Did Trump Forge That Doctor's Letter?

I don't even know what this is about and I guess I don't care. This is just another absolutely stupid thing to focus on instead of real issues. And we wonder why we have these two pieces of crap to choose from in this election. I just don't get it. I think I want off this ride.

a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

Honestly, I think you're subconsciously talking about Hillary, not Trump. JS...
This a load of hyped-up nonsense that has zero to do with anything important. So, as Hillary would say, why does it matter?

originally posted by: spiritualzombie
You go to them with forged doctor's note and they just stare with blank cow eyes. As long as he still promises to forcibly deport the Mexicans and ban the Muslims it's all good in their mind.

well said. like spiritualzombie said :

"Of course that wouldn't matter to his supporters... They're hoping for a guy who has no morals, willing to destroy families and break international law... so a simple forgery, that's to be expected...."

imho , Trumps immigration view is bit foolish. at one point in time(unless your native American)everyone of western/eastern European heritage's ancestors were migrants/immigrants on this land. also, wasn't Reagan a republican? didn't he issue amnesty In his time ? and when he did, didn't the economy rise? if any candidate proposed a comprehensible amnesty, then the economy and society will rise to a better level imho

a reply to: SentientCentenarian
Sentient,

This is one of the best posts I've read in a long time. You present the topic at hand and then provide evidence to fully validate each point made. Well done indeed.

S & F
Timidgal

a reply to: SentientCentenarian

By the look of that "doctor"...I wonder if he didnt forge his own credentials! Odd fellow...

originally posted by: SentientCentenarian

originally posted by: JAY1980
Care to discuss the fact Trump doesn't drink alcohol or smoke cigarettes? Or is that not part of your crafted narrative? Sorry to shatter that.

Doctors note aside those 2 facts alone tells me he's probably healthier than Obama and he's got 15 years on the man. Now his health compared to Hillary? There would be no contest. She needs help up a flight of 10 stairs and Trump can still make it up a 45 degree incline while golfing.

He SAYS he doesn't drink alcohol or smoke cigarettes. No mention of other drugs, which people are starting to be suspicious about. Normal people don't need only a few hours of sleep and have the attention span of a goldfish. The Hillary helped up the stairs video was in February, the stairs were reportedly icy, and she was wearing high heels as well as a heavy bullet proof vest. You'd need help too under the circumstances. Again, I'm not in favor of Hillary but lies are lies and making shyte up is making shyte up. Aren't you going to mention that phantom 'lesion' on her tongue, or did you realize at some point it was a cough lozenge?

And that wasn't 'Trump making it up a 45 degree incline', he fell down in that pic. Whatever happened to his heel spurs?

It's obvious just looking at him that Trump is very overweight, rarely exercises (it's been reported he walks from the limo to the podium and back again, and that's it); comparing an overweight fast food devouring 70 year old to Obama (see the other thread posted minutes before this one for pictures) is ridiculous. Trump is a heart attack or stroke waiting to happen.

Hmmm well guess that makes me not normal as well, I only get 3 hours a night too. I have been this way as long as I can remember, I thought I was not normal until I went to see a doctor about my "problem" when I was about 19 years old, I'm now 35. He wasn't concerned and it's normal for people to have varying sleeping patterns.

There is even evidence to suggest that 8 hours straight is not normal or healthy, people used to wake in the night after 4 hours and stay awake for an hour or two then grab another 4 hours. The point is that normal is subjective or just doesn't really exist.

I think I seem to function okay btw, people around me think I am weird and don't sleep but I'm not and I do! XD

8 hours sleep myth

I looked in-depth at everything you said and pointed to. You're claiming that because the letterhead isn't what you expected, and because of a website listed on the letterhead, that somehow it was forged. That's quite a stretch of the imagination. The doctor already admitted it was written in a hurry, and in a tongue-in-cheek style to match Trump's style. (speaking of tongues lets not forget he's not the one with a gaping hole in his tongue)
There's absolutely no basis in your claim of forgery. I wanted to know the truth here so I took the time to look at what you were saying. The more obvious answer is that it was typed out by anybody but signed by the doctor. It doesn't matter who typed it or in what format as long as he signed it. Show me some evidence of forgery and you might have something. I see nothing pointing to forgery.

Most of his interviews are called in - all those early morning Fox and MSNBC linkups.

And I don't support Hillary at all, a fact you might have noticed if you had paid attention to the thread before posting.

And is no one allowed to 'chime in' unless they've been on the site for a certain amount of time? Must make it hard to get one's post count up, then...

originally posted by: sirlancelot

originally posted by: DelMarvel

originally posted by: sirlancelot
If we are talking about health and I look at who is out there mixing it up with people all across the country then Trump wins hands down!

Seriously like him or not he is all over. Coast to Coast and now even on short notice in Mexico!

Two points here: Trump, his surrogates and the entire right wing echo chamber are engaged in a long running disinformation campaign impugning Clinton's health. However, while she has released actual details about her physical condition (including medication she is on) all we have from him is this laughably sketchy letter from a dubious doctor. For starters, are we to believe a 70 year old billionaire is not on any medication at all?

Secondly--yeah, he seems very robust for a man of seventy. However, he is still a man of seventy. The fact that he seems vigorous now means nothing. He could keel over tomorrow from something that might be apparent to an honest and trustworthy examining physician.

Ok true but meanwhile the only other option, Hillary hardly is out there at all. Has had several medical observers show concern about her neurological issue's and behaviors. Hillary has had a brain issue and is on cumadian and strong blood thinner. SO if you wanna compare health I'd say Hillary is most likely to kick the bucket of atleast be unable to perform the actions of our next potus.

It's spelled 'Coumadin' and that *is* the blood thinner...

She has had no seizures videotaped whatsoever, and anyone who thinks they have video evidence of one is sorely mistaken. Anyone can appear laughable for a few seconds when they're under scrutiny 24/7. You've managed, and we don't even have a camera on you.

As far as Hillary kicking the bucket, that's what VPs are for. So what? Good riddance, although I'm not keen on Kaine, either. Knowing the Dem's they'd probably put BC in there again, in between nap attacks.

Again, I don't support Hillary. As many posters more able than myself have pointed out, a post questioning Trump's veracity and honesty in no way is to be considered a counter supporting post of Hillary.

originally posted by: AreUKiddingMe
I looked in-depth at everything you said and pointed to. You're claiming that because the letterhead isn't what you expected, and because of a website listed on the letterhead, that somehow it was forged. That's quite a stretch of the imagination. The doctor already admitted it was written in a hurry, and in a tongue-in-cheek style to match Trump's style. (speaking of tongues lets not forget he's not the one with a gaping hole in his tongue)
There's absolutely no basis in your claim of forgery. I wanted to know the truth here so I took the time to look at what you were saying. The more obvious answer is that it was typed out by anybody but signed by the doctor. It doesn't matter who typed it or in what format as long as he signed it. Show me some evidence of forgery and you might have something. I see nothing pointing to forgery.

Well, first off, the 'gaping hole in the tongue' thing is an OBVIOUS cough drop. So much for the websites you frequent, and your own powers of observation. Do you really think Hillary could have a tumor excision of her TONGUE and continue talking and being seen in public afterwards, without a single second picture of that same 'gaping hole' being taken? Gaping holes have a tendency to bleed and stuff. See any of that? I didn't think so. But GeezeLouise, we've seen her again and again stopping to unwrap a cough drop. Because she's talking nonstop and spending her days on airplanes and in a different location every day, shaking thousands of hands and trying to ward off colds. Natural enough.

Yes, I'm losing patience with you people.

I documented the evidence of forgery - and by that I mean, Trump obviously wrote that, had the doctor sign it, and must have either paid the doctor off to look the fool, or he's under blackmail threat of some kind, like Donald has been doing drugs supplied by the not-so-good doctor for probably decades now. It would explain some of his behavior patterns all too well.

An important letter such as a testament of health for your most famous patient who announced months before that he was running for the Presidency of the United States isn't something you cook up 'in five minutes' while the limo is waiting. Nor is it something you farm out to the lowliest clerk in your office, like a filing job. And I got news for you, a qualified competent board certified internist/gastroenterologist (grand total about four years of college, four years of medical school and several more years of internship and specialty training) doesn't get rattled by a limo waiting downstairs and being rushed a bit. God forbid if that's all it takes to 'make him anxious' - which again raises the specter of drug use by the doctor.

originally posted by: mysterioustranger
a reply to: SentientCentenarian

By the look of that "doctor"...I wonder if he didnt forge his own credentials! Odd fellow...

Funny you should mention that:

Trump doctor forged credentials...

I'd give him mere weeks before his days of being a doctor are over. The local credentialing societies cannot ignore this.

Is this thread questioning the health of the candidate who has visited 3 cities, 2 countries, and met with the President of Mexico, in Mexico, all within the past 24 hours?

originally posted by: SentientCentenarian

originally posted by: AreUKiddingMe
I looked in-depth at everything you said and pointed to. You're claiming that because the letterhead isn't what you expected, and because of a website listed on the letterhead, that somehow it was forged. That's quite a stretch of the imagination. The doctor already admitted it was written in a hurry, and in a tongue-in-cheek style to match Trump's style. (speaking of tongues lets not forget he's not the one with a gaping hole in his tongue)
There's absolutely no basis in your claim of forgery. I wanted to know the truth here so I took the time to look at what you were saying. The more obvious answer is that it was typed out by anybody but signed by the doctor. It doesn't matter who typed it or in what format as long as he signed it. Show me some evidence of forgery and you might have something. I see nothing pointing to forgery.

Yes, I'm losing patience with you people.

I documented the evidence of forgery - and by that I mean, Trump obviously wrote that, had the doctor sign it,

You just destroyed your whole premise by your own words. Look up the definition of forgery if you don't know what it means.dictionary.law.com...

originally posted by: carewemust
Is this thread questioning the health of the candidate who has visited 3 cities, 2 countries, and met with the President of Mexico, in Mexico, all within the past 24 hours?

Yes.

Are you claiming Trump ran across these three cities? Is meeting the President of Mexico considered an endorsement of being "astonishingly excellent"?

How about you try and rebuttal the obviously forged letter or his Dr's forged credentials.

Unless you want to stick with the "Trumps private plane flew him to 3 different places, he must be healthy" rubbish.

originally posted by: AreUKiddingMe
You just destroyed your whole premise by your own words. Look up the definition of forgery if you don't know what it means.dictionary.law.com...

I think YOU should probably read the definition again.

originally posted by: SentientCentenarian
That a billionaire would trust his health to someone so borderline strains credulity, but then again, it's Trump.

So what huge medical problems must Trump be hiding, claiming that letter shows he is healthy?

I'm beginning to come to the conclusion that Trump is an addict, probably diet drugs that have long since ceased to work and that Bornstein is his supplier.

Thus, he has the MD over a barrel and on his payroll, with everything to lose by not 'attesting to Mr. Trump's perfect health';
a secondary issue is, what is Trump hiding by not being seen by a real doctor who can submit a real certificate of health appropriate to the demands of the job he's applying for? For one thing, nobody has had the opportunity to test him for illicit drug use or inappropriate pharmaceutical use, or note the elevated blood pressure and heart rate (and impending heart attack) that would accompany a 70 year old man who was addicted to stimulants...

Harold Bornstein just kissed a 30+ year career down the tubes, and his standing within the community, as well as made himself a laughingstock globally. You don't do that without some form of either remuneration, or blackmail.

We know nothing about Trump's health but what we see everyday on the road with him; and that obviously has millions of people scared witless; not about his physical health, but his mental health and stability.

a reply to: SentientCentenarian

To quote Hillary

"What differane does it make now?"

originally posted by: dismanrc
a reply to: SentientCentenarian

To quote Hillary

"What differane does it make now?"

Firstly I don't believe she said "differane".

Secondly, why do you think a Hillary quote is applicable when talking about Donald Trumps forged health documents?

Is everything about Trump also about Hillary in your mind?

originally posted by: SudoNim

originally posted by: dismanrc
a reply to: SentientCentenarian

To quote Hillary

"What differane does it make now?"

Firstly I don't believe she said "differane".

Secondly, why do you think a Hillary quote is applicable when talking about Donald Trumps forged health documents?

Is everything about Trump also about Hillary in your mind?

It's an interesting tactic and obviously support for Hillary; even bay "attacking" Hillary in a Trump thread they're keeping her in the news, keeping people talking about her.