I just attended a Trump rally - Everett, Washington

Thank You for your report. It is similar to most other reports I have heard previously.

Large crowds do indicate popularity
People who attend these functions are often very outspoken fans
outspoken fans do vote, and attempt to draw others to vote as well

originally posted by: tothetenthpower

Large crowds at events are not an indication of how many people will go out and vote on election day. The vast majority of voters do not attend political events other than voting on that day itself.

The two things are basically unrelated and to use his crowd size as a means to somehow insinuate that the polls are all faked in favor of Hillary is just nonsense.

~Tenth

So you're telling us that people who will go to rallies won't vote, but those who don't go to rallies do vote? You guys will say anything to mask the fact that there is zero excitement or enthusiasm from voters to attend a Hillary rally versus Trump who's filling venues to max capacity. Nobody with eyes or ears is buying it, but just keep parroting that MSM narrative and you may just convince yourself, but come election day you'll be in for quite the surprise.

originally posted by: gymbeau2000
the speakers and Trump himself said they set an attendance record for the building.

He says that wherever he goes even if the place is half empty.

originally posted by: tothetenthpower

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
Yet with all that attendance at these rallies, Hillary still manages to be "leading"? No....

...Yes...

He's polling ahead in all the places you would expect.

Large crowds at events are not an indication of how many people will go out and vote on election day. The vast majority of voters do not attend political events other than voting on that day itself.

The two things are basically unrelated and to use his crowd size as a means to somehow insinuate that the polls are all faked in favor of Hillary is just nonsense.

~Tenth

You cannot deny that Trump supporters have much, much more enthusiasm than Hillary voters. Hillary cannot even pay people to generate this much enthusiasm. She can't fill a port-o-potty let alone a huge stadium. So I have to disagree with you. I think that enthusiasm will most definitely translate into votes. A Trump supporter will not stay home, come hell or high water, on Election Day. A Trump voter will vote no matter what. And Trump volunteers are way more engaged, have heartfelt support and determination, unlike you will ever see in a Hillary voter. The volunteers are getting the message out in any way possible. People are waking up. Many people in this election cycle, like myself, have never voted in their entire life!! So don't even try to tell me that this won't translate into votes on Election Day. Are U Kidding Me?!?

It doesn't really matter what kind of enthusiasm or attendance he has at a rally in Washington state. There is no way he is going to win Washington State in November. The same way it doesn't matter what kind of attendance he has at a rally in Jackson, Mississippi. Mississippi is going red no matter what. He's scheduling his rallies based on what kind of crowd he can get not based on what makes sense for his campaign.

Meanwhile in Pennsylvania, a state he has to win, he has 2 field offices while Clinton has 36.

So, we'll see in a couple of months if this strategy works.

a reply to: Nucleardoom

*sigh*

No.

What I said was that there are far more people who VOTE than go to rallies. Statistically speaking, because people can watch most of the coverage from the event on TV. They don't NEED to go to the rally to get what the candidate is saying.

That wasn't the case 25 years ago, so a lot more people attended rallies.

ou guys will say anything to mask the fact that there is zero excitement or enthusiasm from voters to attend a Hillary rally versus Trump who's filling venues to max capacity.

I don't give a damn about that, I'm not a Hillary Supporter, I'm not a Trump Supporter, as far as I'm concerned both of them have all the appeal of a fist.

Nobody with eyes or ears is buying it, but just keep parroting that MSM narrative and you may just convince yourself, but come election day you'll be in for quite the surprise.

You should stow the partisan tone since I'm not playing that game with anybody. And come election day, I'll be surprised an dismayed either way. I'm not parroting any MSM narrative either.

Rallies are no longer a good indication of national support among likely voters. Simply due to demographics and the ease of access regarding the speeches the candidates make at any given rally.

~Tenth

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: Alien Abduct

Seriously?

Yes

a reply to: AreUKiddingMe

You cannot deny that Trump supporters have much, much more enthusiasm than Hillary voters. Hillary cannot even pay people to generate this much enthusiasm. She can't fill a port-o-potty let alone a huge stadium.

And I don't care about that, it is true, there is more enthusiasm for Trump among his supporters.

A Trump supporter will not stay home, come hell or high water, on Election Day.

And that's only 40% of registered GOP voters and that's being generous.

Many people in this election cycle, like myself, have never voted in their entire life!! So don't even try to tell me that this won't translate into votes on Election Day. Are U Kidding Me?!?

Donald trump is not going to convince 50% of people who never take part in politics to suddenly take part in politics, no matter who he is or what he says.

The highest reported turn out in an election over the last 20 years was 2008 at 57%. That's including both Democrats and Republicans.

Unless Trump can pull a miracle and have more than 70% turnout, in favor of him, he's not likely going to win. And considering he has no national ground game for his general election, hell he has a 16 year old kid manning a whole state - again, not likely to win.

~Tenth

originally posted by: tothetenthpower
a reply to: AreUKiddingMe

Many people in this election cycle, like myself, have never voted in their entire life!! So don't even try to tell me that this won't translate into votes on Election Day. Are U Kidding Me?!?

Donald trump is not going to convince 50% of people who never take part in politics to suddenly take part in politics, no matter who he is or what he says.

The highest reported turn out in an election over the last 20 years was 2008 at 57%. That's including both Democrats and Republicans.

Unless Trump can pull a miracle and have more than 70% turnout, in favor of him, he's not likely going to win. And considering he has no national ground game for his general election, hell he has a 16 year old kid manning a whole state - again, not likely to win.

~Tenth

"Not likely" is exactly what they were saying when he needed 1237 delegates to win the nomination. He turned that prediction upside-down. A lot of people like myself have not voted in the past because of the corrupt system. We see this now as our one and only opportunity to get real change in Washington. I now have a grandson and I dread for him to grow up in "Hillary's America". We feel this to our very core. We don't want globalism destroying our very way of life. We need jobs and less regulation, an ability to compete. Our nation has grown weaker and weaker over the past decade. We are so very determined to get this country back on the right track we are coming out in droves this year. If you can't see the writing on the wall yet, you will soon.

originally posted by: AreUKiddingMe
We don't want globalism destroying our very way of life. We need jobs and less regulation

And how are you going to roll back globalism without more regulation?

To radically oversimplify "globalism" is allowing business to do whatever it wants across national borders. So, for example, the only way Trump as head of government is going to force Apple to "make their damn computers" in the U.S. is to use the force of government to regulate what they're doing.

originally posted by: gymbeau2000

originally posted by: Gryphon66
Followup question:

If there are polls that show Trump leading or gaining on Clinton ... will you then believe the polls are accurate?

If so, do you understand the concept of confirmation bias?

Me? I know no polls are accurate and yes I know what confirmation bias is. I'm a mental health professional and have a year of statistics, on top of being retired Army.

A year of statistics? Well, that's far more than most folks here. Bravo.

I'd explore your generic statement that "no polls are accurate" but it'd be a waste of time.

Polls show what polls show. The scientific ones have more validity than mere opinion polls.

No poll pretends to "predict the future" ... whether showing for Clinton or for Trump.

If, however, you find statistical science to be unreliable, about 99% of your chosen profession would come up hogwash, as almost everything we "know" about sociology and psychology (the usual fields for a "mental health professional") is based on surveys and statistical studies.

(This excludes actual sciences like medicine and neurology, of course.)

a reply to: slider1982

SHE would have to GO OUT to DO IT first

It's a shame you cut in line and took the places of actual Trump supporters who missed their once in a life chance to see our future president.

Do you feel bad about that at all?

a reply to: AreUKiddingMe

"Not likely" is exactly what they were saying when he needed 1237 delegates to win the nomination.

And that wasn't likely either, but polling data suggested he would win.

That's the problem I have, is that when he was polling really high during the primaries, everybody and their sister praised the pollsters.

Now in the general, he's never polled well outside of a few isolated points. He is closing the gap in swing states however so that's good for him.

We need jobs and less regulation, an ability to compete. Our nation has grown weaker and weaker over the past decade. We are so very determined to get this country back on the right track we are coming out in droves this year. If you can't see the writing on the wall yet, you will soon.

And that's great, I'm glad people are getting involved, I just don't believe Trump is in it for the same reasons you all are.

That's a personal opinion mind you.

~Tenth

The same morons bringing up Hillary again from page 1. Can't even respect the OP's wishes.

I'm 98% sure Stacey Dash of Clueless was there in the VIP section

A fitting endorsement, thanks for the post but unfortunately its only a true viewpoint for yourself.

It's a relevant as me saying I was there and it was extremely aggressive.

My question, and apologises if this has been asked/answered in pages 2-4, but did anything said by Trump or his speakers make you consider voting for him(more so if you already were). I'd like to know if repetitive chanting is an effective method on undecided voters.

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: slider1982
a reply to: gymbeau2000


And in other news Hillary struggles to fill a small hanger and is either cancelling gigs or dare I say paying people to attend???..

But she is ahead in the Polls right????


RA

Yes.
I have seen ONE Hillary bumper sticker so far in this cycle. ONE.

Maybe she should start paying people to put bumper stickers on their cars?

You do know that people can vote for a candidate, Republican/Democrat/Green Party/etc. without first slapping a bumper sticker on their car, without putting up a sign in their yard, skipping online polls, and without attending a rally, right?

originally posted by: daerath


You do know that people can vote for a candidate, Republican/Democrat/Green Party/etc. without first slapping a bumper sticker on their car, without putting up a sign in their yard, skipping online polls, and without attending a rally, right?

You're exactly right. Ive done none of the above (other than online poll) and im voting Trump, so is my wife, and military son who have done neither either

a reply to: gymbeau2000

Thanks for the "report from the floor".

originally posted by: DelMarvel

originally posted by: AreUKiddingMe
We don't want globalism destroying our very way of life. We need jobs and less regulation

And how are you going to roll back globalism without more regulation?

Compared to Mexico, which has a tough immigration policy and actually enforces it, and has practically no regulation on industries, we are handicapped right out of the gate. Mexico maintains their sovereignty and enforces their tough immigration laws. Canada enforces their border as well as their immigration laws.

This is why many U.S. companies are moving to Mexico. Cheap labor and less regulations and taxes. Until ALL of our jobs have moved to Mexico, Illegals will still stream over the border to us here and take working jobs away from U.S. citizens. We need fair trade deals that we benefit from as much as the foreign countries. Our trade deals are negotiated by political hacks right now. They don't have a clue and for sure are not protecting the interests of American citizens.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Yes, yes, but surely it's not a good sign that so many progressives are attending a Trump rally is it?