Is Trump actually the Elite’s Candidate?

originally posted by: stinkelbaum
a reply to: sirlancelot

I get confused as to why a candidate whose agenda is to "put america first" is perceived as the guy that will start a nuclear war?

he is the only guy to come out and say he wants to use them, linky.

CM: “Can you tell the Middle East we’re not using nuclear weapons?”
DT: “I would never say that. I would never take any of my cards off the table.”
CM: “How about Europe? We won’t use in Europe?”
DT: “I’m not going to take it off the table for anybody.”
CM: “You’re going to use it in Europe?”
DT: “No! I don’t think so. But…”

Obama and Hillary's idea of foreign policy is to tell our enemies what we will or won't do. Any general would say it is absurb to project what you would or wouldn't do.

Trump stating this is basically saying I don't need to show my hand of all the options to my avail!

Hypothetically is North Korea or Iran are determined to have Nukes that can take out the US or even our allies wouldn't it be stupid to take us using Nukes off the table?

a reply to: Willtell

Little weird hitting the same subject....IT IS a possiblilty.
If he is, it will have the same effect as if Hillary or Obama was in office after the election,CIVIL war might be required to get the oligarchs out.

The answer is no. I know it's hard to have any substance against Trump given all the leaks coming in about your savior but this is the worst I've seen yet. Good luck on this thread that should prob be in the LOL forum.

originally posted by: sirlancelot

originally posted by: Willtell
Trump is truly a successful deceiver judging by the blind trust in him.


He clearly has something to hide in his taxes but they forget that


You are being decieved

He is a typical lying politician who successfully decievs others.

Trump is so sinister because he does evil and his followers deceive themselves by defending the indefensible.


They buy into his self-deception better than he does almost

Maybe but anyone will a brain know Hillary already is and has been a deceiver x 3!

True but we know Hillary so well.

Trump is an unknown peril

You’re not going to get me defending Hillary


This is truly a traumatic period for the American people


I don't see much beyond 2020

originally posted by: Willtell

originally posted by: sirlancelot

originally posted by: Willtell
Trump is truly a successful deceiver judging by the blind trust in him.


He clearly has something to hide in his taxes but they forget that


You are being decieved

He is a typical lying politician who successfully decievs others.

Trump is so sinister because he does evil and his followers deceive themselves by defending the indefensible.


They buy into his self-deception better than he does almost

Maybe but anyone will a brain know Hillary already is and has been a deceiver x 3!

True but we know Hillary so well.

Trump is an unknown peril

You’re not going to get me defending Hillary


This is truly a traumatic period for the American people


I don't see much beyond 2020

Agreed both are scary. One we know will be bad with no doubt and the other has less of a track record and is off his rocker sometimes but as of late he is being groomed better and if Trump wins we may still be screwed but atleast their is hope unlike a vote for Hillary.

originally posted by: Willtell
Trump is truly a successful deceiver judging by the blind trust in him.


He clearly has something to hide in his taxes but they forget that


You are being decieved

He is a typical lying politician who successfully decievs others.

Trump is so sinister because he does evil and his followers deceive themselves by defending the indefensible.


They buy into his self-deception better than he does almost

He probably doesn't pay as much taxes as you would like him to pay.

Just like any other billionaire.

It's not against any law that he doesn't release them or what % he pays.

So why the interest? Would that interfere with his duties as potus as much as health or past behavior?

It couldn't be more crystal clear who to vote in this election... It's good vs evil. Light vs darkness. Trump stands for common sense which America seems to be lacking a lot of lately. American's are being so deceived by these cartels/cultists that want to maintain their grip on power forever. Basically all of them besides Trump are sell out Satan worshipers.

In the long run, it won't matter imo.

TPTB seem to have a well established track record of either controlling or marginalizing those not directly in their pocket anyway. And it's not like Trump is above reproach or lacks levers by which to be influenced. Quite the contrary.

Peace.

I have a friend who was interning in DC about six months ago. According to him, word going around in political circles at that time was that Hilary was going to back out, or be forced to drop out, leaving Trump the victor. At the time I took it with a grain of salt. Now seeing how things are progressing, I'm questioning whether or not he had more intel than he led on. Interesting, anyway.

But yeah, like AceWombat said, in the grand scheme of things it really doesn't make a difference.

Just food for thought.

a reply to: JimNasium

When You boast that You have donated "millions" to all sorts of politicians pretty much nails the coffin.

Unless of course you are too stupid to put 2 and 2 together ..... after all he is not part of the establishment because he has a big mouth and is quite outspoken...so how could he be one of them !!!...

a reply to: JimNasium

Yeah.

The guy who bucked the system to get filthy rich is going to fix all those laws that continue to make him rich.

Ok.

If anyone believes that, I have a bridge they might be interested in.

originally posted by: FaunaOrFlora
a reply to: JimNasium

Yeah.

The guy who bucked the system to get filthy rich is going to fix all those laws that continue to make him rich.

Ok.

If anyone believes that, I have a bridge they might be interested in.

Your post deserves to be a thread.
Please create one and I'll bring popcorn.
It Would be hilarious to see how Trump's fanboys would spin that one.
I can't believe there are people who think that Trump is anti elite. Lol. His hairpiece alone is worth one years rent

a reply to: sirlancelot

The DPRK can already strike the US Mainland with their missiles.

The US doesn't have anything to fear about that though unless they decide to attack North Korea, their nuclear weapons are a purely defensive measure.

originally posted by: Willtell



You are being decieved

You mean like how Hillary has deceived people her entire political career?

If he was their shill, they wouldn't have tried so hard (and continue to do so) to oust him every step of the way.

Now, you could say they were using reverse psychology, but I think that's just giving them WAY too much credit here. (personally). Not saying they aren't sneaky, just that it was also risky.

Hillary is their gal. You can hear it in every speech. No doubt, they still feel the only way HRC can lose, is if her health doesn't hold up. Trump has a tough road in the Electoral College. It's stacked against him right out of the gate. Not impossible, but it will REALLY require a pretty unprecedented turnout for the vote.

Then, if close, chances are they'll just use their Diebold buddies to rig it anyhow....so the ONLY real chance of defeating her is if he wins over her by more than a 5 percent margin in states he carries. (as it is harder to rig a non-close election believably...)

The DPRK can already strike the US Mainland with their missiles. The US doesn't have anything to fear about that though unless they decide to attack North Korea, their nuclear weapons are a purely defensive measure.

The US has absolutely zero fear of NK missiles. The BMDS can easily knock out the amount of missiles NK could field. Not to mention that it would simply be mindless suicide with our counter-attack. (which wouldn't even be nuclear...we'd simply carpet bomb them to dwelling in their bunkers for a decade).... A bigger fear would be smuggled dirty bombs which COULD actually get through our defenses. But again, suicidal. Un may be insane, but he's not an idiot.

If I was a member of an elite club that wanted a certain person as leader of the nation, how would I go about it? How could I manipulate the public majority into voluntarily voting for my person over other candidates?

I would ensure that the other candidates spout (what is in the elite's view) ridiculous 'extreme' right and left politics. This will make my person's politics (and that of the elite) seem quite moderate in comparison. Cue Bernie and Trump.

The mistake the elite have made is that what they consider is extreme, is not really extreme to us, and some of it seems quite fair. They think that socialism is no less than horrific, and they assume the rest of us think so too. They think that the public will recoil in absolute disgust at a proposition of booting immigrants out willy-nilly and keeping them out, and would never vote for a candidate with such racist politics. Of the three candidates standing, socialist Bernie, racist/sexist/everything-ist Trump, and 'Goldilocks' Hillary, she would appear to be the proverbial 'rose between these two thorns'.

To the elite's shock and utter horror, Bernie was very VERY popular and had excellent turnouts on his campaign tour. He became a serious threat so they made him not only stand down, but also made him speak words of support for HC.

Another shock for them is the support for Trump. Trump said he wants her to get well, he wants her in the race. That's because this whole election charade is all about getting HC in the Whitehouse and has been all along. He doesn't want to be president, never did. He wants HC in the Whitehouse same as his elite chums do and is merely doing this job for them (and himself) to achieve that end. If this isn't true then why is he not making the absolute most of HC's deteriorating health? Where are the shocking statements of sexism and mocking ridicule that have been typical of him and that we were all expecting? Why has he suddenly reverted to being 'normal'? It's because the public have been actually listening to him these past months, that's obvious due to his popularity, and so the elite don't want him publicly hammering her health because it would/could undermine public confidence in her. They can't make the public suddenly stop listening to him, but they can make him suddenly tone it down a few hundred shades. So suddenly, I thought i'd gone deaf.

So USA peeps, HC is your next president. It was planned yonks ago. The only thing not in the plan is HC's wiring shorting out like it has.

But they'll make certain there's a plan in place for such an event come the next 'election' charade.