Hacked WADA medical records show Medal Winning Olympic Athletes took Banned substances.

originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: maddy21
Seems like Everyone was involved in this mess together, not only Russia.

Ah, but they were not. Russia had a programme of state supported doping.

So claims the people who are dubious themselves.....

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: maddy21

Bradwig?

*swears vigorously*

You have got to be kidding me?

No, the poster was not kidding but was being disingenuous. Bradley Wiggins takes medication for asthma - he has a history of asthma and his medication comes under therapeutic use. There is no shame in that unless people think asthmatics shouldn't be allowed to perform.

Just open the Olympics up to all drugs of every kind. It ceased to be "sport" long ago when the entertainment industry took it over to sell advertising just like the superbowl and the rest of professional sports. The Olympians are professional athletes sponsored just like the pros.

Capitalism.....If it's going to be a freak show....make it a good one!!

originally posted by: maddy21
lol, funny how all the athletes get performance enhancing drugs for "medical reasons". Cmon now, you people seriously believe that excuse ?

Not all the drugs on the banned list are performance enhancers. That and many of the ones that do improve performance are taken in doses much higher than the amounts used for medical treatments. These tests would show the athletes on their prescription levels.

originally posted by: maddy21
lol, funny how all the athletes get performance enhancing drugs for "medical reasons". Cmon now, you people seriously believe that excuse ?

Only if you really believe that typical OTC allergy med can actually make you run faster.

Here's a hint ... it won't, not at typical dosage levels anyhow, but the tests are sensitive enough to pick it up in that amount anyhow.

IMO, this hack is an abortive one:

1. The drugs are "therapeutic" (in other words, they don't give a direct impact on the result, they rather help with personal medical issues).

Would the athletes show the same results without these drugs? Apparently, no, because of the injuries and illnesses.

But could ANY other athlete (with a medical issue) use this opportunity in case of necessity? Presumably, yes.

So, is there any conspiracy or bribery or anything like that? Seemingly, no.

2. Only few percent of athletes (or even less, depending on what you take for 100) are using this WADA's approval.

So, whether large number of these exceptions (exemptions) is proved? Obviously, no.

originally posted by: hutch622
a reply to: Chadwickus

We Aussies dont cheat , well maybe at tax time .

There are 7 athletes from Australia in the list at the moment (3 athletes in the 3rd part and 4 athletes in the freshly published 5th part of the batch). Nevertheless, I'm not saying they are cheaters, I'm not a medical specialist anyway, my general opinion is posted above.

I dont see why people care so much, it's all for entertainment and i want to be entertained. Let athletes be there best, supplements or not.

originally posted by: maddy21
So claims the people who are dubious themselves.....

Why are they dubious. Even the Russians accepted the outcome.

I saw this probably a month ago. I looked at the files of the few US ladies and did not see anything as being "hidden" or doping.

originally posted by: ketsuko
Only if you really believe that typical OTC allergy med can actually make you run faster.

Here's a hint ... it won't, not at typical dosage levels anyhow, but the tests are sensitive enough to pick it up in that amount anyhow.

I only checked a couple Canadians, but it is rather interesting that they were prescribed, and approved, a medication that is used to relieve a condition that is commonly caused by hormonal fluctuations.

a reply to: Chadwickus

This list is of people who have exemptions for genuine medical reasons, not dopers.

"Genuine Exemptions".

Like I said, politics.

originally posted by: intrptr
Like I said, politics.

No it's not. If you have a legitimate reason for medicine, then you have a legitimate reason for medicine. That is taken into account when testing, alongside medical reasoning etc. On the other hand the catalogue of state supported doping in Russia is and was deceitful and covered up. Oh, except they were found out.

The Russian authorities have politicised sport in Russia by corrupt involvement in doping.

a reply to: paraphi

I know what the official statements say. Some are banned and some are exempt.

They have 'notes from their doctor'.

a reply to: uncommitted

Thank goodness!

That would have rocked me right off my perch!

originally posted by: intrptr
They have 'notes from their doctor'.

So? There's a difference between a doctor and corrupt Russian official who is seeking to get away with doping.

originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: intrptr
They have 'notes from their doctor'.

So? There's a difference between a doctor and corrupt Russian official who is seeking to get away with doping.

That 'corrupt official bulls*** is from Sochi, not the current games. More deflection.

originally posted by: intrptr
That 'corrupt official bulls*** is from Sochi, not the current games. More deflection.

Not it's not, and you know it. The Russian authorities were caught in a process of doping. This was evidenced in more than one report. The Russian authorities finally conceded it was the case.

a reply to: paraphi

The Russian authorities were caught in a process of doping. This was evidenced in more than one report. The Russian authorities finally conceded it was the case.

Circumvention. Back to, what about all the others listed in the OP?? Oh, lol, they are "exempted" from testing positive for 'dope'.

Not going round in circles with you here anymore. It just drags the thread down.

a reply to: intrptr

I think you compared the OP to Russian athletics doping and corruption, in a way to say "well, there you go, everyone's corrupt". Now that has been shown to be an incorrect comparison I'll be glad to return to the OP as point has been made that (1) the hacked athletes medical records do not show doping, and (2) The Russian authorities were involved in a corrupt programme of mass doping and cover-up.