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originally posted by: fatkid
a reply to: SoulSurfer
The problem is that your quote isn't from the Quran it is from an alternate source
originally posted by: fatkid
a reply to: SoulSurfer
I will research that don't worry,
I will also search "paganism in Christianity"
But I will have the sturdiness to know they have nothing to do with the origins of what is written in the Christian book, at least on the surface - this thread isn't a deep dive, just because the Christian holidays are all pagan doesn't mean God is a pagan God. (Not saying that is a good or bad thing)
originally posted by: fatkid
a reply to: SoulSurfer
I hear you man, you wouldn't know you were the giant if there were nothing but giants left.
originally posted by: fatkid
a reply to: SoulSurfer
So your video says that America is a tool of the Mason's and that they are trying to change the bible (KJV) in to the new bible version to help move that goal forward.
But there are a lot of people who think that the KJV was edited by Sir Francis Bacon and he was a mason.....
But (like most videos of that nature) makes 4-10 claims at the beginning of the video, with out any evidence, and then bases the rest of the claims in the video off of the first couple that were never founded
"Capstone/cornerstone" are the same stone, we aren't talking about 21st century buildings, we are taking about Roman arches.
a reply to: Seede TLDR: you are making stuff up. GEN 1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Source: Torah, I searched really hard and I also found it in the bible. The Quran states that "Allah created the heavens and the earth, and all that is between them, in six days" (7:54)
originally posted by: fatkid
It is very simple so I don't want to give a long explanation where it isn't needed.
Abraham is the key to understanding it.
He is known as the patriarch of the Jewish people through Isaac, the son born to him and Sarah in their old age and Abraham is also known as the patriarch of Islam through his son Ishmael.
The God of Abraham is Allah / YHWH / YHVH
The difference is only in the languages that the different followers of God use in their own native tongues.
The words in the Bible and Quran aren't that different.
This isn't a debate about Jesus being the son of God or Muhammad being the last prophet.
The GOD of Islam, Christianity, and Judaism is the same being.
Christians worship the God of Abraham.
Jews worship the God of Abraham.
Muslims worship the God of Abraham.
You all worship the same being, you just apply it in slightly different methods.
The discussion of Jesus being God has nothing to do with the God that Abraham worshiped.
Jews don't believe Jesus is the son of God either.
The Torah the Bible and the Quran all start with creation, the fall of man, and a flood and end with Jesus (yes Jesus) returning to earth to destroy Satan.
Peace.
yes i do.
originally posted by: SoulSurfer
originally posted by: fatkid
a reply to: SoulSurfer
I will research that don't worry,
I will also search "paganism in Christianity"
But I will have the sturdiness to know they have nothing to do with the origins of what is written in the Christian book, at least on the surface - this thread isn't a deep dive, just because the Christian holidays are all pagan doesn't mean God is a pagan God. (Not saying that is a good or bad thing)
Now we are on a decent page. I will say this also, the real Christian history was obscured because there is a conspiracy against Christianity. There is a reason why Christianity mostly hold on to the King James Bible.
These two documentaries opened my eyes to the real history behind it all. To me it is hands down the best documentaries out there. It changed my views on how I saw Christianity. many people have been lied to about many things especially the crusades.
Alot of information going around the internet about the illuminati are also exagerated and not true. The real illuminati are the Jesuit order. The history behind the two organizations is also detailed within the documenytary of "Know your enemy". However, they merged with freemasonry at the top levels. So its technically all freemasonry now. With the exception of the 9 unknown men, the seven and "Ain Soph Aur" which is the lower heirachy of Lucifer. Who stands at the capstone as the all seeing eye.
Sorry for being defensive. I was deceived once until I found the truth within Yeshua. But I also found other truths (which I wont mention here) because it takes a turn towards the Paranormal. And those experiences are impossible to prove. So I can only deal with the facts as a way to convey the message, but also leave out my own personal experiences.
It took me months to verify the information in those documentaries as factual. (I don't blindly believe, I do the research to verify if the information is true.)
I just hope I pointed you to the right direction. But I also feel like warning you. The greater truth... is bitter. So be ready for alot of bad news if you take this route of knowledge. However the Good news is Yeshua.
Bad news, WE are the fallen Elohim. Humanity as a whole. But if you want to know why I will tell you here. But be ready for extremely upsetting news.