Hillary Clinton Dead??? Reported by news anchors on NYC WABC-7 TV....

a reply to: Vasa Croe

There seem to be no pictures of her going in anywhere
after she was heaved into that van.

Thoughts and some things people have mentioned:

Her stiffness when they tried to move her forward,
and her jerking indicate she was having a seizure.

Following a seizure, she may not have been able to
walk, requiring a gurney to roll her into a recovery
area, or treatment facility.

Since her campaign claims she was taken to the Apt.
of Chelsea, is there a back door that would facilitate
such a move?

And one other important thing - in the infamous
video Hillary Clinton’s traveling press secretary Nick Merrill
is seen right behind her as she is heaved into the van.

He is not shocked, nor concerned....he stands off to the
left till she is nearly heaved in, then is on his phone
as she is finally heaved into the van...following still
close behind but nonchalant.

Also, anyone else notice the Secret Service man
run his hands along the cement poles?
Looking for what, body fluids?

a reply to: burntheships


The way "Hillary" was standing prone without moving and then a jerky, stumbling fall into the van, reminded me of how a robot would work if it had malfunctioned in some way.

Maybe some quick repairs and a fluid change was given to this Android at the Top Secret apartment/facility? "It" looked so much younger and alive after that brief pit stop. If it wasn't a real person, that's exactly how you'd expect the handlers to act.

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
a reply to: Vasa Croe

I think it's real. Some differences between her and the woman who cane out, and looked so healthy...and had virtually no security around her -

1. Her fingers are a different length.

The first pic is of Hillary. Note that the forefinger and ring finger are not the same length. The second picture is the woman claiming to be her after the collapse. Note the forefinger and ring finger are the same length.

2. Her wedding ring is different. Same pics. Zoom in. The ring is narrower than before. Who changes that??

3. Her teeth are different.

On the right, check the left front tooth on both pics. One shows a curve, as if chipped, and the other does not.

Add to all of this, the woman in the photo op is thinner, and looks younger. She carries her purse on the opposite side. Her hair is a little different. She looks younger. A known double for Hillary posted this to Twitter -

The building is claimed to have been a hospital in the past.

Then, there are two instances of ABC news reporting that she was dead. One, captured and posted before vanishing from their page -

...and one on television, quickly silenced -

Faulty news feeds, I could believe, maybe. Add in the long months of obviously serious health issues, the changes in finger length, weight, teeth, hair, wedding rings, and purse side, and the comment from the double, and it becomes impossible to ignore.

The video of her collapse, alone, is pretty serious. Watching a slow motion copy, you can see that she seems barely, if at all, conscious, while propped up on the bollard, and held erect by the woman to her left. Being pulled into the van, her feet are literally dragging, with the toes pointed backwards. She seems, at best, unconscious at that time. Then, the reports, and the obvious double?

I think she died, and they are trying to cover it up.

The shape of the pinky is also different, in case no one else noticed. Hillary's is rounded, as the other is pointed. The cheekbones are a dead giveaway. The lookalike has very prominent and protruding cheek bones, as Hillary's are nice and subtle. The glasses are hiding the different shaped eyes, and partially concealing the different eyebrows. I don't get weirded out a lot, but I can honestly say I am.

originally posted by: imthegoat
The shape of the pinky is also different, in case no one else noticed. Hillary's is rounded, as the other is pointed. The cheekbones are a dead giveaway. The lookalike has very prominent and protruding cheek bones, as Hillary's are nice and subtle. The glasses are hiding the different shaped eyes, and partially concealing the different eyebrows. I don't get weirded out a lot, but I can honestly say I am.

Yes, and the wrinkles above her eyes are different as well. The double has a sort of v-shaped set, while HC's are more parallel. Very freaky!

There is more, too. Now, they are claiming that several of her staff are, or have been, sick, from some bug, claiming it's what caused her illness. Before, we were told she wasn't contagious, but clearly that doesn't fit with this latest claim. Seems they are too desperate to even get a lie straight. Weirder still is this -


link to source

They claim a "dry, hacking cough" is what she had (which seems accurate), then claim that is characteristic for pneumonia. That is not the case!! According to webmd, a cough associated with pneumonia is as follows:

Cough. You will likely cough up mucus (sputum) from your lungs. Mucus may be rusty or green or tinged with blood.

Very accurate. Not dry and hacking, though! Pneumonia is, f course, contagious, yet someone claiming to be Hillary was in close proximity to a small child, a stranger, while too sick to even make campaign appearances?

"Weirded out", indeed! I knew this would be an interesting election, but I didn't imagine this! Her dying, maybe, but them covering it up?? Too weird for words!

Supposedly, she's reappearing on Thursday. Don't think I'll hold my breath!

I was checking something and saw this:

Political Decoys

A bit of public background info.

a reply to: Vasa Croe

I am curious where is the footage of her prior to the incident ?

originally posted by: SentientCentenarian
Pneumonia doesn't 'go around' - and it's not like she spends much time with the staff in her campaign office, she's on the road all the time. I've seen no evidence that anyone else in her entourage has had coughing fits, or weird head movements, or inability to stand up, or even the sniffles, although there may be mass exoduses now.

Even if pneumonia may be contagious, you'd have to have a massively compromised immune system - maybe in a nursing home where people are bedridden all the time or a hospital ward, but not in the wide open with mostly young people.

Betcha all those fundraisers will be well attended now... /s/

Ah, but according to the info released now, it does -

Pneumonia Bug That Struck Hillary Clinton Also Seriously Sickened Several Members of Her Staff

They can't have it both ways. At this point, if they claim that was her, then they have to admit she willingly exposed a child to an infectious disease.

originally posted by: onehuman
Does anyone find it strange with all the news this incident has had about this and the fainting spell, there aren't videos or pictures of her arriving at Chelsea's? I would think there had to be some paparazzi hanging around there for a just in case moment concerning Chelsea if anything.

I mean if that van rolled up and all the people in it and the SS accompanying it all the sudden appeared on the street out of nowhere, seems there should be some type of photo or video captured of it don't you think?

That would be big bucks for a paparazzi or anyone really to get footage of that arrival. I wouldn't think that as ill as she seemed to appear, (if there were truly the case) she would have just bounced out of the van with a smile and enter the building do you?

Maybe it's just me, but I find this a bit odd all considered.

Yes! The place is apparently right next door to some sort of restaurant or something of the sort, as well, and we can see people in the video, sitting there, looking at what's happening. Yet she could show up, and no one at all would get a picture, or video? Perhaps they did, and it was confiscated, and the people threatened. I know, if I was someplace, and a large group like that showed up, I'd be recording, just because!

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes

originally posted by: imthegoat
The shape of the pinky is also different, in case no one else noticed. Hillary's is rounded, as the other is pointed. The cheekbones are a dead giveaway. The lookalike has very prominent and protruding cheek bones, as Hillary's are nice and subtle. The glasses are hiding the different shaped eyes, and partially concealing the different eyebrows. I don't get weirded out a lot, but I can honestly say I am.

Yes, and the wrinkles above her eyes are different as well. The double has a sort of v-shaped set, while HC's are more parallel. Very freaky!

There is more, too. Now, they are claiming that several of her staff are, or have been, sick, from some bug, claiming it's what caused her illness. Before, we were told she wasn't contagious, but clearly that doesn't fit with this latest claim. Seems they are too desperate to even get a lie straight. Weirder still is this -

link to source

They claim a "dry, hacking cough" is what she had (which seems accurate), then claim that is characteristic for pneumonia. That is not the case!! According to webmd, a cough associated with pneumonia is as follows:

Cough. You will likely cough up mucus (sputum) from your lungs. Mucus may be rusty or green or tinged with blood.

Very accurate. Not dry and hacking, though! Pneumonia is, f course, contagious, yet someone claiming to be Hillary was in close proximity to a small child, a stranger, while too sick to even make campaign appearances?

"Weirded out", indeed! I knew this would be an interesting election, but I didn't imagine this! Her dying, maybe, but them covering it up?? Too weird for words!

Supposedly, she's reappearing on Thursday. Don't think I'll hold my breath!

I was actually flipping through MSM channels today and saw that Fox News was reporting that her aides were hospitalized due to whatever "bug" is going around that campaign. Struck me as odd that they're reporting that alongside the pneumonia.

a reply to: Vasa Croe

"I do wonder, as others have, where are all the secret service that were completely surrounding her 90 minutes before? Its as if the person from 90 minutes ago was REALLY important, but this one is not so much....just odd behavior to me"

Ok you have a point there.

Well she's just not telling the truth. In the AC interview he asked if she would release medical records, she says yes , then after that starts saying not really, kind of thing. In other words she isn't going to.

a reply to: carewemust

Lol ok . The android stepped off the curb and it's foot couldn't manage the step

I haven't read the entire thread
So what would be the deal with the body double decoy ?

Do they need her "alive" for a bit longer before faking her death to bring in some other option?

a reply to: DBCowboy

Aren't we all dying?

Seems fake to me. Why suddenly STOP the video right there? If it's real, let's see the ENTIRE news report.

a reply to: Vasa Croe



Seems to me lile they made prerecorded message ready in case she would in fact die.... why?? Simply because they wanted to be able to break the news first...

Disgusting, and even more so because some idiot aired the wrong clip and made me believe that atleast one of the psycopaths was off for good...

They reported her death under orders as a smoke screen to occupy the conspiracy theorists and to undermine the credibility of actually true reports such as the Hillary body double.
She's in bad shape, there have been other secret trips to medical facilities and they're apparently unable to keep this charade up any longer.

originally posted by: burntheships
a reply to: Vasa Croe

There seem to be no pictures of her going in anywhere
after she was heaved into that van.

Thoughts and some things people have mentioned:

Her stiffness when they tried to move her forward,
and her jerking indicate she was having a seizure.

Following a seizure, she may not have been able to
walk, requiring a gurney to roll her into a recovery
area, or treatment facility.

Since her campaign claims she was taken to the Apt.
of Chelsea, is there a back door that would facilitate
such a move?

And one other important thing - in the infamous
video Hillary Clinton’s traveling press secretary Nick Merrill
is seen right behind her as she is heaved into the van.

He is not shocked, nor concerned....he stands off to the
left till she is nearly heaved in, then is on his phone
as she is finally heaved into the van...following still
close behind but nonchalant.

Also, anyone else notice the Secret Service man
run his hands along the cement poles?
Looking for what, body fluids?

The way her team reacted as if collapsing was no big deal is the most telling to me. The fact nobody had her sit down and she was given no bottle of water and basically rendered no aid screams they knew it wasn't heat exhaustion. I don't care who you are, if you have a medical staff on hand and are dehydrated.....they would be feeding you water asap.

You guys are all pretty good sleuths but no one has mentioned one of the most important clues. The Hospital where the WABC website says she died, Montefiore Medical Hospital, is not located in Manhattan. It's actually on the outskirts of the Bronx, near Westchester where Hillary lives (Chappaqua). My guess is that she has specialists there that know her condition and also the hospital is far away enough from Manhattan to avoid the Paparazzi.

Seems peculiar that their news graphic would say this hospital in particular, why not a Manhattan hospital? Personally I think as one person commented "she bought the farm" and never made it to Chealsea's apartment. She probably was on her way to this "Montefiore" hospital in the graphic.

Also in the video of her nearly hitting the ground like a sack of potatoes, she seems to be having that weird involuntary head movement like she did when she had that seizure with those female reporters. The whole thing is just weird. Guess Karma can be a real female dog.

Or maybe this Simpsons episode can explain what's really going on with senator "Clin-Tan".

youtu.be...

(By the way how the heck do you embed a YT video from the phone??)

Peace
Life4M

Could it be an anchor's mistake and the prompter probably read, "We begin with this story about Hillary Clinton's health." Not death.

originally posted by: Rezlooper
Could it be an anchor's mistake and the prompter probably read, "We begin with this story about Hillary Clinton's health." Not death.

No....the station was called and confirmed they said it. There was even an infographic, shown on page 2 of this thread, that said she died.