Charles Ortel Lobs the First of 40 Bombs at the Clinton Foundation

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: Gryphon66
So ... the accusation is enough for conviction?

No one wants to vet or review the information for accuracy?

Oh, that's right, it's what the right-wing sheep have been led to believe already.

My baaaad.

Yeah, keep on going with that non-argument. It's already failing for Hillary, "it's all a right wing conspiracy" That one ran out of petrol last week, but the DNC isn't always sending out those memo's.

A "non argument" that claims should be vetted for facts rather than simply believed?

Of course accuracy or vetting is not required!

We are in the post-truth Trumpinian election cycle...how you "Feel" matters! Not stupid facts or truth!!

Ted Cruz's father killed Kennedy! Pres. Obama was born in Kenya! Whatever suits your candidate!

Hell ATS needs to change it's motto...Pretty much the precise opposite these days.

a reply to: SentientCentenarian

Goody Goody, this and Wikileaks! it's like Christmas in September!

originally posted by: Gryphon66
(PS, the discussion is about the Clinton FOUNDATION not Hillary.)

This is like saying the discussion is about Watergate not Nixon.
You do realize her being a Clinton makes the discussion about her right?

Your mental gymnastics won't get you out of this one.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
So ... the accusation is enough for conviction?

No one wants to vet or review the information for accuracy?

Oh, that's right, it's what the right-wing sheep have been led to believe already.

My baaaad.

Jeez this isn't a one off event with the Clintons. So I guess your saying they have done NOTHING wrong and are good upstanding people?

originally posted by: jadedANDcynical

Charity watch is hosted by the same company that hosts Platte River. Interesting coincidence.

Great find J&C, that is very interesting!

originally posted by: burntheships

originally posted by: jadedANDcynical

Charity watch is hosted by the same company that hosts Platte River. Interesting coincidence.

Great find J&C, that is very interesting!

Why is it interesting?

What does the host have to do with it?

Here's the Clinton Foundation tax return from 2014 if anyone has the right kind of brain to scrutinize it - I sure as hell don't.

CF taxes 2014

a reply to: Indigo5

Nice dramatic deflection.

Truth has taken the back seat to the pseudo-morality of the left. The defense of the corrupt status quo is on full display in the media.

Dallas Morning News just endorsed Clinton. Why the hell would that matter? People are scrambling to justify their normalcy biases.

Don't blame ATS for putting this chicanery in the forefront. We are just here for the show honestly. It will be over soon.

Then we can go back to the Mandela effects of Sasquatch being killed by the Reptilians.

originally posted by: sirlancelot

originally posted by: Gryphon66
So ... the accusation is enough for conviction?

No one wants to vet or review the information for accuracy?

Oh, that's right, it's what the right-wing sheep have been led to believe already.

My baaaad.

Jeez this isn't a one off event with the Clintons.

That's right!

They have been accused of all kinds of things by the right so they MUST be guilty.

It is insane logic...Attack someone and then explain the very fact they got attacked must mean there is a good reason.

How about you just admit the OP is silly, stupid, unproven bunk? Or is the plan to continue to go all Birther where facts don't matter?

..No need to answer..I know the answer...the Right Wing doesn't care about facts.

a reply to: Indigo5

The Clinton's have themselves admitted a conflict of Interest,
to the point Bill would remove himself from the Foundation
and stop taking foreign donations, and corporate donations.

Clinton promises to stop taking foundation donations
By Muckety
August 19, 2016 at 7:34am

Bill Clinton announced Thursday that the Clinton Foundation would stop accepting foreign and corporate donations if Hillary Clinton wins the presidential election, the New York Times reported.

Clinton also said he would resign from the foundation board.

The interactive Muckety map below shows foreign countries and corporations that have donated money to the foundation.

news.muckety.com...

So then explain just how this does not implicate Hillary using
her position as Sec of State to sell favors?

originally posted by: Bobaganoosh
a reply to: Indigo5

Nice dramatic deflection.

Truth has taken the back seat to the pseudo-morality of the left. The defense of the corrupt status quo is on full display in the media.

Dallas Morning News just endorsed Clinton. Why the hell would that matter? People are scrambling to justify their normalcy biases.

The Dallas Morning News endorsing Clinton matters because it is the first time in 75 years the paper has endorsed a Democrat...WHY IS THAT?

Cuz the right wing has jumped the shark...It's Nominee accused Ted Cruz's father of killing Kennedy and Pres. Obama of being born in Kenya...

Put another way..they endorsed Clinton cuz of OPs like this where facts are ignored or molested in the name of the end justifies the means.

They are a staunchly conservative paper....

Those are real shortcomings.

But they pale in comparison to the litany of evils some opponents accuse her of,” the editorial said. “Treason? Murder? Her being cleared of crimes by investigation after investigation has no effect on these political hyenas; they refuse to see anything but conspiracies and cover-ups.”

www.huffingtonpost.com...

Political Hyenas...immune to facts...undeterred by the surprising outcomes of their own repeated investigations

I don't even like Hillary Clinton...It is you morons though that have managed to insure her getting elected...by against all odds nominating someone completely unfit to even pretend to run for office.

When the Dallas Morning News endorses her...The Right Wing has fully destroyed the Conservatism movement.

God Help me...The right wing is ruining this country.

a reply to: Indigo5

Sorry, but you are missing the point.

The Clintons are likely responsible for many of the allegations.

The bigger picture here is that many on the "right" are complicit in these crimes. It is corruption across the spectrum.

While being far from a perfect solution, being a Trump supporter is the best chance any of us have to expose this "deadly decay" to the light of day.

Dismissing the provided information presented in the OP as another allegation in an unfathomably long list of allegations is either a part of normalcy bias, or obfuscation on your part.

Neither side is innocent, but at the present time, only one side is fighting for real accountability.

If you have made your choice, so be it.

originally posted by: burntheships
a reply to: Indigo5

The Clinton's have themselves admitted a conflict of Interest,
to the point Bill would remove himself from the Foundation
and stop taking foreign donations, and corporate donations.

So what? So they are going the extra-mile to re-assure the public?

If it was Trump bribing the AG in Florida..Criminal Complaints filed and he already lied about not talking to her..Or his Scam University bilking thousands of people out of Millions and a RICO case moving forward to trial?...Or his Tax returns?

Know what he says when people ask questions? Eff-Off!! Cuz he is a full-on criminal, not simply the subject of repeated politically motivated conspiracy theory.

originally posted by: Bobaganoosh
a reply to: Indigo5

Sorry, but you are missing the point.

The Clintons are likely responsible for many of the allegations.

No...No they are not. They are guilty of being democrats running for President..and Bill is guilty of cheating on his wife and lying about it.

The rest is Glen Beck style wack-o-doodle white board inventions...

And the SH*& the GOP thought they could get to stick...emails and Behngazi...something like 50+ hearings combined...found her not guilty.

Political Hyenas...undeterred by facts or reality..

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: burntheships

originally posted by: jadedANDcynical

Charity watch is hosted by the same company that hosts Platte River. Interesting coincidence.

Great find J&C, that is very interesting!

Why is it interesting?

What does the host have to do with it?

It's called "remove the referee"...

Fact-Check or Politifact?....Liberal propaganda...cuz the facts disagree with right wing BS.

Charity watch?..The org that examines Charities for fraud and mismanagement?...well, since they say the Clinton Foundation actually spends 88% of what it takes in on actual programs on the ground vs. administration...then CharityWatch must be a liberal conspiracy fraud organization invented to protect the Clintons...

originally posted by: Indigo5


So what? So they are going the extra-mile to re-assure the public?

No, they are being called out as unethical from all sides, Democrats
included. They have been caught red handed and know that
they have been on the take all of these years.

You really think that if it would be questionable if she becomes
POTUS, it was not questionable when she was Sec of State?

originally posted by: burntheships

originally posted by: Indigo5


So what? So they are going the extra-mile to re-assure the public?

No, they are being called out as unethical from all sides, Democrats
included. They have been caught red handed

I don't think you understand what "caught red handed means".

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: burntheships

originally posted by: jadedANDcynical

Charity watch is hosted by the same company that hosts Platte River. Interesting coincidence.

Great find J&C, that is very interesting!

Why is it interesting?

What does the host have to do with it?

It's called "remove the referee"...

Fact-Check or Politifact?....Liberal propaganda...cuz the facts disagree with right wing BS.

Charity watch?..The org that examines Charities for fraud and mismanagement?...well, since they say the Clinton Foundation actually spends 88% of what it takes in on actual programs on the ground vs. administration...then CharityWatch must be a liberal conspiracy fraud organization invented to protect the Clintons...

Kinda what I thought. Typical - - typical.

I listened to a radio discussion on the Clinton charity. I suppose NPR is liberal, so it must be a lie.

The expert stated depending which side you're on - - you might have some ethical questions - - but, to my knowledge nothing has been found to be illegal.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
So ... the accusation is enough for conviction?

No one wants to vet or review the information for accuracy?

Oh, that's right, it's what the right-wing sheep have been led to believe already.

My baaaad.

First of all, you can stop with that. This thread is about the overview of things about to be released. Obviously we can't convict until we see peoof, in court.

Secondly, how much are you paid to defend her? I'm serious. I want to know.

And the SH*& the GOP thought they could get to stick...emails and Behngazi...something like 50+ hearings combined...found her not guilty.

Pure political theatre, thus zero results. The right won't take on the left when the exposure will damage both parties.

You are confusing a bark with a bite. None dare bite.