Trump campaign admits Obama born in the USA.

Perhaps the idea that a Presidential candidate is either foolish enough or ignorant enough to pimp for a wild, debunked theory for 5 years is an important point to consider?

How can the judgement of someone like that be trusted? Particularly when they gave interview after interview a few years ago noting what a wonderful President Hillary Clinton would make.

a reply to: Gryphon66

A lot of political statements made in public are part of a charade. Bashar al Assad said in his big interview that he didn't care who was elected President and didn't pay attention to what they said. The only important thing was what they did once in office.

That has become a real problem for the electorate. Statements made during the election are thrown out once in office. During Obama's first campaign for the presidency he railed against NAFTA and so alarmed the Canadian government that emissaries had to be dispatched to the Canadian embassy or the Chicago consular offices with the message, "Don't pay attention to the NAFTA stuff. It's just for local consumption." This was all denied, of course.

Story here:

www.factcheck.org...

Donald Trump has shown signs of going down a similar road on NAFTA.

Americans don't like what they are being offered as presidential timber this time around, but they will have to make a shrewd choice as to the lesser of two evils. Do they want stability and experience along with the same old sharp practices and featherbedding, or do they want to take a fling on an erratic know nothing savvy enough to hijack the Republican Party, who has a remarkable record of gaming the system for personal enrichment.

It's Solomon time in the voting booth. Hopefully the debates will clarify matters and make choosing easier.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Doctor Smith
Is this the best the DNC and media can do? What a joke. This is the equivalent of Trump jay walking. Is it against the law to not believe everything you're told? Can the FBI recommend Trump be prosecuted?

This is a desperate attempt to fool the fools into believing "Trump's just as bad as the DNC and Hillary".

Trump made an announcement. Are you saying that the DNC and the media made him do it?

My respect for the man actually inched up a micron today. It's hard for someone like DJT to admit they were mistaken and foolish.

I think it's a non issue. Whether or not Trump now believes Obama was born in the USA. The media is using it to spin as an actual scandal or something.

a reply to: ipsedixit

Do they want stability and experience along with the same old sharp practices and featherbedding, or do they want to take a fling on an erratic know nothing savvy enough to hijack the Republican Party, who has a remarkable record of gaming the system for personal enrichment.

Right. Clinton and stability. What a joke.



And, as though Trump is the one taking millions in bribes for pay for play.

FOLLOW THE MONEY (DONOR ANALYSIS):

DNC are incapable of even protecting credit card data from donors.

DNC May Face Hefty Fines for Failing to Protect Donors’ Credit Card Data

I decided to get to the bottom of this. And as expected Trump was mostly right. Trump probably was emailed by one of Hillary's supporters who came up with the birther story. Who could blame anyone for being suspicious about Obama anyway. But of course Trump gets all the blame by MSM.

Hillary's email friend Blumenthal accused of spreading birther smear in 2008 after Clinton campaign admits volunteer did too Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk... er-did-too.html#ixzz4KYeWwFkT Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

a reply to: Doctor Smith

So Trump was knowingly pushing Hillary's propaganda for years? By definition, wouldn't that make him a "Hillary shill"?

a reply to: enlightenedservant

He's a Hillary shill AND he ran interference for Obama. How? By demanding to see his long form birth certificate at a crucial time -- which diverted people's attention away from the truth: In late 2010, Obama's short form birth certificate was proven to be fraudulent and Factcheck.org was implicated in that fraud.

originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: Doctor Smith

So Trump was knowingly pushing Hillary's propaganda for years? By definition, wouldn't that make him a "Hillary shill"?

No. It would make Trump an out of the box thinker that doesn't just go along with the herd. And it would make Hillary even more of a social path. As she is trying to spin it as Trumps creation. When in fact it was her supporters that came up with it. And nobody but Obama's mother knows for sure where little Barrack was born anyway. Lot's of other people were trying to find out.

a reply to: Doctor Smith

And nobody but Obama's mother knows for sure where little Barrack was born anyway.

You don't believe Trump? He lying about that "period!"

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Doctor Smith

And nobody but Obama's mother knows for sure where little Barrack was born anyway.

You don't believe Trump? He lying about that "period!"

I believe Trump is satisfied that Obama was probably born in America. I haven't really looked into it to have an opinion.

a reply to: Doctor Smith

I believe Trump is satisfied that Obama was probably born in America.

Not probably. He was quite unequivocal about it.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: cavtrooper7

WHAT IS the deciding factor here is HOW LONG exactly ,your AUGUST ,honors did she take to deny the fact?

Deny what fact, exactly?

Doyle: Yeah, Hillary made the decision immediately to let that person go. We let that person go. And it was so, beyond the pale, Wolf, and so not worthy of the kind of campaign that certainly Hillary wanted to run.

www.breitbart.com...

Just to be clear, she had the person fired only after the backlash from the picture.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: cavtrooper7

WHAT IS the deciding factor here is HOW LONG exactly ,your AUGUST ,honors did she take to deny the fact?

Deny what fact, exactly?

Doyle: Yeah, Hillary made the decision immediately to let that person go. We let that person go. And it was so, beyond the pale, Wolf, and so not worthy of the kind of campaign that certainly Hillary wanted to run.

www.breitbart.com...

Just to be clear, she had the person fired only after the backlash from the picture.

What picture?

originally posted by: Phage

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: cavtrooper7

WHAT IS the deciding factor here is HOW LONG exactly ,your AUGUST ,honors did she take to deny the fact?

Deny what fact, exactly?

Doyle: Yeah, Hillary made the decision immediately to let that person go. We let that person go. And it was so, beyond the pale, Wolf, and so not worthy of the kind of campaign that certainly Hillary wanted to run.

www.breitbart.com...

Just to be clear, she had the person fired only after the backlash from the picture.

What picture?

Obama in Kenyan dress.

a reply to: UKTruth
Where was that mentioned? I must have missed it.

The fact is, it was Bill Clinton who caused the most stir with his comment from August 4, 2008:

"I never was mad at Sen. Obama," the former president said. "I think everybody's got a right to run for president who qualifies under the Constitution."

IN CONTEXT of the 'birther' controversy -- which was gaining a lot of traction, in August 2008 -- Hillary supporters believed Bill Clinton was referring to Obama's citizenship. We all knew he wasn't concerned that Obama was not 35 years old.

It started with Hillary supporters, but the Hillary campaign was not as innocent as they pretend to be.


ETA: And, the Obama campaign blamed Hillary for circulating the photo of him in traditional Kenyan dress and helping fuel the 'birther' rumors.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: UKTruth
Where was that mentioned? I must have missed it.

www.theguardian.com...

Actually, I was wrong, the fired staffer sent out an email pushing the birther theory. It was an internal email in the campaign and they were fired when it went public. (note: a bit like the DNCleaks situation where being caught caused the resignations, not the material itself)

The "Kenyan dress" email was later - which begs the question as to why Clinton staffers were still on this line of thinking 3 months after the previous staffer was fired.

a reply to: UKTruth

The "Kenyan dress" email was later - which begs the question as to why Clinton staffers were still on this line of thinking 3 months after the previous staffer was fired.

Wearing "Kenyan dress" is a birther thing? According to whom?

I don't how Drudge got the picture but if it was actually from the Clinton campaign it would seem to be more along the lines of that "otherness" thing rather than the birther nonsense. But I don't see how donning traditional dress on a visit implies much of anything.

Bromance?
timedotcom.files.wordpress.com...

a reply to: Phage

You can dig around for yourself, but that photo was featured, over & over, in stories that theorized that Obama was born in Kenya and is a Muslim.

BTW, I do not endorse those theories.


ETA: The line that people were put off by Obama's 'Otherness' was laughable then and still is to me. He wanted people to believe there was some 'Otherness' about him. But I always knew he was the same-old, same-old. Nothing 'Otherly' about him.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: UKTruth

The "Kenyan dress" email was later - which begs the question as to why Clinton staffers were still on this line of thinking 3 months after the previous staffer was fired.

Wearing "Kenyan dress" is a birther thing? According to whom?

I don't know who sent the picture to Drudge but if it was actually from the Clinton campaign it would seem to be more along the lines of that "otherness" thing rather than the birther nonsense. But I don't see how donning traditional dress on a visit implies much of anything.

That photo was probably one of the biggest stories in the 2008 election specifically relating to the religious background of Obama and his Kenyan roots. It fuelled the questions about Obama and is still used to this day in birther arguments. It certainly upset the Obama campaign to the point where they released a statement about Clinton's dirty tricks.