Cancer cures aplenty? Please watch with an open mind & then you decide.

originally posted by: SomethingLingual

originally posted by: Now2016
a reply to: Farlander

Yes there are many cures.

7.6 million people worldwide die of cancer every year. How many Indians die of cancer every year?

Indians eat a lot of curry. Turmeric is a key ingredient in curry.

Sorry...what's the connection between hot/chili peppers and turmeric?? Lots of Indians eat just turmeric and lots just chili (or other types of) peppers. Lots also like both together. (source: my wife is Indian and I've spent 13 months in India since 2013) Turmeric is good for you certainly...but I don't really understand the connection with anything in this thread nor where it was implicated to reduce or eliminate cancer.

On the other hand, my wife is from a fairly remote mountain tribe and they believe that ginger is one of the healthiest things which cures nearly every physical (and non-physical) ailment. If hot peppers and ginger combined are claimed to be a cancer (or whatever else) reducer, my money's on the ginger. Plus, it tastes great in just about everything.

All of the above - Turmeric, Hot Chili, Ginger, Garlic, Lemon Juice, Apple Ceder Vinegar, Raw Foods, Organic Veges, Organic Honey, and so on, Cancer is a modern disease caused by modern food manipulation - Thanks MONSANTO.

Don't give your children any US farmed Corn Products or US Farmed Soy Products - They are Cancer 2.0

originally posted by: and14263
Steve Jobs is still alive.

With a new identity.

In secret.

Working in cahoots with 'Big Pharma'.

Yes.

You did indeed write that. For real?

Steve Jobbs was a very thin man...maybe he was taking diet pills so when he did fake his death he would eat a lot of McD's burgers and become a heavy D man...triple chin, and then work with pharma on weight loss pills??? LOL

A better option is to prevent cancer rather than try and cure it.

Cancer is a disease that has become very prevalent over the last 100 years or so which coincides with the advent of processed foods and the increased use of sugar. Cancer thrives on sugar. Indeed, there are many cases where people have cured themselves of cancer simply by cutting out sugar, effectively starving the cancer in their bodies.

a reply to: Nonchalant
When I got cancer 30+ years ago I was consuming very little sugar. My diet consisted then of mostly fresh fish for protein (meat once, maybe twice a week), brown rice and other grains, and green vegetables. I was surfing (and body surfing), hang gliding, and hanging out. Hell, I even was lifting. Working swing shift. Life was awesome.

What was I doing wrong? Was it the fish and not the sugar?

originally posted by: Nonchalant
A better option is to prevent cancer rather than try and cure it.

Cancer is a disease that has become very prevalent over the last 100 years or so which coincides with the advent of processed foods and the increased use of sugar. Cancer thrives on sugar. Indeed, there are many cases where people have cured themselves of cancer simply by cutting out sugar, effectively starving the cancer in their bodies.

Complete and utter lies. First we have evidence of cancer in people who lived 5000 years ago, when they didn't have processed foods and sugar.

Second, glucose feeds every cell in our cells, all cells in our body thrive on glucose. Eating sugar does not speed the growing of cancer cells. Eating too much sugar can make you overweight and damage your insulin effectiveness or production, but it does not affect cancer cells directly.

Do you know that all carbohydrates are converted into glucose? So, in order to 'starve the cancer' (as you put it) should people stop eating all carbohydrates?

I am waiting eagerly for the studies you have that back up your statement.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Nonchalant
When I got cancer 30+ years ago I was consuming very little sugar. My diet consisted then of mostly fresh fish for protein (meat once, maybe twice a week), brown rice and other grains, and green vegetables. I was surfing (and body surfing), hang gliding, and hanging out. Hell, I even was lifting. Working swing shift. Life was awesome.

What was I doing wrong? Was it the fish and not the sugar?

Unfortunately the causes of cancer that are within our control are only a handful. We can try to reduce the risk by not becoming obese, by not smoking and avoiding the sun, but we can only do that, reduce the risk, we cannot eliminate the risk. Generally cancer is a rare random event that can happen to anybody.

Physicist Pioneers Groundbreaking Cancer Treatment Using Lasers

I was about to make a thread on this but found this excellent thread, while this is not touted as a cure, this treatment of Cancer may come close Dr. Hadiyah-Nicole Green is pioneering a treatment using laser with little or no side effects, in the vid she told Martin something a lil disturbing in what her mentor told her..no body want a cancer treatment that didn't involve drugs..It will never see the light of day. but according to her it worked out well, so apparently no harm no foul.

originally posted by: Spider879

Physicist Pioneers Groundbreaking Cancer Treatment Using Lasers

I was about to make a thread on this but found this excellent thread, while this is not touted as a cure, this treatment of Cancer may come close Dr. Hadiyah-Nicole Green is pioneering a treatment using laser with little or no side effects
in the vid she told Martin something a lil disturbing in what her mentor told her..no body want a cancer treatment that didn't involve drugs..It will never see the light of day. but according to her it worked out well, so apparently no harm no foul.

Dr Green is amazing and she has now won a $1.1 million grant to develop her technology. It's not as simple as no harm no foul as the treatment has not been tested in humans yet. Perhaps mice had little side effects, but nobody knows if it will be the same with human cancer.

Regarding what her mentor said: they needed to find a way to deliver the nanoparticles in a safe way hence the targeting strategy was changed from in vitro to in vivo with mice (you can read about it HERE, this is her study). So now she has an FDA approved drug to deliver the nanoparticles to target the cancer cells.

The nanoparticles are harmless unless they are heated by the laser, but we'll have to wait for the three phases of clinical trials to see how it works out.

$1.1 million awarded to Tuskegee University to support cancer diagnosis and treatment system

Thanks so much for posting the thread. I realise this may be old hat to some people here on ATS, but for me it's a revelation to realise that there's alternatives to chemotherapy & radiation therapy.

I've watched six episodes so far, and the amount of information being put forward is incredible. There are aspects which I've felt are a bit wacky, but over the course of those multiple episodes, I feel like I've learned a lot about the 'cancer industry' and the alternative approaches.

With particular reference to the importance of good nutrition as a preventative measure - keeping the immune system in top condition, making sure your system is detox'ed, and so forth - it seems incredible that oncologists have no interest in nutrition, etc.

There's just so much information in those videos, I feel empowered to realise that there are other avenues to pursue, both in prevention & treatment. Thanks again.

originally posted by: Now2016
a reply to: Farlander
Indians eat a lot of curry. Turmeric is a key ingredient in curry.

Its more complex than that however, and when Indian people move from rural to urban areas the rates go up. Also, as the study below notes as life expectancy goes up, the risk gets greater. Denmark would seem to point to this with its high life expectancy.

An interesting study www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

a reply to: Agartha

Unsupported opinions? So, in other words NONE of the MANY doctors and cancer conquerers 'count' in your 'expert' opinion? I'm just kind of curious as to what an supported opinion would even look like according to what you've said. I also wonder if you REALLY DID watch the entire series like you claim to have and yet, made such a statement. Don't get me wrong, I'm not condemning you, I'm merely questioning what, in fact, you would actually accept as evidence since the overwhelming testimony of so many verifiable medical experts apparently ISN'T enough for you? Here's an interesting quote from you:

One example is that he said drugs companies ignore natural 'cures' because they cannot patent natural substances and that's not true, when many (if not most) chemo drugs are made with compounds extracted from plants.

That is actually basically untrue. Certainly, the essential ingredients may ORIGINATE from natural sources but after considerable, expensive chemical processing, they no longer can realistically be even remotely considered 'natural'. By the FDA's own outrageously expensive review process, ONLY the extremely deep pockets of major corporations and a very few others could ever afford to have a substance certified as medicine, assuming, of course, the medical review board even allowed it be entered as such. Why the law forbids medical use of natural substances I'm also curious as to whether you STILL believe the bologna about the pharmaceutical corporations sincerity in looking at REAL cancer cures as compared to their ridiculously over-priced and terribly toxic 'treatment' options like chemotherapy? The sad fact of the matter is that our multi-trillion (by now?) research efforts at 'finding a cure' according to mainstream medical authorities never seem to want to ask the questions of HOW people got cancer, where it may have originated and whether diet & lifestyle have anything whatsoever to do with it. Instead, they're apparently ONLY focused on treatment but of course, never prevention. Do yourself a favor and PLEASE do some research before you claim to KNOW that the many doctors, medical experts and cancer conquerers in the series know NOTHING apparently according to you. Here's an older video that covers some cures that were discovered way back in the earlier days of the 20th century and yet, you STILL won't find any truthful mention of them in mainstream medical journals & literature. Remember, the treatment for cancer, (because, of course, there IS no cure...) nets the pharmaceutical corporations and all others involved well over $100,000,000,000+ a year! NIH cancer cost projections for the year 2020 Why exactly would they want to end that gravy train unless of course, you sincerely believe that doctors and pharmaceutical representatives and corporate executives are, unlike the rest of humanity, immune to corruption, graft & influence? I think others would vehemently disagree with you on that count.

a reply to: Agartha

Interesting! So, first of all, you say this:

Complete and utter lies. First we have evidence of cancer in people who lived 5000 years ago, when they didn't have processed foods and sugar.

WITHOUT any verifiable information or refutational sources other than "because I said so"? It is becoming increasingly obvious to me that you may NOT have watched any of the documentaries that I originally posted while maintaining that you have. Perhaps you may have forgotten what was in them so I'll leave it to you to review them rather than calling someone else's post complete and utter lies without offering some concrete evidence to back up your claims. What's even more fascinating is the fact that even though you've done that, you go on to say "I am waiting eagerly for the studies you have to back up your statement" without offering ANYTHING to back up your claim other than your word? I'd say that may make some people consider the word hypocrisy.

a reply to: Farlander


I have seen a few reports, that it also acts in the bloodstream to kill off rogue cells, their have been a few anacdotal reports that it has stopped leukemia.They would not of bothered doing a trial unless their was evidence worth following.

originally posted by: 1FreeThinker
Unsupported opinions? So, in other words NONE of the MANY doctors and cancer conquerers 'count' in your 'expert' opinion? I'm just kind of curious as to what an supported opinion would even look like according to what you've said.

They are charlatans and they sell lies just to profit from those who don't understand how the human body works. I told you, pick any 'expert' in those videos or any topic and I'm happy to discuss them with you.

I also wonder if you REALLY DID watch the entire series like you claim to have and yet, made such a statement. Don't get me wrong, I'm not condemning you, I'm merely questioning what, in fact, you would actually accept as evidence since the overwhelming testimony of so many verifiable medical experts apparently ISN'T enough for you?

With a great effort I did watch the series (I think last year or the year before, I can't remember exactly). And testimony is not evidence. Science is the only evidence I accept.

Here's an interesting quote from you:....

That is actually basically untrue. Certainly, the essential ingredients may ORIGINATE from natural sources but after considerable, expensive chemical processing, they no longer can realistically be even remotely considered 'natural'. By the FDA's own outrageously expensive review process, ONLY the extremely deep pockets of major corporations and a very few others could ever afford to have a substance certified as medicine, assuming, of course, the medical review board even allowed it be entered as such. Why the law forbids medical use of natural substances

Only in a lab you can extract the substance for the treatments. Unfortunately, because of the way our digestive system works, ingesting those plants wouldn't work the same way.

I'm also curious as to whether you STILL believe the bologna about the pharmaceutical corporations sincerity in looking at REAL cancer cures as compared to their ridiculously over-priced and terribly toxic 'treatment' options like chemotherapy? The sad fact of the matter is that our multi-trillion (by now?) research efforts at 'finding a cure' according to mainstream medical authorities never seem to want to ask the questions of HOW people got cancer, where it may have originated and whether diet & lifestyle have anything whatsoever to do with it. Instead, they're apparently ONLY focused on treatment but of course, never prevention.

The Big bad pharma conspiracy doesn't work in the UK where I live as we have socialized health care and we, patients, don't pay a penny. The government wouldn't spend more than necessary for treatment.

Do yourself a favor and PLEASE do some research before you claim to KNOW that the many doctors, medical experts and cancer conquerers in the series know NOTHING apparently according to you.

LOL I've spent years at uni studying a medical science, then years training and still updating my knowledge and doing courses whilst working. I have also had a very interesting placement on an oncology ward and hospice. So I think I have done my research. Watching youtube videos is not what I consider research.

Here's an older video that covers some cures that were discovered way back in the earlier days of the 20th century and yet, you STILL won't find any truthful mention of them in mainstream medical journals & literature.

Remember, the treatment for cancer, (because, of course, there IS no cure...) nets the pharmaceutical corporations and all others involved well over $100,000,000,000+ a year! NIH cancer cost projections for the year 2020 Why exactly would they want to end that gravy train unless of course, you sincerely believe that doctors and pharmaceutical representatives and corporate executives are, unlike the rest of humanity, immune to corruption, graft & influence? I think others would vehemently disagree with you on that count.

I don't have time to watch that now so I'lll come back to it.

ANYTHING to back up your claim other than your word? I'd say that may make some people consider the word hypocrisy.

hahaha you say that to me but you don't say anything to the poster I replied to when he also posted statements without evidence? Now that is what I call hypocrisy.

Here is my evidence. I always have real evidence to back up any claims or statements I make. But I have learned to wait until I get a response sometimes as many people who post pseudoscience don't usually post any.

Oldest cancer case in 1.7 million year old hominin

And 1.7 million year ago there was no Big pharma, no processed food, no sugars etc etc.
How do you explain that?

originally posted by: Farlander
Cancer can be cured by eating hot peppers. Seriously. And freshly grated ginger.

Check out The Doctor Who Cures Cancer by William Kelley Eidem.

There are plenty of studies now confirming there's truth to this. Here's one of them:

www.cedars-sinai.edu...

My mother fought cancer for years, avoiding chemo. As soon as she started chemo, her health deteriorated rapidly. She was gone within two months.

Kelley Eidem is a fraud who charges people money to give "medical" advice over Skype.
He claims he "cured" himself over stage 4 cancer using sandwiches with chillies on.
His diagnosis of his stage 4 cancer was red blotches on his skin after having a shower...

If you look at his YouTube videos he peddles anything he can get his hands on.

The book he wrote about Dr Revici is about as scientific as an Enid Blyton book and medically about as useful.

He sells a cure for gullibility too if you're interested?

a reply to: Pardon?
Chilies don't cure hypochondria?
Does anything?


Curious, but not enough to look into it...stage 4, what?

Cancer is a combination of a lot of negative things and emotions, you doing and feeling. It was not known before, it doesn't mean it's a new desease. Watch what you eat, change the way you think, cancer is a sign that you are not living right.
remember what you've dreamed about when you were young, is your live like you wanted it to be..?

originally posted by: 1FreeThinkerCancer cures aplenty?

Clearly not.

originally posted by: Now2016

originally posted by: hutch622
a reply to: 1FreeThinker

If Big Pharma or the PTB had a cure for cancer i am pretty sure Steve Jobs would be alive today .

He probably still is alive (with a new identity). The Cancer Industry needs big names to die from Cancer, to keep the charade alive.

Apparently he believed in alternative treatment, and died because he didn't get the chemotherapy, radiating, or cutting, of the cancer cells - This is all that the Billions and Billions of taxpayer funded research dollars has come up with as a cure for cancer.

Well played to the Cancer Industry, well played Steve Jobs.

I have an opinion that Steve Jobs was assassinated via some kind of cancer inducing microwave/radiation ray gun.

Not all TPTB are on mutual friendly terms and some are in bitter competition and must despise each other.

originally posted by: Agartha

The Big bad pharma conspiracy doesn't work in the UK where I live as we have socialized health care and we, patients, don't pay a penny. The government wouldn't spend more than necessary for treatment.

Of course it works in the UK and it is rampant. The doctors just take money from the government who steals it from the taxpayer. You've never heard of government waste? You don't think some government officials aren't bribed by the medical establishment? They're paedophiles, Satanists and mass murderers for Christ's sake! Fraud is a walk in the park, second nature to them.

I myself am a Data Scientist who mines a data warehouse for an insurance company to sift out crooked doctors and clients.

originally posted by: MariaConsuelo
Cancer is a combination of a lot of negative things and emotions, you doing and feeling.

Really? So an 18 month old toddler got cancer because he had negative feelings and actions?

originally posted by: Macdon
Of course it works in the UK and it is rampant. The doctors just take money from the government who steals it from the taxpayer.

A large percentage of patients have never paid taxes and yet they get free care and free treatment.

You've never heard of government waste?

Please elaborate.

You don't think some government officials aren't bribed by the medical establishment?

Why would the medical establishment bribe government officials? Hospitals don't charge patients.

They're paedophiles, Satanists and mass murderers for Christ's sake! Fraud is a walk in the park, second nature to them.

Are we talking about politicians or hospital staff?

I myself am a Data Scientist who mines a data warehouse for an insurance company to sift out crooked doctors and clients.

I myself work in a hospital for the NHS, so I know first hand about costs and where the money goes and comes from.

Do you work in the UK as a data scientist?