Iran may have received up to $33.6B in cash, gold payments from US

originally posted by: carewemust
if Trump were president that money would be used to partially modernize infrastructure, build a high-speed rail, modernize airports ....provide jobs. It would never go to terrorist-supporting Iran.

It was never USA money!

So no that money would not have been used!

Wish people would READ. All thats been released is funds frozen in sanctions.

So nothing has come out of US goverment coffers.

originally posted by: carewemust
Why unfreeze the money and give it back to them now? Did Iran threaten to kick our butt? or maybe put our hostages on trial?

Conditions on the nuclear deal. We would give them the money back, then we used it as leverage for other things. Note that the US didn't really have a choice on the nuclear deal either. Either we went along with everyone else and got something, or we kept Iran's money and got nothing.

originally posted by: RAY1990
a reply to: Violater1

It's not American money, I'm of the understanding it's their money that was "frozen" with all the sanctions.

You even mention frozen funds, wowzers what a fail.

If being honest is a FAIL to you, I will gladly continue to fail. Point being, if the mafia has their money frozen by the U.S., we should NOT give it back, but I'm sure your OK with this too. That, is called a FAIL.

originally posted by: Painterz
I also ~may~ have received $33.6bn in cash from the Federal Government too.

Which may be what really happened seeing that some of this money......about half? was interest paid on the frozen funds. And the bank didn't pay that we did? Which certainly puts an * on any ideas about the nature of the deal.

wrong quote, sorry

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: Britguy

originally posted by: Bluntone22
Sounds like iran got a pretty good deal.
They get a crap ton of money in exchange for basically nothing.

If that was Iranian money that has been frozen all these years then all got was their money back, as they should have done a very long time ago.

Exactly. Not like the money come from the USA tax payer.

Your are obviously too young to remember when Iran and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad kidnapped and tortured American citizens.



The Democratic failed rescue attempt cost millions of dollars as well as countless American lives.
They are worse than a crime syndicate, they are a terrorist country that support the murder of innocent people, by the thousands!
They owe us billions!

a reply to: Violater1

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has been out of power some time now.

Plus anyway the UK killed US citizens, so did japan.

And we are all freinds now.

Some times you have to put the past in the past.


The old regime in Iran is losing power every day. In the next decade or two the Allatoha will be dead and the young mostly pro west young generation will be in power.

Time will sort Iran out.

What would you do?

Bomb or invade Iran? Cause that didnt turn out to well in Iraq, libya or Afghanistan did it?

Impose new sanctions? That will harm the civilian population and could increase support for the old regime.

a reply to: crazyewok

Ok its a lot more complicated than that. Iran are really a bunch of gangster war mongers destablelisers Nazi, Jewish nationalist hating, drug running, proxy supporting and oppressive to their own people funk-amentalist.

a reply to: Logarock

Well you and the USA go have your little war with them.

Just get it over with.


Il stay and home and laugh my arse off and do nothing

O and while you chicken hawks are focusing on Iran with your war bonners there is currently a REAL and DANGROUS manic with REAL and CONFESSED WMDs including nukes called Kim jong un. A maniac who not only publicly admits but BOASTS how he is making ICBMS to nuke the US main land.

originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: Violater1

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has been out of power some time now.

Don't put words into my mouth, I Never said he was in power.

Plus anyway the UK killed US citizens, so did japan.

Really?
Really! Is the UK or Japan firing live munitions across the paths of the U.S Navy while in international waters? Is the UK or Japan threatening to destroy the great Satan America?

And we are all friends(sic) now.

Who are you saying "we are friends now"? The Iranian government? Do friendly nations violate international nuclear law? Do they send patrol boats out to cross the paths of our Navy? Your delusional. Your poor attempt to obfuscate me and others readers, is petty at best.

Some times you have to put the past in the past.

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." ~ George Santayana

The regime in Iran is losing power every day. In the next decade or two the Allatoha(sic) will be dead and the young mostly pro west young generation will be in power.

Time will sort Iran out.

Just like time sorted out Vladimir Lenin, Joseph Stalin, ... and Putin. Ask the Ukrainians if time has made Russia better to them.

What would you do?

For starters, I would put more thought into a subject before posting it on a forum and then looking like the south end of a horse going north.

Bomb or invade Iran? Cause that didn't(sic) turn out to well in Iraq, Libya(sic) or Afghanistan did it?

Impose new sanctions? That will harm the civilian population and could increase support for the old regime.

Look, I can't come down to your level and attempt to make sense, you just won't get it. Sorry.
My only suggestion is get a dictionary, read some world history books, and enroll into a local college and take some Political Theory and Introduction to International Relations. Then we can have a decent discussion. Until then, later.

double post, sorry

Iran is the bad guy? Oil, Britain and the US forced a coup in Iran. Iran isn't the one doing dirty deeds.

The 1953 Iranian coup d'état, known in Iran as the 28 Mordad coup, was the overthrow of the Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh in favour of strengthening the monarchical rule of Mohammad Reza Pahlavi on 19 August 1953, orchestrated by the United Kingdom and the United States.

Mossadegh had sought to audit the documents of the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (AIOC), a British corporation (now part of BP) and to limit the company's control over Iranian petroleum reserves. Upon the refusal of the AIOC to co-operate with the Iranian government, the parliament voted to nationalize Iran's oil industry and to expel foreign corporate representatives from the country.

In August 2013, 60 years after, the American Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) admitted that it was in charge of both the planning and the execution of the coup, including the bribing of Iranian politicians, security and army high-ranking officials, as well as pro-coup propaganda. The CIA is quoted acknowledging the coup was carried out "under CIA direction" and "as an act of U.S. foreign policy, conceived and approved at the highest levels of government."

Iraq also invaded Iran and we all know who backed Saddam in Iraq.

a reply to: Violater1

So all you have is patronising arrogant bull#?

Think your the one thats needs to pick up a book as it is clear you dont have a awnser for any of my points.

You used patronization and insults to hide the fact you actually dont have a counter to any of my points.

a reply to: Violater1

Plus those crazy stunts against the US navy come from the Revolutionry Guard. The last institution the hard liners have left.
They are doing it to still stay relevent as they know they have only a decade or two left.

They want to provoke a incident so they can stir up public outcry.

Ignore them and they will fade into history.