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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: NotTooHappy
They had Bush in for 8 years, after Bush had four years after Reagan had 8 years? How'd that work out for the US becoming a theocracy?
Meanwhile, did Western Liberal Value societies emerge from xtian societies or was it xlim societies?
What does Necon/Neolib foreign policy have to do with the domestic SJWFRONT being completely obsessed with defending the darkest and most ruthless aspects of Islam on the cultural front?
And why in thread after thread do you talk to me as if I'm some kind of Republican?
Wrong with WHAT? There are scores of Sharia Law folks up in Dearborn Michigan right now. And the more they stay couped up in their own little world deliberately away from everyone else, and the more more keep coming in from Sharia and into Sharia, along with all of the other trends, the more of an issue that's going to be, and no matter how bad it gets even like over in the EU, the liberals are all hell bent on protecting and nurturing them and all that no matter even if a women & children rape epidemic starts to become apparent. The writing is all on all the walls now.
24:2
Sahih International translation
2. The [unmarried] woman or [unmarried] man found guilty of sexual intercourse - lash each one of them with a hundred lashes, and do not be taken by pity for them in the religion of Allah , if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a group of the believers witness their punishment.
Muhsin Khan translation
2. The woman and the man guilty of illegal sexual intercourse, flog each of them with a hundred stripes. Let not pity withhold you in their case, in a punishment prescribed by Allah, if you believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a party of the believers witness their punishment. (This punishment is for unmarried persons guilty of the above crime but if married persons commit it, the punishment is to stone them to death, according to Allah's Law).
Pickthall translation
2. The adulterer and the adulteress, scourge ye each one of them (with) a hundred stripes. And let not pity for the twain withhold you from obedience to Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a party of believers witness their punishment.
Yusuf Ali translation
2. The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication,- flog each of them with a hundred stripes: Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day: and let a party of the Believers witness their punishment.
Shakir translation
2. (As for) the fornicatress and the fornicator, flog each of them, (giving) a hundred stripes, and let not pity for them detain you in the matter of obedience to Allah, if you believe in Allah and the last day, and let a party of believers witness their chastisement.
Dr. Ghali translation
2. The female fornicater and the male fornicator, (The Arabic Zaniyah and Zan refer to those who commit either fornication or adultery. By a comparison of this verse to other and to Hadiths., it is it is understood that this verse refers to fornicators, i.e., unmarried people committing illegal sexual intercourse) then lash each one of them a hundred lashes, and let not compassion for them (both) take (hold of) you in the religion of Allah, in case you believe in Allah and the Last Day; and let a section of the believers witness their (The torment of the two of them) torment.
And how anyone can rationalize any of it, is beyond me. But I make it a point not to go after peoples faith, just the absurd and damaging cultural norms that come with them.
originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: ErrorErrorError
Please do: take an example link, then follow their link to the source that made their headline, and show how the headline was wrong. If any of this data is wrong I want the record corrected. SERIOUSLY!
originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: introvert
Not all of those hyperlinks go to the blog.
I had clicked thru quite a few of the posts and each time they were BBC / PEW / national media type polls / articles about polls.
I decided the blog authors post titles for the polls / articles of the polls made for a nice clean presentation so I ran with it. The view of the blogger should be irrelevant assuming the posts are the studies, and the studies are scientific.
And its saved from spending DAYS on the thing, so sue me. I dont get paid for this crap in fact instead I go thru great personal, lasting sacrifice whenever I dig in as "IIB" for stretches like this.
I love how the attitude around here by the 'liberal' crowd is "OMG OMG that's infowars / etc I wont even open it or consider its contents no matter what is in it because I know they don't like my viewpoint", and then set about trying to make that the focus of the thread. If you're only willing to entertain the ideas of your own, and are unwilling to even look at the outsiders views, that's the stuff of CULTS.
If there is specific data that isn't scientific then please do make it clear, otherwise if we can focus on the actual issue that's how it should be.
originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
muslimstatistics.wordpress.com...
Here goes one of those wretched BLOG POSTS I just followed thru randomly, which includes a article by Dispatch International, which according to wikipedia they are slanted and often labeled "racists". Knowing how liberals love to racist label anyone critical of what they cherish, no surprise there. BUT DI's DEAL IS BESIDES THE POINT.
But what is the article about, oh poll data from "WZB Berlin Social Science Center", who going by Wikipedia can you criticize them??
What was the poll?
Do you think sharia is more important to you than the laws of the country you live? (66%)
Do you mean that there is only one legitimate interpretation of the Koran that should apply to all Muslims? (75%)
Are you saying that Muslims should return to their “Islamic roots”? (60%)
The name of the blog post: "Most European Muslims want sharia"
Now going by that title, and the unbiased poll results, is that title as I used it inaccurate???
Now, also int he blog post was some added perspective from the blogger. The blogger claims:
What exactly is included in Sharia law:
Beheadings
Stonings
Hangings
Crucifixions
Honor killings
Genocide
Burning infidels alive
Supremacy/global domination
Warfare/conquest
Beatings
Torture
Limb amputations
Genital mutilation
Death to apostates
Forced conversion
Slavery
Sex slavery and rape
Misogyny/sexism
Women enslavement
Wife beating
Child marriage/rape
Brutality against homosexuals
Censorship
Dictatorship
Bigotry and hatred
Robbery and pillage
Extortion of nonbelievers
Persecution and/or death for blasphemy/atheism
Animal cruelty
Prohibition of music/singing
Destruction of pre-Islamic antiquities
Etc., ad nauseam
Now is that inaccurate?
originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
An entire thread basically stating all Muslims are terrorists and your sole source is muslimstatistics.wordpress.com? Wordpress blogging site? Is this your blog?
You guys know that if Muslims around the world really wanted to install Sharia Law and kill you because you're an infidel they would have already done it since there are almost 2 billion Muslims on this planet.
My opinion, stop letting fear and hate rule your life.