So, exactly how classified were those emails anyway...?

This is Charles McCullough, Intelligence Community Inspector General, telling congress that the emails Hilliary[SNIP] and her staffers saw, as well as whomever hacked her private server, are so secret he cant even release them to congress without permission of the agency who created them. And - he can't even tell congress the name of the agency in an open hearing... !



And [SNIP] says she didn't know what the big "C" meant, and cant remember being trained on how to handle classified material...



And for some Godforsaken reason, she still thinks she is the most qualified presidential candidate ever?!?

Her health issues alone are cause for alarm. She is shadowed by someone with a diazepam injector. Diazepam is used for a variety of ailments, most of which are quite serious. However, the drug manufacturer itself states that, "patients receiving diazepam should be cautioned against engaging in activities requiring complete mental alertness".

The conditions that can be treated with diazepam inclue, but are not limited to:
Anxiety - noted: Anxiety or tension associated with the stress of everyday life usually does not require treatment with an anxiolytic.
Acute alcohol withdrawal
Acute agitation
Tremor
Impending or acute delirium tremens
Hallucinosis
Skeletal muscle spasm due to reflex spasm
Spasticity caused by upper motor neuron disorders (such as cerebral palsy and paraplegia); athetosis; stiff-man syndrome; and tetanus
Status epilepticus
Severe recurrent convulsive seizures

Also of note:

"If diazepam is to be combined with other psychotropic agents or anticonvulsant drugs, careful consideration should be given to the pharmacology of the agents to be employed—particularly with known compounds which may potentiate the action of diazepam, such as phenothiazines, narcotics, barbiturates, MAO inhibitors and other antidepressants. In highly anxious patients with evidence of accompanying depression, particularly those who may have suicidal tendencies, protective measures may be necessary. The usual precautions in treating patients with impaired hepatic function should be observed. Metabolites of diazepam are excreted by the kidney; to avoid their excess accumulation, caution should be exercised in the administration to patients with compromised kidney function.

Since an increase in cough reflex and laryngospasm may occur with peroral endoscopic procedures, the use of a topical anesthetic agent and the availability of necessary countermeasures are recommended.

Diazepam Injection has produced hypotension or muscular weakness in some patients particularly when used with narcotics, barbiturates or alcohol."

And last but not least - adverse reactions:

"Side effects most commonly reported were drowsiness, fatigue and ataxia; venous thrombosis and phlebitis at the site of injection. Other adverse reactions less frequently reported include: CNS: confusion, depression, dysarthria, headache, hypoactivity, slurred speech, syncope, tremor, vertigo. G.I.: constipation, nausea. G.U.: incontinence, changes in libido, urinary retention. Cardiovascular : bradycardia, cardiovascular collapse, hypotension. EENT: blurred vision, diplopia, nystagmus. Skin: urticaria, skin rash. Other: hiccups, changes in salivation, neutropenia, jaundice. Paradoxical reactions such as acute hyperexcited states, anxiety, hallucinations, increased muscle spasticity, insomnia, rage, sleep disturbances and stimulation have been reported; should these occur, use of the drug should be discontinued. Minor changes in EEG patterns, usually low-voltage fast activity, have been observed in patients during and after diazepam therapy and are of no known significance.

In peroral endoscopic procedures, coughing, depressed respiration, dyspnea, hyperventilation, laryngospasm and pain in throat or chest have been reported."

Considering the multitude of recent videos showing her unable to climb stairs unassisted, seeming confused or disoriented, slurring her speech, projectile emission amid repeating coughing spasms, and so many others, it has to make one curious to say the least.


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a reply to: Vroomfondel

She's never been trained in diplomacy. She was a first lady and a state senator for one term.

And just because you held positions does NOT mean you are qualified.

She's proven herself incompetent. Unreliable. Unprofessional.


She was a crooked lawyer, a bad first lady, an ineffective senator, a train-wreck as Sec of State.

The ONLY good thing she has done was to illuminate how corrupt our system actually is.

a reply to: Vroomfondel

Classified material is classified material. Congress would have to establish a need to know, just like anybody else, before getting to read classified material. All the more so in an open hearing.

I can think of any number of things that the freshman congressman from Idaho doesn't have any need to know, much less the general public, that a Secretary of State would know.

Like the security status of embassies and consulates and non-acknowledged sites around the world.

The whole thing hinges on the alt- Hillary theories.

Extremely classified and top secret material all over the place.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Vroomfondel

She's never been trained in diplomacy. She was a first lady and a state senator for one term.

And just because you held positions does NOT mean you are qualified.

She's proven herself incompetent. Unreliable. Unprofessional.


She was a crooked lawyer, a bad first lady, an ineffective senator, a train-wreck as Sec of State.

The ONLY good thing she has done w as to illuminate how corrupt our system actually is.

What? Pleeeeease. Hillary is Awesome!!! . . . . . She and Trump should take a bath together . . . In the Caldera of an active Volcano imo. 😘 just kidding, but honestly, 2016? Worst Election choices ever.

a reply to: 191stMIDET

I would have gone with Giant Meteor, but I didn't like the tax plan on capital gains.

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: Vroomfondel

Classified material is classified material. Congress would have to establish a need to know, just like anybody else, before getting to read classified material. All the more so in an open hearing.

I can think of any number of things that the freshman congressman from Idaho doesn't have any need to know, much less the general public, that a Secretary of State would know.

Like the security status of embassies and consulates and non-acknowledged sites around the world.

He didnt ask for the classifed material to be read in an open hearing. He just asked if congress could be provided the emails in a classified format. The response he got was no, and I cant even tell you who has them... That is screwed up. Its one thing to deny the information in an open hearing, which I agree with. But to deny it to congress in a classified format and refuse even mentioning the name of the organization controlling it...something is very wrong there.

He could just as well have said, "I could tell you - but then I would have to kill you."

Both are not qualified. She is worse though because she does not learn from past mistakes. Her first crack at healthcare reform was a train wreck as first lady. Cost taxpayers millions and it went nowhere. You would think she would have a lot of experience and have something to add. Nope. No insight at all. Trump is a businessman. The government is not a business. Not designed to be run like a business. Maybe he knows this already so I am willing to give him a chance to clean up a few things that nobody is willing to take on. All he has to do is get more dollars bouncing around in our economy instead of bankers and other countries. If he can do that it will fix a whole list of problems.

She was working with Intelligence material. That's highly classified.

She was working with HUMINT. That's even more highly classified.

You know ... Above Top Secret (except all uppercase).

The reason they found the paragraph markings with the little ( C ) thingy ... well the 'substitutionists' merely forgot about those pesky little varmints and failed to remove them.

What they're not telling you is that ... every paragraph in a classified document has to be individually marked at the highest classification of the material contained therein. So ... somebody went through and deleted all the ( S ) and ( TS ) and special caveats. They just don't mention it ... and it seems everyone is too dumb to ask about that.

originally posted by: Snarl
She was working with Intelligence material. That's highly classified.

She was working with HUMINT. That's even more highly classified.

You know ... Above Top Secret (except all uppercase).

The reason they found the paragraph markings with the little ( C ) thingy ... well the 'substitutionists' merely forgot about those pesky little varmints and failed to remove them.

What they're not telling you is that ... every paragraph in a classified document has to be individually marked at the highest classification of the material contained therein. So ... somebody went through and deleted all the ( S ) and ( TS ) and special caveats. They just don't mention it ... and it seems everyone is too dumb to ask about that.

Your post rekindled a lot of memories from my spook days. It seems that some things haven't changed much at all, in the past 30 years. Thanks Snarl!

I am not even sure at this stage it matters much... If it was any other person bare a very select few it would end in a Prison celly yet she is running for POTUS, the sloppiness of it all is mind blowing.

Oh well if people vote for her then you know what is coming next, her attitude and stance are very public, that is when she decides to be in public..


RA

originally posted by: Vroomfondel
And killary says she didn't know what the big "C" meant, and cant remember being trained on how to handle classified material...

Well if you're a Hillary supporter it might mean Colored.

Then again it might mean Compact, Conditioner, Cardio, Conservative, Conspiracy, Carpet, Curtains, Crayon, Crack, Cabbage, Capricorn, Celery, Climate, Chicano, Chinese, China, Curveball, Cis, Criminal, Cause, CCTV, Circumvent, Circumnavigate, Coerce, Conscript, Carrot, Complacent, Coronation, Constrict, Contrive, Cosmetic, Corporate, Connive, Cemetery, Christian, Circus, Contempt, Coward, Critic, Curse...

As you can see it'd a very diverse word. For her the meaning could mean anything from one day to the next. Were she intelligent hen this perpetual mixup wouldn't be a problem. Just go with it, already!

a reply to: Vroomfondel

SAPs

originally posted by: Vroomfondel

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: Vroomfondel

Classified material is classified material. Congress would have to establish a need to know, just like anybody else, before getting to read classified material. All the more so in an open hearing.

I can think of any number of things that the freshman congressman from Idaho doesn't have any need to know, much less the general public, that a Secretary of State would know.

Like the security status of embassies and consulates and non-acknowledged sites around the world.

He didnt ask for the classifed material to be read in an open hearing. He just asked if congress could be provided the emails in a classified format. The response he got was no, and I cant even tell you who has them... That is screwed up. Its one thing to deny the information in an open hearing, which I agree with. But to deny it to congress in a classified format and refuse even mentioning the name of the organization controlling it...something is very wrong there.

He could just as well have said, "I could tell you - but then I would have to kill you."

And again, any member of congress does not have carte blanch to read whatever classified material they want, whether the possession of said material is under investigation or not.

Sources and methods? Yea right, between that and the nuclear codes it's a toss up as to what's a more closely held secret.

And not revealing what agency classified the information denies the Ugandan intelligence minister that's watching CNN the ability to home in on what kind of information is floating around. Kind of like how not everybody who works at an intelligence agency tells their neighbor's that they work at an intelligence agency.

Just because Hillary and Co. are cavalier with classified information doesn't mean everybody else gets to be. This is incredibly basic, low level, learned it on day three of the job classified material handling.

well, that's explains it...
hillary was sick on day three, four, five, six and seven of the training!

am I the only one wondering if maybe, just maybe, there was a leak because our gov't wanted a leak, and this is why this isn't going any further than just political bantering. ya know, not so intelligent intelligence information??

originally posted by: Shamrock6

originally posted by: Vroomfondel

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: Vroomfondel

Classified material is classified material. Congress would have to establish a need to know, just like anybody else, before getting to read classified material. All the more so in an open hearing.

I can think of any number of things that the freshman congressman from Idaho doesn't have any need to know, much less the general public, that a Secretary of State would know.

Like the security status of embassies and consulates and non-acknowledged sites around the world.

He didnt ask for the classifed material to be read in an open hearing. He just asked if congress could be provided the emails in a classified format. The response he got was no, and I cant even tell you who has them... That is screwed up. Its one thing to deny the information in an open hearing, which I agree with. But to deny it to congress in a classified format and refuse even mentioning the name of the organization controlling it...something is very wrong there.

He could just as well have said, "I could tell you - but then I would have to kill you."

And again, any member of congress does not have carte blanch to read whatever classified material they want, whether the possession of said material is under investigation or not.

Sources and methods? Yea right, between that and the nuclear codes it's a toss up as to what's a more closely held secret.

And not revealing what agency classified the information denies the Ugandan intelligence minister that's watching CNN the ability to home in on what kind of information is floating around. Kind of like how not everybody who works at an intelligence agency tells their neighbor's that they work at an intelligence agency.

Just because Hillary and Co. are cavalier with classified information doesn't mean everybody else gets to be. This is incredibly basic, low level, learned it on day three of the job classified material handling.

I get what you are saying. But according to killary these are just emails about yoga classes and her daughters wedding and such. And as a member of congress with oversight, he probably has a security clearance, at least high enough to read about yoga classes. The server was hacked, most likely more than once. If the Ugandan intelligence minister wants to know what was in the emails I am sure it is not beyond his capacity to find out.

The idea that the Intelligence Community Inspector General is denying to even mention the name of the organization that owns the information indicates it is more serious than originally believed. The barn door is wide open, the cows are long gone, yet we still have to play this game - with our own information...and our own congress...when the information belongs to us tax payers in the first place...we paid for it - its ours.

a reply to: Vroomfondel

and he cant even mention the name of the agency WOOOOW

im sorry to say this Americans , but you're scrude , i mean literary

ya know, just the fact that it's chaffetz asking the questions makes me hesitant to believe the story. I mean, his planned parenthood investigation was a joke and I believe he knew he was being untruthful in that one!

but, he's one to talk!!

after a california judge agreed to allowed CMP to hand over all the video that they had from the NAF conventions even through the judge had ordered that they weren't to be released, well, shortly afterwards, some of the started popping up on the internet... mysteriously...

and then, there is this:

In 2011, Chaffetz was warned by the Department of Homeland Security to stop leaking sensitive information. The Washington Post reported, “a clearly miffed Department of Homeland Security Deputy Counsel Joseph B. Maher told Chaffetz that ‘sensitive security information’ provided to his subcommittee by the Transportation Security Administration was illegally disclosed to the press.”

Chaffetz followed up that fail by blowing the CIA’s cover during a Congressional Hearing in 2012, endangering lives.

www.politicususa.com...

how Chaffetz with the help of his congressional friends blew the CIA cover...

www.washingtonpost.com... 6d93299a15

the whole hillary email scandel loses about 50% of it's legitamency because of the fact that it's him I am seeing in many of these videos asking the questions in the congressional investigation. the guy strikes me as the type that would burn down the entire country for a political win!

a reply to: dawnstar

Whether you question the integrity of one of the many persons investigating killary has no effect on her history or the thing she has done. It certainly does not cause the response he got from McCullough or the information, or lack thereof, relayed to him. This is dirty no matter how you slice it. If questioning the interviewer makes you feel better, it only means you found a way to ignore the facts and focus on the fluff.

a reply to: Vroomfondel

Diazepam is used for a variety of ailments, most of which are quite serious.

Not so much. Diazepam is just Valium... AKA chill pill.

In her case, perhaps it's a "Bill pill"