German Federal Intelligence Service BND Violates Laws And Constitution By The Dozen

I didn´t know where exactly to put this article, it fits to several forums.
But because all that big brother stuff is excused with "The War On Terror"(TM xD), i guess this forum will fit best for the following article.

I am very happy that Netzpolitik.org decided to translate that article, so i don´t have to try.

From the article:

The German Intelligence Service BND illegally collected and stored its mass surveillance data and has to delete it immediately, including XKeyscore. This is one result of a classified report of the German Federal Data Protection Commissioner that we published. She criticizes serious legal violations and a massive restriction of her supervision authority.
(This is an English translation of the original German reporting, which also includes the full source document.)

When Edward Snowden exposed the global system of mass surveillance by secret services three years ago, including the German foreign intelligence agency BND, the German government tried to shelf it off and declare the case closed. Only one small authority held out: Then-Commissioner for Data Protection Peter Schaar sent his staff on an inspection visit to the joint BND/NSA-station Bad Aibling in southern Germany, of which the BND feared a „very critical public“. The visit resulted in an elaborate „situation report“, but it’s classified „top secret“ and only accessible for few people.

Additionally, the new Data Protection Commissioner Andrea Voßhoff produced a legal analysis of the findings and sent it to the Federal Intelligence Service coordinator in the German Chancellery and former BND president Gerhard Schindler. But this analysis is still classified „secret“ and our Freedom of Information-request has been denied. Media have raised the question „Secret, because embarrassing?“. We have now received this legal analysis and have published the full text of the document (in German).
18 Severe Legal Violations, 12 Official Complaints

This report is indeed embarrassing for BND and Chancellery: On 60 pages, the highest German Data Protection Commissioner lists 18 severe legal violations and files 12 formal complaints. Such a complaint under the German Data Protection Act is the Commissioner’s most severe legal instrument – forcing the authorities to issue a statement in response. This is the first time that a German authority has received this many complaints at once. Usually, the Commissioner files a similar amount of complaints in an entire year – to all federal authorities combined.

The report’s executive summary describes serious violations of the law:

" The BND has illegally and massively restricted my supervision authority on several occasions. A comprehensive and efficient control was not possible.

Contrary to its explicit obligation by law, the BND has created [seven] databases without an establishing order and used them (for many years), thus disregarding fundamental principles of legality. Under current law, the data saved in these databases have to be deleted immediately. They may not be used further.

Although this inspection was only focused on the BND station in Bad Aibling , I found serious legal violations, which are of outstanding importance and concern core areas of the BND’s mission.

The BND has collected personal data without a legal basis und has processed it systematically. The BND’s claim that this information is essential, cannot substitute a missing legal basis. Limitations of fundamental rights always need to be based on law.

German (constitutional) law […] also applies to personal data which the BND has collected abroad and processes domestically. These constitutional restrictions have to be strictly abided by the BND."
Complete Article

Many people may say:
What do you think how S E C R E T Services work? They have to do things in secret. And sometimes they have to do things outside of the laws, to protect us...

That´s where i start to laugh, but it`s an angry, sarcastic laughing. If we people have to follow the constitution and laws of this nation, then EVERYBODY has to do! Otherwise the laws and our constitution are obsolete. And secret services are paid by taxes, so secret services have to work FOR the people, in a normal world. But as we know, they work, at least here in germany, NOT for the GERMAN people, NOT for german interests. They are henchmen of the "USA". Of the NSA, CIA. and all that overseas "three letters agencies". They are all part of the same shadow government. And it´s not a german shadow governments that rules in germany! And the whole story reminds us german tax payers again that we are occupied since 1945.

Even the people, that were not interested in things like mass surveillance, know since Snowden and Co that western secret services act the same like the "evil" eastern secret services. They do the same things to "their own" people. They are not a bit better than those "evil", because not western, secret services and nations that we have to be afraid of, as our propaganda tells us.

And to be honest, if secret services start to spy on their own people(and deliver that data instantly to a[or several] foreign nations secret service), they see "their own" people as enemies. Otherwise that behaviour wouldn´t make any sense! In addition to that fact the whole story shows that "our" secret services are NOT our secret services, that they are remote controlled by NSA and Co, nothing more than devote and simple heelers.

This article is just one little piece of a huge puzzle where many parts are still missing. But that part of the puzzle we could bring together shows us that big brother is out of control, since 9/11. That big brother perceives the people of the western world as enemies, as the next, upcoming terrorists that have to be fought.

Otherwise, everyting we know up to now about the behaviour of the western secret services, wouldn´t make any sense! Why should they do all that against the people they normally should protect? Why do they disregard our laws, our constitution, cut the peoples freedoms (just "to save our laws, constitution, our liberal western lifestyle...)? Like those bearded terrorists in sneakers, that we all have to be afraid of. Their goal is too, as we are told, to destroy our liberal western lifestyle. What a coincidence...

Ok, nobody seems interested, so i can leave and come back later.

a reply to: DerBeobachter

Would i believe a Intelligence agency did its job if it obeyed the law?

No, in fact i would encourage them to break laws if ;" End justifies the means "

The intelligence agencies work is pro-actively, its to protect the citizens.. Their work is rarely a mistake,

Remember, remember!
The fifth of November,
The Gunpowder treason and plot;
I know of no reason
Why the Gunpowder treason
Should ever be forgot!


Fear envokes nationalism. Funny thing is terrorism was more prevalent in the eighties. And more intriguing is the United States proclaiming militias as a primary concern of national security.


I think every nations pledge of allegiance should start with "I am human first, and (fill in blank here for" nation") after that pepper in your indoctrination that will contribute to the blight of humanity.

a reply to: tikbalang

Says everyone before it's discovered their "nemesis" had the upper hand. Then they kick and scream and cry to the UN. I'm not singling anyone out but if I were I'd be in my countries crybaby train. My NSA hacks allies and my government constantly keeps a state of chaos for us to "police". The ends do not justify the means. Sorry, put it into perspective. Humans do not like to be dictated by the illusion of some entities "intelligence".

Damn it, i knew the title:

"The Mandela Effect explained on Clinton and Trump"

would have done it. Unfortunately it doesn´t have to do anything with the topic.

It seems that mass surveillance and secret services going postal is not of interested for the people anymore, it´s like the majority of the people just gave up.

Even on forums like ATS.
At the time it is not worth to open any thread here if it is not about Trump of Hillary, those two ineligible and mental ill puppets, or about the so called and ridiculous Mandela Effect. Or if the title of a thread doesn´t promise a discussion full of hate against muslims, refugees, against people that are poorer than yourself, doesn´t promise a space where one can spread his hate against others, against anything and anyone.

I thought that behavoiur was limited to "social" media and germany, but it seems the whole world is nuts.
People don´t blame their slave masters anymore, but do anything to destroy each other nowadays, heated up by remote controlled puppets like "politicians", the henchmen of the controllers behind the curtain.

And they reached their goal when people don´t care anymore about being enslaved and fight each other instead of the guilty criminals. If people are completely diverted by the political theatrical performance, that just is created to fool the people, to simulate "democracy", to divide them.

Maybe ATS becomes as it was before that Trump/Clinton thing after those US "elections".
Till then i will comment on other threads, but not open an own anymore.
Because i don´t want to write about Trump, Clinton or the Mandela Effect, or post hoax UFO videos from third phase of moon or secure team10 crap, just to make more than two people read my threads...

a reply to: DerBeobachter

Don't bother, who on Ceres cares about the Krauts anyway. Plus it's actually old news nobody wants to hear anymore, especially since the BND and our Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution *giggles* presented us with their outrageous treason during this whole NSU-terror-coverup debacle.

Frankly? I'd consider myself happy if those douchehats would only watch us 24/7. I'm holding high hopes that they don't have the potential to stir up any more serious trouble if they do that with all of us...

Shut 'em down for good and spend those funds on our ruinous education-system or on any other underfunded public service instead. Hospitals for example.

Birdie told me that BND special services' Peter Altmaier, Bruno Kahl and Norbert Stier are thinking about retirement!
I wonder whether they want to retire in peace and go to Bahamas or they wanna retire in pieces.

A german kid, 9 years old was just assassinated by the German Gestapo secret services with name changed to BND.
They used a 19 years old boy, under effect of MKULTRA induced by the BND itself to assassinate this child, as a demonstration of force, against its own citizens, in particular against children.

originally posted by: DerBeobachter
I didn´t know where exactly to put this article, it fits to several forums.
But because all that big brother stuff is excused with "The War On Terror"(TM xD), i guess this forum will fit best for the following article.

I am very happy that Netzpolitik.org decided to translate that article, so i don´t have to try.

From the article:

The German Intelligence Service BND illegally collected and stored its mass surveillance data and has to delete it immediately, including XKeyscore. This is one result of a classified report of the German Federal Data Protection Commissioner that we published. She criticizes serious legal violations and a massive restriction of her supervision authority.
(This is an English translation of the original German reporting, which also includes the full source document.)

When Edward Snowden exposed the global system of mass surveillance by secret services three years ago, including the German foreign intelligence agency BND, the German government tried to shelf it off and declare the case closed. Only one small authority held out: Then-Commissioner for Data Protection Peter Schaar sent his staff on an inspection visit to the joint BND/NSA-station Bad Aibling in southern Germany, of which the BND feared a „very critical public“. The visit resulted in an elaborate „situation report“, but it’s classified „top secret“ and only accessible for few people.

Additionally, the new Data Protection Commissioner Andrea Voßhoff produced a legal analysis of the findings and sent it to the Federal Intelligence Service coordinator in the German Chancellery and former BND president Gerhard Schindler. But this analysis is still classified „secret“ and our Freedom of Information-request has been denied. Media have raised the question „Secret, because embarrassing?“. We have now received this legal analysis and have published the full text of the document (in German).
18 Severe Legal Violations, 12 Official Complaints

This report is indeed embarrassing for BND and Chancellery: On 60 pages, the highest German Data Protection Commissioner lists 18 severe legal violations and files 12 formal complaints. Such a complaint under the German Data Protection Act is the Commissioner’s most severe legal instrument – forcing the authorities to issue a statement in response. This is the first time that a German authority has received this many complaints at once. Usually, the Commissioner files a similar amount of complaints in an entire year – to all federal authorities combined.

The report’s executive summary describes serious violations of the law:

" The BND has illegally and massively restricted my supervision authority on several occasions. A comprehensive and efficient control was not possible.

Contrary to its explicit obligation by law, the BND has created [seven] databases without an establishing order and used them (for many years), thus disregarding fundamental principles of legality. Under current law, the data saved in these databases have to be deleted immediately. They may not be used further.

Although this inspection was only focused on the BND station in Bad Aibling , I found serious legal violations, which are of outstanding importance and concern core areas of the BND’s mission.

The BND has collected personal data without a legal basis und has processed it systematically. The BND’s claim that this information is essential, cannot substitute a missing legal basis. Limitations of fundamental rights always need to be based on law.

German (constitutional) law […] also applies to personal data which the BND has collected abroad and processes domestically. These constitutional restrictions have to be strictly abided by the BND."
Complete Article

Many people may say:
What do you think how S E C R E T Services work? They have to do things in secret. And sometimes they have to do things outside of the laws, to protect us...

That´s where i start to laugh, but it`s an angry, sarcastic laughing. If we people have to follow the constitution and laws of this nation, then EVERYBODY has to do! Otherwise the laws and our constitution are obsolete. And secret services are paid by taxes, so secret services have to work FOR the people, in a normal world. But as we know, they work, at least here in germany, NOT for the GERMAN people, NOT for german interests. They are henchmen of the "USA". Of the NSA, CIA. and all that overseas "three letters agencies". They are all part of the same shadow government. And it´s not a german shadow governments that rules in germany! And the whole story reminds us german tax payers again that we are occupied since 1945.

Even the people, that were not interested in things like mass surveillance, know since Snowden and Co that western secret services act the same like the "evil" eastern secret services. They do the same things to "their own" people. They are not a bit better than those "evil", because not western, secret services and nations that we have to be afraid of, as our propaganda tells us.

And to be honest, if secret services start to spy on their own people(and deliver that data instantly to a[or several] foreign nations secret service), they see "their own" people as enemies. Otherwise that behaviour wouldn´t make any sense! In addition to that fact the whole story shows that "our" secret services are NOT our secret services, that they are remote controlled by NSA and Co, nothing more than devote and simple heelers.

This article is just one little piece of a huge puzzle where many parts are still missing. But that part of the puzzle we could bring together shows us that big brother is out of control, since 9/11. That big brother perceives the people of the western world as enemies, as the next, upcoming terrorists that have to be fought.

Otherwise, everyting we know up to now about the behaviour of the western secret services, wouldn´t make any sense! Why should they do all that against the people they normally should protect? Why do they disregard our laws, our constitution, cut the peoples freedoms (just "to save our laws, constitution, our liberal western lifestyle...)? Like those bearded terrorists in sneakers, that we all have to be afraid of. Their goal is too, as we are told, to destroy our liberal western lifestyle. What a coincidence...

BND director and other Gestapo little helpers are now busy in sexually abusing children and then exposing them to heavy radiation doses across the EU in an attempt to create "Uebermensch" that would be , according to Bruno Kahl, completely and irerversibly controlled by the EU govt, to lead formation of mind controlled migrants in patrols against white Europeans and against Christians and Jews.

originally posted by: Flanker86
BND director and other Gestapo little helpers are now busy in sexually abusing children and then exposing them to heavy radiation doses across the EU in an attempt to create "Uebermensch" that would be , according to Bruno Kahl, completely and irerversibly controlled by the EU govt, to lead formation of mind controlled migrants in patrols against white Europeans and against Christians and Jews.

can you furnish me with evidence of deliberate radiotoxic exposure of children?

after studying the effects of radiation on children in Belarus, the nearest I get to your statement is the x-men franchise!

regards f.

What's the thread title ? ... oh , Gestapo violates laws ? Really ? Who would have imagined that !

The BND is now scaring attempting to scare pople around using imaginary right-wing forces as pretext who are "preparing themselves for the collapse of Germany" ....

That would be full truth weren't for the fact that Germany has already collapsed ... maybe since longer than anyone thinks ! Probably collapsed together with the Berlin wall !

In any case it is about time to see some leaks about these repeated BND threats against civil order using "far-right groups" as scarecrows. Will the leaks show that BND is funding these groups ? ... Will leaks show that these "far right groups" are actually made up of former and current German military personnel and contractors ? ...

who knows !