Reasons no to vote for Hillary "rodham" Clinton

originally posted by: ssenerawa
a reply to: Gryphon66

Good to know breaking state and federal laws, war crimes, and plus lying under oath is just propaganda and garbage. Thanks

Well, at least you learned something.

Why don't you spend some time doing research outside the right-wing echo chamber? Hillary Clinton has been chased for 20 or more years, literally MILLIONS of taxpayer dollars have been wasted trying to hook something negative to her, and the most any one can actually say with evidence about her is that she did what the last two Secretaries of State did, what many members of Congress do, etc. etc. etc.

What's the result? No convictions, no finding of wrong-doing, etc. etc. etc.

If she is a criminal, she's the smartest one that's ever existed.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: ssenerawa
a reply to: Gryphon66

Good to know breaking state and federal laws, war crimes, and plus lying under oath is just propaganda and garbage. Thanks

Well, at least you learned something.

Why don't you spend some time doing research outside the right-wing echo chamber? Hillary Clinton has been chased for 20 or more years, literally MILLIONS of taxpayer dollars have been wasted trying to hook something negative to her, and the most any one can actually say with evidence about her is that she did what the last two Secretaries of State did, what many members of Congress do, etc. etc. etc.

What's the result? No convictions, no finding of wrong-doing, etc. etc. etc.

If she is a criminal, she's the smartest one that's ever existed.

"say with evidence about her is that she did what the last two Secretaries of State did,"

You got any links that prove any previous SoS's had a private server and email account in their house?

She isn't a smart criminal..... no one would know if she was a smart criminal.... most criminals are stupid at one point...that's how they get caught and then are officially criminals.

originally posted by: RickinVa

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: ssenerawa
a reply to: Gryphon66

Good to know breaking state and federal laws, war crimes, and plus lying under oath is just propaganda and garbage. Thanks

Well, at least you learned something.

Why don't you spend some time doing research outside the right-wing echo chamber? Hillary Clinton has been chased for 20 or more years, literally MILLIONS of taxpayer dollars have been wasted trying to hook something negative to her, and the most any one can actually say with evidence about her is that she did what the last two Secretaries of State did, what many members of Congress do, etc. etc. etc.

What's the result? No convictions, no finding of wrong-doing, etc. etc. etc.

If she is a criminal, she's the smartest one that's ever existed.

"say with evidence about her is that she did what the last two Secretaries of State did,"

You got any links that prove any previous SoS's had a private server and email account in their house?

The last two Secretaries used non-governmental emails. As do many members of Congress today.

If you are unaware of this well-known fact, Google is your friend.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: RickinVa

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: ssenerawa
a reply to: Gryphon66

Good to know breaking state and federal laws, war crimes, and plus lying under oath is just propaganda and garbage. Thanks

Well, at least you learned something.

Why don't you spend some time doing research outside the right-wing echo chamber? Hillary Clinton has been chased for 20 or more years, literally MILLIONS of taxpayer dollars have been wasted trying to hook something negative to her, and the most any one can actually say with evidence about her is that she did what the last two Secretaries of State did, what many members of Congress do, etc. etc. etc.

What's the result? No convictions, no finding of wrong-doing, etc. etc. etc.

If she is a criminal, she's the smartest one that's ever existed.

"say with evidence about her is that she did what the last two Secretaries of State did,"

You got any links that prove any previous SoS's had a private server and email account in their house?

The last two Secretaries used non-governmental emails. As do many members of Congress today.

If you are unaware of this well-known fact, Google is your friend.

I am not talking about AOL,Yahoo. Gmail. etc... you know this...

You are deflecting as usual..

There is zero (0) proof of any other SoS having classified emails on a non government system that were classified at the time they were sent like dear ole Hillary, that is an undeniable fact my misguided friend.

originally posted by: RickinVa

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: RickinVa

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: ssenerawa
a reply to: Gryphon66

Good to know breaking state and federal laws, war crimes, and plus lying under oath is just propaganda and garbage. Thanks

Well, at least you learned something.

Why don't you spend some time doing research outside the right-wing echo chamber? Hillary Clinton has been chased for 20 or more years, literally MILLIONS of taxpayer dollars have been wasted trying to hook something negative to her, and the most any one can actually say with evidence about her is that she did what the last two Secretaries of State did, what many members of Congress do, etc. etc. etc.

What's the result? No convictions, no finding of wrong-doing, etc. etc. etc.

If she is a criminal, she's the smartest one that's ever existed.

"say with evidence about her is that she did what the last two Secretaries of State did,"

You got any links that prove any previous SoS's had a private server and email account in their house?

The last two Secretaries used non-governmental emails. As do many members of Congress today.

If you are unaware of this well-known fact, Google is your friend.

I am not talking about AOL,Yahoo. Gmail. etc... you know this...

You are deflecting as usual..


Name one SOS that had a private email server. You can't so stop the BS and deflection and stick to the darn topic.

Nope, no deflection, merely facts. As usual.

Who cares what you're "talking about" in your own mind. You asked a question, you got an answer.

There's nothing illegal about having a server in your basement.

As usual, you're desperately trying to construct a strawman argument and troll other posters. Stop it.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: RickinVa

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: RickinVa

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: ssenerawa
a reply to: Gryphon66

Good to know breaking state and federal laws, war crimes, and plus lying under oath is just propaganda and garbage. Thanks

Well, at least you learned something.

Why don't you spend some time doing research outside the right-wing echo chamber? Hillary Clinton has been chased for 20 or more years, literally MILLIONS of taxpayer dollars have been wasted trying to hook something negative to her, and the most any one can actually say with evidence about her is that she did what the last two Secretaries of State did, what many members of Congress do, etc. etc. etc.

What's the result? No convictions, no finding of wrong-doing, etc. etc. etc.

If she is a criminal, she's the smartest one that's ever existed.

"say with evidence about her is that she did what the last two Secretaries of State did,"

You got any links that prove any previous SoS's had a private server and email account in their house?

The last two Secretaries used non-governmental emails. As do many members of Congress today.

If you are unaware of this well-known fact, Google is your friend.

I am not talking about AOL,Yahoo. Gmail. etc... you know this...

You are deflecting as usual..


Name one SOS that had a private email server. You can't so stop the BS and deflection and stick to the darn topic.

Nope, no deflection, merely facts. As usual.

Who cares what you're "talking about" in your own mind. You asked a question, you got an answer.

There's nothing illegal about having a server in your basement.

As usual, you're desperately trying to construct a strawman argument and troll other posters. Stop it.

You are full of what comes out of the south end of a north bound male bovine. It's always illegal to have classified information on an unclassified server.... you have no argument. Have a good day.... not going to lecture you again on classified information, the NSA or the EO... I can provide links for anyone who wishes to read, about how you were shown to be wrong last time about classified information.

You just left that conversation and were proven to be a liar... would you like for me to post a link to that thread?

originally posted by: RickinVa

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: RickinVa

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: RickinVa

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: ssenerawa
a reply to: Gryphon66

Good to know breaking state and federal laws, war crimes, and plus lying under oath is just propaganda and garbage. Thanks

Well, at least you learned something.

Why don't you spend some time doing research outside the right-wing echo chamber? Hillary Clinton has been chased for 20 or more years, literally MILLIONS of taxpayer dollars have been wasted trying to hook something negative to her, and the most any one can actually say with evidence about her is that she did what the last two Secretaries of State did, what many members of Congress do, etc. etc. etc.

What's the result? No convictions, no finding of wrong-doing, etc. etc. etc.

If she is a criminal, she's the smartest one that's ever existed.

"say with evidence about her is that she did what the last two Secretaries of State did,"

You got any links that prove any previous SoS's had a private server and email account in their house?

The last two Secretaries used non-governmental emails. As do many members of Congress today.

If you are unaware of this well-known fact, Google is your friend.

I am not talking about AOL,Yahoo. Gmail. etc... you know this...

You are deflecting as usual..


Name one SOS that had a private email server. You can't so stop the BS and deflection and stick to the darn topic.

Nope, no deflection, merely facts. As usual.

Who cares what you're "talking about" in your own mind. You asked a question, you got an answer.

There's nothing illegal about having a server in your basement.

As usual, you're desperately trying to construct a strawman argument and troll other posters. Stop it.

You are full of what comes out of the south end of a north bound male bovine. It's always illegal to have classified information on an unclassified server.... you have no argument.

And as usual, you offer nothing except your own silly opinions. I'm full of it? LOL, you can't even say the word.

So, you're saying that AOL, Gmail, etc. are classified servers now?

You're proving my point, and you don't even realize it.

Keep up.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: RickinVa

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: RickinVa

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: RickinVa

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: ssenerawa
a reply to: Gryphon66

Good to know breaking state and federal laws, war crimes, and plus lying under oath is just propaganda and garbage. Thanks

Well, at least you learned something.

Why don't you spend some time doing research outside the right-wing echo chamber? Hillary Clinton has been chased for 20 or more years, literally MILLIONS of taxpayer dollars have been wasted trying to hook something negative to her, and the most any one can actually say with evidence about her is that she did what the last two Secretaries of State did, what many members of Congress do, etc. etc. etc.

What's the result? No convictions, no finding of wrong-doing, etc. etc. etc.

If she is a criminal, she's the smartest one that's ever existed.

"say with evidence about her is that she did what the last two Secretaries of State did,"

You got any links that prove any previous SoS's had a private server and email account in their house?

The last two Secretaries used non-governmental emails. As do many members of Congress today.

If you are unaware of this well-known fact, Google is your friend.

I am not talking about AOL,Yahoo. Gmail. etc... you know this...

You are deflecting as usual..


Name one SOS that had a private email server. You can't so stop the BS and deflection and stick to the darn topic.

Nope, no deflection, merely facts. As usual.

Who cares what you're "talking about" in your own mind. You asked a question, you got an answer.

There's nothing illegal about having a server in your basement.

As usual, you're desperately trying to construct a strawman argument and troll other posters. Stop it.

You are full of what comes out of the south end of a north bound male bovine. It's always illegal to have classified information on an unclassified server.... you have no argument.

And as usual, you offer nothing except your own silly opinions. I'm full of it? LOL, you can't even say the word.

So, you're saying that AOL, Gmail, etc. are classified servers now?

You're proving my point, and you don't even realize it.

Keep up.

AOL and Gmail are not classified servers and you damn well know this.

I know where you are going so stop,,, it is BS.


The emails from Powell and Rice were RETROACTIVELY classified after being removed from the public archives of the State Department where they had been available to the public for years.... meeting the requirement to truly be called retroactively classified.

NO one can ever be prosecuted for retroactively classified information.

a reply to: RickinVa

None of the information in Clinton's emails was classified at the time they were sent to or from her email.

Seriously, listen to something besides Fox and Breitbart for a change.

You, like the OP here, are doing nothing more than perpetuating the right-wing media tripe about Clinton. And of course, your usual attempts to spin the conversation by inserting your own "facts."

The charge, if there was one, would be mishandling classified information, not how one mishandled it (which email server one used.)

The erstwhile topic here is all the "reasons" why someone shouldn't vote for Clinton, one of which is supposed illegal emails.

I refuted that, as the others have all been refuted, numerous times.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: RickinVa

None of the information in Clinton's emails were classified at the time they were sent to or from her email.

Seriously, listen to something besides Fox and Breitbart for a change.

You, like the OP here, are doing nothing more than perpetuating the right-wing media tripe about Clinton. And of course, your usual attempts to spin the conversation by inserting your own "facts."

The charge, if there was one, would be mishandling classified information, not how one mishandled it (which email server one used.)

The erstwhile topic here is all the "reasons" why someone shouldn't vote for Clinton, one of which is supposed illegal emails.

I refuted that, as the others have all been refuted, numerous times.

"None of the information in Clinton's emails were classified at the time they were sent to or from her email."

That is a straight out lie.. Yes I said it... you are a LIAR for saying that.... it is a totally 100% false statement and the end of this conversation.


The director of the FBI disagrees with your assessment.... sorry... nice try.

a reply to: Gryphon66

None of the information in Clinton's emails was classified at the time they were sent to or from her email.

a reply to: RickinVa

Last response, as you're merely doing the same trolling you usually do ...

FBI Director Admits that Zero Clinton Emails Were Marked Classifed

On July 7, the FBI director, called by congressional Republicans to testify as to why he had concluded “no charges are appropriate” against Clinton for her use of a private server, provided more details about his statement that a few emails “bore markings indicating the presence of classified information," further undermining media efforts to scandalize that comment.

Without commenting on the substance of the emails, which Kirby had already explained were inappropriately marked “confidential,” the director further clarified that this mistaken attempt to mark the emails classified was incorrectly performed. In fact, Comey agreed with Rep. Matt Cartwright (D-PA) that without a required header indicating the email with a "(C)" notation was “marked classified,” it would be a “reasonable inference” that even an “expert at what is classified and what's not classified” would not have realized the email was classified. From the director’s July 7 testimony:

Factcheck.org

Etc. etc. etc.

a reply to: ssenerawa

Well Atleast she isn't a proven liar




Ahh yeah about that, well Atleast the Clinton family doesn't have a history of lying.



Well Atleast the Clinton's haven't demonstrated that they have no respect for the law or immoral behavior. It's not like they would speak to the attorney general while under a criminal investigation in secret. Nor would hillary ever hire a disgraced DNC leader that helped rig the system for her after shamefully being forced to resigned.

Atleast the FBI has the utmost of confidence on her keeping state secrets.

a reply to: JinMI

Ah ... a self-titled Youtube video.

See above for Director Comey's actual comments about the supposedly "classified" emails.

Next?

a reply to: interupt42

First link doesn't work.

Second link has nothing to do with the actions of Hillary Clinton.

Next?

a reply to: Gryphon66

So then Comey lied to Congress?

ETA: So I read your links. Comey doesn't retract his statement in the video I linked. The title is inconsequential. Your links do not provide evidence to the contrary.
.....next...?/?

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: RickinVa

Last response, as you're merely doing the same trolling you usually do ...

FBI Director Admits that Zero Clinton Emails Were Marked Classifed

On July 7, the FBI director, called by congressional Republicans to testify as to why he had concluded “no charges are appropriate” against Clinton for her use of a private server, provided more details about his statement that a few emails “bore markings indicating the presence of classified information," further undermining media efforts to scandalize that comment.

Without commenting on the substance of the emails, which Kirby had already explained were inappropriately marked “confidential,” the director further clarified that this mistaken attempt to mark the emails classified was incorrectly performed. In fact, Comey agreed with Rep. Matt Cartwright (D-PA) that without a required header indicating the email with a "(C)" notation was “marked classified,” it would be a “reasonable inference” that even an “expert at what is classified and what's not classified” would not have realized the email was classified. From the director’s July 7 testimony:

Factcheck.org

Etc. etc. etc.

You just don't understand that classified information may be marked or unmarked as agreed to by Hillary Clinton when she signed her SF 312.

Again... You are a LIAR to say that no information was classified when sent or received by Hillary Clinton... I will stand by that all day long. So will the Director of the FBI. Can I possibly say that any clearer to you?

originally posted by: RickinVa

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: RickinVa

Last response, as you're merely doing the same trolling you usually do ...

FBI Director Admits that Zero Clinton Emails Were Marked Classifed

On July 7, the FBI director, called by congressional Republicans to testify as to why he had concluded “no charges are appropriate” against Clinton for her use of a private server, provided more details about his statement that a few emails “bore markings indicating the presence of classified information," further undermining media efforts to scandalize that comment.

Without commenting on the substance of the emails, which Kirby had already explained were inappropriately marked “confidential,” the director further clarified that this mistaken attempt to mark the emails classified was incorrectly performed. In fact, Comey agreed with Rep. Matt Cartwright (D-PA) that without a required header indicating the email with a "(C)" notation was “marked classified,” it would be a “reasonable inference” that even an “expert at what is classified and what's not classified” would not have realized the email was classified. From the director’s July 7 testimony:

Factcheck.org

Etc. etc. etc.

You just don't understand that classified information may be marked or unmarked as agreed to by Hillary Clinton when she signed her SF 312.

Again... You are a LIAR to say that no information was classified when sent or received by Hillary Clinton... I will stand by that all day long. So will the Director of the FBI.

Yep, you failed in your claim so it's time to move those goalposts.

You've been quoted back the words of the FBI Director. You've been shown that your argument is nonsense, as usual.

We're done. Keep on blustering.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: interupt42

First link doesn't work.

Second link has nothing to do with the actions of Hillary Clinton.

Next?

Check again and being that she has demonstrated pathological traits of lying and bill is her husband who was impeached for lying says a lot about that family.

The view is much clearer not having ones head in the sand.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: ssenerawa
a reply to: Gryphon66

Good to know breaking state and federal laws, war crimes, and plus lying under oath is just propaganda and garbage. Thanks

Well, at least you learned something.

Why don't you spend some time doing research outside the right-wing echo chamber? Hillary Clinton has been chased for 20 or more years, literally MILLIONS of taxpayer dollars have been wasted trying to hook something negative to her, and the most any one can actually say with evidence about her is that she did what the last two Secretaries of State did, what many members of Congress do, etc. etc. etc.

What's the result? No convictions, no finding of wrong-doing, etc. etc. etc.

If she is a criminal, she's the smartest one that's ever existed.

Actually she is the stupidest, or second stupidest if you count Obama.

EXCEPT she is as everyone knows, very well connected, and that is why she walks right past prosecution. Only the most blind and the most morally bankrupt people would support such a person, but history proves there are tons of morally bankrupt people in the world.