Disturbing Social Experiment Video - People Are Sheep?

originally posted by: tikbalang
a reply to: makemap

Never, never ever, use Japan as a reference to anything..Cause it makes no sense, yet it is done by just Japanese..

But, the Human lines... Then the Samurai suicide law. What about Karate where everyone must kneel? How about the anime culture? Japan has so many references of slave like system it isn't even funny. Look at Karoshi.

www.reuters.com...

a reply to: makemap

Its just like Sweden, Norway, Iceland and Finland, its cultures with an extremely violent past..

a reply to: tikbalang

I guess they are in Karma for all their wrong doing.

people just don't know , they just dont

a reply to: Realtruth

A real life every day social experiment. The people who drive in the middle lane. Zombie drivers I call them as I use the right curb lane as an express way. People would rather be stuck in a single lane line going no where than to take a risk of getting caught behind a parked car or someone turning left. I can tell who the free thinkers are once I zip past and check my rear mirror.

The thing that scares me the most about conformity, it has no set definition. What defines conforming to the normal changes and these days can change very quickly with the added help of things going "viral"

One of the bad things about conforming is, It can be manipulated so easily when you have the abilities to make what ever you "want" go viral.

I wouldn't have stood up when everyone else did. I would have asked them why they were they doing it. I don't know of anyone else who would have followed along blindly either.

a reply to: ketsuko

Standing up and down because everyone else is and there is no real reason not to ... who cares?

The social experiment demonstrated in the OP is an example of "Herd Behaviour" which we all participate in some way, shape, or form.

Herd behavior describes how individuals in a group can act collectively without centralized direction. The term can refer to the behavior of animals in herds, packs, bird flocks, fish schools and so on, as well as the behavior of humans in demonstrations, riots and general strikes, sporting events, religious gatherings, episodes of mob violence and everyday decision-making, judgement and opinion-forming.

en.wikipedia.org...

Understanding the dynamics of the herd instinct can be used to manipulate society (engineering of consent) via propaganda in many different ways. Advertisers, world leaders, business leaders, politicians, religious leaders, etc have been aware of the herd mentality and exploited it for centuries.

Women’s smoking:

As a practical example of Edward Bernays’ theory, detailed in his essay, George Washington Hill, president of the American Tobacco Company, hired Edward Bernays in 1928 to lead a campaign to entice more women to smoke in public.[6] The campaign is believed to have helped converting attitudes towards women’s smoking from a social taboo to a more socially acceptable act.[6] Bernays did this by associating women’s smoking with the ideas of “power” and “freedom” which he did by using the slogan “Torches of Freedom” during a famous parade in New York City.

The idea of “Engineering of Consent” was motivated by Freud’s idea that humans are irrational beings and are motivated primarily by inner desires hidden in their unconscious. If one understood what those unconscious desires were, then one could use this to one’s advantage to sell products and increase sales.

en.wikipedia.org...

Thank you for reminding me of the Milgram Experiment. The sad reality is there are far too many people in this world who accept authority as truth instead of truth as authority. This is why people allow media to influence their world views among other things.

IMO, something like this is a truer test of how strong you really are. Can you resist an authority figure even when you know what you're doing is wrong and causing someone else terrible pain, even possible death?

This is a question every soldier, past and present, should be asked. Those people seem to be the most easiest to manipulate in society - socially engineer. Most soldiers do not even realize it either. Perfect candidates (pawns) for the military industrial complex - war machine.

I don't want to be controversial here but.....

Look at victim #1 - psychologically profiled to be the most vulnerable and likely to conform in group activity. (Age, gender, race)

Victim #2 - psychologically profiled to follow her lead because he is insecure (Age, sexuality)

You only need a couple to start it and the rest will follow.

Put a grumpy old war vet with a walking stick as the first person in there and let me see if the results are the same.

Just saying.

originally posted by: Realtruth
Are we all like this, in our daily lives?

I'm 100% not. I have no care in the world for what anyone else does or thinks. Never have. It has zero effect on me. I guarantee you I'd be sitting there while everyone else stands.

a reply to: Realtruth

kind of like when people change their FaceBook profile picture so it's a flag?

a reply to: Involutionist

Yes, I understand that. My point is that some herd behavior is harmful and some is not. The real question is whether or not one is aware of one's participation in it and why.

For example, I could say that I participate every morning in a mass herd behavior ritual called the morning commute. Drive one route long enough and you can quickly tell who is used to the route and who isn't. When everyone on the drive is used to the route and drives it the "herd" way, things tend to actually be better and smoother than when you have a bunch of people who do not know the drive etiquette. Things get clogged up.

So should I break the rules of my commute this morning and screw everyone else up and myself just to prove I am not a member of the "herd?"

I don't think I will. It's not worth it.

Now if my participation in the herd behavior was leading me to drive off a cliff or to some other certain destruction ... well, no, it's not worth it.

Here's what I find interesting about all the comments so far, including my own perspective, and looking at myself in the mirror very critically, we are all just like the video in the OP.

Let me explain a bit further, as to why I believe we are just like the people in the OP video. As much as our ego's won't allow us to see, we many times act very similar as the people in the video, in our daily lives, without even realizing it.

Examples:

1) Clothes styles we wear
2) Newer phones
3) Newer Cars
4) Bigger Houses
5) Cutting our grass the same length or style, as our neighbors
6) Going to the same job day, after day many times miserable in our existence there
7) Going to a religious function, and practicing rituals
8) Hair styles
9) Peer pressure to drink at a party
10) The ways we interact at certain public events
11) The way we eat our meals
12) The way we shop
13) Landscaping around/in our homes, and the way we decorate is highly influenced by our society.
14) And the absolute classic is.............................Facebook.


As much as we want to believe we aren't monkey see, monkey do, and that we don't follow because of social pressures, unfortunately we do.

Exerpt

"Lions do not lose sleep over the opinion of Sheep

The life of a Sheep is easier than that of a lion.
Sheep are given food and water freely by their shepherd, protected from predators and threats by shelters they did not build.

But these comforts bind the sheep into slavery ......

....... Lions have no masters. Though the lion must hunt for it's food and search for it's own shelter, it is free to roam where it desires and requires permission from no one.........." Illuminati

originally posted by: KevinIsZebraman
PEOPLE ARE SHEEPLE!

People who call people sheeple are sheeple.

a reply to: ketsuko

Yes, I understand that. My point is that some herd behavior is harmful and some is not. The real question is whether or not one is aware of one's participation in it and why.

I agree, not all herd behaviour is harmful. My point was, as I stated in my previous response to you: The social experiment demonstrated in the OP is an example of "Herd Behaviour" which we all participate in some way, shape, or form. Therefore, it is not always a bad thing to go with the flow.

For example, I could say that I participate every morning in a mass herd behavior ritual called the morning commute. Drive one route long enough and you can quickly tell who is used to the route and who isn't. When everyone on the drive is used to the route and drives it the "herd" way, things tend to actually be better and smoother than when you have a bunch of people who do not know the drive etiquette. Things get clogged up.

I agree, we are *conditioned* to adapt to basic driving principles which the intention is to form common driving etiquette to enable a smoother less chaotic commute. Traffic laws are also put in place to *reinforce* this conditioning. However, using daily commute as an example of herd behaviour shows a slight misunderstanding of what the concept actually encompasses.

So should I break the rules of my commute this morning and screw everyone else up and myself just to prove I am not a member of the "herd?"

Again, your thought process (understanding) really has nothing to do with the philosophy or concept of herd behaviour.

The philosophers Søren Kierkegaard and Friedrich Nietzsche were among the first to criticize what they referred to as "the crowd" (Kierkegaard) and "herd morality" and the "herd instinct" (Nietzsche) in human society. Modern psychological and economic research has identified herd behavior in humans to explain the phenomena of large numbers of people acting in the same way at the same time.

Understanding HOW fashion trends; consumer consumption habits; political affiliations; geopolitical worldviews; social concerns; and religious beliefs arise; will better demonstrate what constitutes herd behaviour than the daily commuting example.

Now if my participation in the herd behavior was leading me to drive off a cliff or to some other certain destruction ... well, no, it's not worth it.

Poetically speaking: most daily commuters have indeed driven themselves off a cliff due to allowing their herd instincts to become exploited.

*Most* people end up daily commuters (employees/corporate slaves) because of being engineered (conditioned) to do so by exploiting the herd mentality from an early age through the educational school system. Thus, most of these daily commuters possess the same lifestyle (economic class) and social habits as most others.



I agree: It's not worth it.

Common paths arise from following the herd which often leads to common destinations. One should learn to carve out their own paths. It usually leads to a abundantly free life.

a reply to: Realtruth

I think you missed the easy pickins one:

Pokémon Go!

[ETA: ATS link: Pokemon stampede]

if legit and not stage-managed, that's very sad. i instinctively go against the grain myself.

a reply to: Realtruth

I see how this could happen, but I'm just not sold on the authenticity of this having been a real "hidden camera" show. Look at the cuts in and out, close ups on the face, panning up and down and the multiple camera angles. I couldn't find any other information on where this video came from, who the participants were etc. It would have been nice to maybe interview the "unsuspecting" participants afterwards, ask them questions and have their names posted on the screen. It just seems like a highly staged and scripted production to me. Plus, I've been to many eye/doctors clinics and usually people pick the seat furthest from everyone else not directly between the only 2 people seated, plus you'll usually have people getting up and down milling about looking at glasses etc. Since I can't find anything else out about the video though, my theory is just that.

Also at 2:48 is that a microphone on a stand directly behind the receptionist? It wasn't visible in the other shots...so how did it get there, and when? Would that not be somewhat obvious to the unsuspecting participants if someone brought a mic and a stand into the office?

The clinic in the show is called Xenia Eye Clinic. I did find a Green County Eyecare in Xenia Ohio. Looking at the building though from the inside the windows at least what can be seen from the road, doesn't match what you see on the inside of the building.

Anyways, so if it IS fake...who does it benefit to have us all thinking we are sheep and reinforcing that idea.

originally posted by: seeker11

Anyways, so if it IS fake...who does it benefit to have us all thinking we are sheep and reinforcing that idea.

I think knowing that we mimic behaviors because of social pressure, or fear is good for self awareness, and possibly changing things to empower ourselves.

I don't believe we are sheep, but we have the tendencies as a whole to lean that way.