US Deploys HIMARS On Turkey/Syria Border; Fires Into Syria

Well, I suppose its just a few more steps before we cross the border with our armor to join the Turks. Is it any more obvious we are at war with Syria? Intercepting their jets in their airspace, and now firing artillery into their land from across the border. Yea, It does not get more Obvious.

US Embassy in Turkey

Last night:U.S. HIMARS in place and in action. The latest step in U.S.-Turkey cooperation inthe fight against #ISIL.

Hehe, the fuse is lit, when does it hit the charge and go BOOM into WW3??

The US forces hit IS positions close to the Syrian border with Turkey last night, having launched the attack on terrorists with a "newly deployed" High Mobility Artillery Rocket System (HIMARS), the US-led anti-IS coalition's special presidential envoy, Brett McGurk said on Twitter.

If you find out just who or what specific targets were on the receiving end I'd sure like to know.

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We get involved in, or even start many of the foreign conflicts on grounds of vital to our national security and defense. Sad truth is TPTB consider every square inch of this planet is vital to our security and national defense. We are constantly stirring the pot and just can not let other nations live in peace.

wtf is going on?

how are we still co operating with this guy when he has our nukes hostage?

there is some weird crap going on here.

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Here is some recent updates from the last couple of days about a recent FSA push in Northern Syria.


Its no surprise this sudden influx of more FSA trailed the Turkish tank incursions that have been ongoing since the end of August.



Where are the Chinese, EXACTLY??

originally posted by: CharlesT
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We get involved in, or even start many of the foreign conflicts on grounds of vital to our national security and defense. Sad truth is TPTB consider every square inch of this planet is vital to our security and national defense. We are constantly stirring the pot and just can not let other nations live in peace.

Live in peace? You think leaving it alone over there for ISIS to run the show is living in peace?

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Just who created the void allowing ISIS the opportunity to evolve there and just who shipped arms from Benghazi through Turkey to the so-called Syrian rebels. Please try to justify what has transpired across this area when it is all nothing more than who runs an oil pipeline through Syria to Turkey and beyond. Who gets it if Syria falls? Saudi Arabia, UAE? Who gets it if Syria prevails? Iran? Whats the benefit if Syria falls? Russia's oil exports to Europe are undercut and their influence there falters. Quit looking at the situation through a magnifying glass and look at the entire picture.

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The Russians and Syrians can handle it just fine. In fact they were. It was all on schedule to be cleaned up rather swiftly, but NATO became even more embedded with their uninvited American, British, and Frenchand German special forces on the ground.Israeli special forces were spotted in 2013, no doubt paving the way for their creation of ISIS at the time. Plus they are intercepting the air space with F-22's , and Turkey just launched a land invasion of Syria.



NATO forces attacking Syria is prolonging this campaign unnecessarily and painfully.

It’s a good thing that even China as well as Iran is in Syria to help them fight the US supported terror war against the Syrian people


Hopefully they will destroy the terrorists, the US phony allies, and ISIS before Hillary Rotten Clinton gets in office to mess up the ME some more

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Read that NATO just invaded Syria. Hi wsc, welcome to ATS. Thanks for friending me.

God help the citizens of Syria who are all the victims of the wicked machinations of the world leaders.

This situation is a prime example of the horrible rule of Barack Obama. Even Richard Nixon had some vision or leadership capacity when it came to foreign policy, Obama has absolutely none.

Now he just sits back and let's Kerry, the NWO Trilateralist run the US confused, black op ridden foreign policy of this country right into the ground and further imperils the world’s peace and stability.

Before that he let the ignoramus Hillary Clinton--a neocon montress--run the foreign policy

The only good Obama has done is not earlier getting in the war against Syria when they tried to con him over the poison gas frame up on Syria.

Yet he still let the CIA and other black ops secretly war against Syria and support the jihad lunatics.

Then there’s Turkey, run by an absolute lunatic in Erdogan, who changes his mind on policy every week. One week he’s with Russia, the next he’s back in the fold of NATO, the next week he's somewhere else...that’s clearly why the secretly (supported by US) coup was carried out.

NATO, what I call the slow Nazis, has come in too late just to cause mischief. ISIS has already destroyed and tortured thousands of innocent human beings that could have been prevented while Obama played golf.

It’s such a bad situation that Putin here is the hero amongst absolute evil leaders from the West (NATO) and East such as the Gulf State countries: Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar and Jordan who all stabbed Assad in the back.

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yea man, I just don't think it is fair to be committing JSOC and our allies equivalents to such a lost cause. Nothing against them, they have a job to do and do it well. But this is an incorrect use of these fine warriors. In fact, I have no reservations that some of them may be disgusted and appalled at the orders they are getting, but they have to commit 100% or good loyal friends will suffer.

I wish there was a way to divert the media coverage to these ongoing and illicit use of our armed forces. Maybe someone can work it into Trumps tweets or something.

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There is no "FSA" since fall 2013.
After the turkish MİT ended the PR-Ghost called "FSA" and after Kamal Hamami's death most of their fighters left for Al Nusra.
Some western media (and the U.S. ofc) just didn't stop using the term.

*Also, Damascus never provided any evidence for KSK in Ain al-Arab.

More support for that fictional "moderate" opposition?

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yea man, I just don't think it is fair to be committing JSOC and our allies equivalents to such a lost cause.

When they started to hijack the Arab Spring in Syria and begin to go for regime change, the powers that be had no idea it would take so long. The UN resolutions to regime change in Iraq and Libya were rejected by the Security Council this time around. Without direct air support and humanitarian corridors, guerrilla insurgents cant hope to defeat a modern army like Syrias alone.

So we got this bogged down mess of factions, infighting and blood shed.

At least the Russians are clear when they step in. If it looks like a terrorist, acts like a terrorist, its a terrorist.

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The moderate rebels eat your liver with a knife and fork not their hands

originally posted by: worldstarcountry
a reply to: intrptr

yea man, I just don't think it is fair to be committing JSOC and our allies equivalents to such a lost cause. Nothing against them, they have a job to do and do it well. But this is an incorrect use of these fine warriors. In fact, I have no reservations that some of them may be disgusted and appalled at the orders they are getting, but they have to commit 100% or good loyal friends will suffer.

I wish there was a way to divert the media coverage to these ongoing and illicit use of our armed forces. Maybe someone can work it into Trumps tweets or something.

Civil Disobedience

Thoreau

The mass of men serve the state thus, not as men mainly, but as machines, with their bodies. They are the standing army, and the militia, jailers, constables, posse comitatus,(7) etc. In most cases there is no free exercise whatever of the judgment or of the moral sense; but they put themselves on a level with wood and earth and stones; and wooden men can perhaps be manufactured that will serve the purpose as well. Such command no more respect than men of straw or a lump of dirt. They have the same sort of worth only as horses and dogs. Yet such as these even are commonly esteemed good citizens.

Brexit was a punch on the nose of Zionist plans .

Attempted Turkish Coup was another punch on their nose too.

Erdogan is repeating his 15th century ancestor's move ; this ain't the first time this Syrian situation has happened .

Erdogan is being asked to liberate Mecca from the Zionists .



Wil he ? Will he not ?

This issue of Syria is special for Turks and their security ; better not get in a way .

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ok fair enough. Then Turkey should either leave NATO of their own accord, or get the boot. Then, we can allow Syria, Turkey, Russia and China work this mess out on their own right??
American and European special forces should just be pulled out. The only reason they are there is as a sacrificial offering to attempt to escalate the conflict into an all out war of the empires.

Syria and Russia are tip toeing very carefully not to eat the bait.

originally posted by: worldstarcountry
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ok fair enough. Then Turkey should either leave NATO of their own accord, or get the boot. Then, we can allow Syria, Turkey, Russia and China work this mess out on their own right??
American and European special forces should just be pulled out. The only reason they are there is as a sacrificial offering to attempt to escalate the conflict into an all out war of the empires.

Syria and Russia are tip toeing very carefully not to eat the bait.

Turkey is a Nato member but has other interests which requires priority .

Nato has no mechanism to kick a member out as far as I know besides what you are asking is really a nonsensical military proposition .

These US weapons are deployed to show the Turks that regardless of Nato , US and Turkish relations are stronger than ever.

US gets what US wants in the area , regardless.


As for withdrawing US & EU forces , well , that means BP going bankrupt , you sure you want that ?



This is the Valley of Wolves where the fog is semi-permanently lingering in the air .

This isn't the first time around .

In 609 BC, King Nabopolassar captured Kumukh, which cut off the Egyptian army, then based at Carchemish. Necho responded the following year by retaking Kumukh after a four-month siege, and executed the Babylonian garrison.

Nabopolassar gathered another army, which camped at Qurumati on the Euphrates. However, Nabopolassar's poor health forced him to return to Babylon in 605 BC.

In response, in 606 BC the Egyptians attacked the leaderless Babylonians (probably then led by the crown prince Nebuchadrezzar) who fled their position.

At this point, the aged Nabopolassar passed command of the army to his son Nebuchadnezzar II, who led them to a decisive victory over the Egyptians at Carchemish, and pursued the fleeing survivors to Hamath.

Necho's dream of restoring the Egyptian Empire in the Middle East as had occurred under the New Kingdom was destroyed as Nebuchadnezzar conquered Egyptian territory from the Euphrates to the Brook of Egypt (Jeremiah 46:2; 2 Kings 23:29) down to Judea.

Although Nebuchadnezzar spent many years in his new conquests on continuous pacification campaigns, Necho was unable to recover any significant part of his lost territories.

For example, when Ashkalon rose in revolt, despite repeated pleas the Egyptians sent no help, and were barely able to repel a Babylonian attack on their eastern border in 601 BC.

When he did repel the Babylonian attack, Necho managed to capture Gaza while pursuing the enemy. Necho turned his attention in his remaining years to forging relationships with new allies: the Carians, and further to the west, the Greeks.

or if you want to get a really nitty gritty , explore this link if you like .

Kummuh From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Kummuh Kummaḫa ← Unknown–708 BC → Kummuh among the Neo-Hittite states Capital Kummuh Languages Hieroglyphic Luwian Religion Luwian religion Government Monarchy Historical era Iron Age • Established Unknown •

Disestablished 708 BC Today part of Turkey Kummuh was an Iron Age Neo-Hittite kingdom located on the west bank of the Upper Euphrates within the eastern loop of the river between Melid and Carchemish.

Assyrian sources refer to both the land and its capital city by the same name. The city is identified with the classical-period Samosata (modern-day Samsat Höyük), which has now been flooded under the waters of a newly built dam. Urartian sources refer to it as Qumaha.[1]

The name is also attested in at least one local royal inscription dating to the 8th century BCE.[2] Other places that are mentioned in historical sources as lying within Kummuh are lands of Kištan and Halpi, and cities of Wita, Halpa, Parala, Sukiti and Sarita(?).[3]

Kummuh bordered the kingdoms of Melid to the north, Gurgum to the west and Carchemish to the south, while to the east it faced Assyria and later Urartu. Several indigenous rock inscriptions have been found in the region, all written in hieroglyphic Luwian, attesting to the continuity of Hittite traditions.

In his annals, the Assyrian king Sargon II referred to the Kummuh ruler as 'Hittite', and several rulers of Kummuh bore the same names as famous Hittite kings of the 2nd millennium BCE: Hattušili(?), Šuppiluliuma, and Muwattalli (in Assyrian sources Qatazilu, Ušpilulume, and Muttallu, respectively).[4]