CNN article on Planet X / Planet 9

The planet in question is not the mythical celestial body on an imaginary collision course with earth.

It's a possible planet way, way out there whose orbit never takes it closer to the sun than pluto is, and which is usually much further out.

Double post due to ATS gremlins.

originally posted by: GERRY041284
From reading all the topics of late regarding planet x, 9, nibiru, it would seem that some people said it was a lot of imaginery rubbish.

Planet X or 9 is a valid astronomical possibility, and many astronomers are looking for such an objet.

Nibiru is imaginary rubbish.

originally posted by: Greggers
The planet in question is not the mythical celestial body on an imaginary collision course with earth.

It's a possible planet way, way out there whose orbit never takes it closer to the sun than pluto is, and which is usually much further out.

Planet? I don't think so. If so, it would be extremely rare but a comet? Yes.

Take for instance, Comet NEAT That passed through our Solar System in 2003 being almost twice the size of Jupiter.

Here's a video of it.

a reply to: Greggers

My bad, I read your post wrong. It's 1am here

Thought you was asking if it was possible for a planet to smash into the Earth.

a reply to: EviLCHiMP

No i dont hold a degree in astronomical events, do you?? I am merely reading what and giving an opinion on what CNN has reported.

Educate myself? I hold a degree in civil Engineering so do not insult me [SNIPPED]. What education or experience do you have or what do u know that gives you the right to come on here be so rude to people??

originally posted by: EmmanuelGoldstein
We're going to need a bigger wall.

YOUR'E gonna need a bigger wall

dont't forget Mandela effect changed the movie quote

Planet? I don't think so. If so, it would be extremely rare but a comet? Yes. Take for instance, Comet NEAT That passed through our Solar System in 2003 being almost twice the size of Jupiter.

Don't confuse the coma of a comet with the nucleus. The coma is the extremely rarefied "atmosphere" of the comet as dust and gases are blown off the nucleus as it approaches the Sun. This can grow to enormous size, but it has very little mass. The nucleus of a comet is the tiny solid object at the centre that is made of a mixture of rock and ice, and is generally no more than a few kilometres in diameter. Even the largest comets are only 50-100 kms in diameter, and are therefore insignificant when compared to even the smallest planets.

Any object in the extreme outer Solar System that is perturbing the orbits of other objects in the region will have significant mass, and therefore will NOT be a comet. The most likely explanation is an undiscovered large PLANET.

a reply to: DarkvsLight29

That says to me, ether a cover up or just doesn't exist

Follow the money. Who gains by saying there’s no Planet X?

NASA certainly doesn’t. They don’t get any supplementary government grants for investigating things that aren’t there.

The government certainly doesn’t. Downplaying a threat doesn’t garner additional budget votes for defence against it, or justify the arrogation of more power to the authorities. It does just the opposite.

And if they’re doing it to prevent widespread panic, why bother? If some astronomical body is going to collide disastrously with Earth, all bets are off anyway. Me might as well all just relax and do whatever the hell we like.

On the other hand, who gains by saying there is a Planet X and it’s going to crash into Earth soon?

Why, that’s easy. The doom pornographers of the media and the internet, who see their audience ratings and advertising revenues climb. The fraudulent ‘psychics’ and visionaries to whom people pay good money to have their anxieties titillated. The preachers whose collection-plates and bank accounts fill up with donations from those keen to be Saved before the Final Days begin. The owners of the conspiracy web sites who attract more eyeballs (and again, revenues) by ‘exposing’ the ‘secret cover-ups’ of the government and the scientific establishment.

So... which do you think it is?

originally posted by: wildespace

originally posted by: GERRY041284
From reading all the topics of late regarding planet x, 9, nibiru, it would seem that some people said it was a lot of imaginery rubbish.

Planet X or 9 is a valid astronomical possibility, and many astronomers are looking for such an objet.

Nibiru is imaginary rubbish.

Yes thr reason they are looking for it is somethin is causing ecetric orbits of sedna for example. We have found several objects that just shouldn't be orbiting the ways they do. But the key is if there was a planet with a 15000 year orbit ot might explain this. Though that is not the only solution either could have been caused by a sun passing near as well. But this planet would never get closer than 200 AU. One AU is thr distance from the earth to the sun. To give people an idea Neptune is at 30.087 AU. Or in other words this thing is so distant that even telescopes have a problem spotting it. It will never ever enter thr orbits of Neptune or the inner planets.

And if it did it would destroy are planet with an orbit of 15000 years we wouldnt be here. Second if it did enter it still has to get by the gas giants without being pulled in very unlikely that could happen. Gurantee on one of its orbits it would have smashed into them along time ago question is would it manage to destroy the inner orbits of earth mars etc first before it is destroyed. There is no planet nibiru if there was we wouldn't be here to discuss it.

a reply to: Astyanax


You make a good point, guess both sides make money on planet X.

That said, we've got more star's, planets and galaxies mapped than this so called planet X Nibiru, so does it exist or some huge meteor/planet or is it a comet?

a reply to: DarkvsLight29

That wasn't my point. Only one side makes money was the point.

Life cannot develop on a planet with an orbit like that. It would freeze before it could develop. It's a bunch of Bologna.

originally posted by: GERRY041284

From reading all the topics of late regarding planet x, 9, nibiru...

The description of the Planet 9/ Planet X mentioned in that story is NOT what some people call Nibiru.

...it would seem that some people said it was a lot of imaginary rubbish

I don't know of too many people who have denied the possibility of another planet lurking out there in the far solar system. Again, this would NOT be the same as Nibiru, which is supposed to be a planet whose orbit takes it into the inner solar system every 3600 years, and some say is close enough to see with the naked eye right now.

If this Planet 9 exists, and there has been some of evidence supporting that possibility over the past few years (mainstream science evidence), then it has potentially existed since the beginning of the Solar System, just hanging out there doing its own thing for 4 billion years or so, not really bothering us directly. In fact, all the planets in the solar system owe their orbits to the gravity everything else in the solar system, so in its small way, a potential Planet X is what helped give Earth it's nice and cozy orbit where it's not too hot and not too cold. Although the hypothetical orbit for Planet X is so far out there that its direct gravity has very very little direct effect on Earth -- but it could have had a direct effect on the orbit of Sedna, which Helped set Eris' orbit, which affected Pluto, which help set Neptune's orbit, and so on and so on...

Similar to you saying that you are "on the fence" about this, mainstream science has been on the fence about the EXISTENCE of a Planet beyond Neptune and Pluto, but most scientists are NOT on the fence about the POSSIBILITY that it exists. Over the years, quite a bit of circumstantial evidence has been presented for a large body out there in the deep Kuiper Belt, but before science can claim that it DOES exists, someone will have to actually detected it with a telescope.


So mainstream science is on board with the idea of the Planet X described in the article in the OP. But, again, the description of the orbit of this planet has nothing at all in common with the description of Nibiru.

Where were the "it's Nibiru!" people jumping up and down over Eris in 2006 when it was discovered? Eris was considered in some circles to be the 10th Planet for a while (it's the same size as Pluto) in 2006, but I don't remember anyone think it was Nibiru.

By the way, the "10th Planet" talk for Eris subsided when it and Pluto were re-classified into a new category called "Dwarf Planets" -- a reclassification that was prompted by the discovery of Eris. If it weren't for the discovery of Eris, Pluto may still be called a planet today.

Another "by the way", the discover of Eris (Mike Brown of Cal Tech) is one of those mainstream scientists completely on board with the idea that another larger "Planet X" may be orbiting way out there somewhere beyond Pluto and Eris. He is actively looking for it, and has published a few papers on the subject. Mike Brown is also known as "planet killer" because it was Mike Brown's discovery of Eris that directly led to the demotion of Pluto out of the rank of "Major Planet".

a reply to: TheProphetMark

Take for instance, Comet NEAT That passed through our Solar System in 2003 being almost twice the size of Jupiter.

Do you think the nucleus or the solid part of the comet was actually that size or do you understand that the surrounding coma is what was that large?

The actual solid part of the comet was most likely only a few Km across, still being large but no where near Jupiter's 140,000 Km diameter.

Planet 9 From Outer Space.

If found, I wonder what its official name will be.

originally posted by: damwel
Life cannot develop on a planet with an orbit like that. It would freeze before it could develop. It's a bunch of Bologna.

That depends on if it could have an internal heat source (radioactive decay, for example) that would allow for liquid to flow. For example, Pluto is thought by some to possibly have a liquid nitrogen ocean under its frozen crust, an ocean that is kept liquid by the slight heat of radioactive decay. There are some astrobiologists, including NASA astrobiologists, who have speculated on the possibility that life could exist in such an environment.

A potential Planet X may have this same sort of internal heat source, and thus could have flowing liquids such as nitrogen or methane not too far under its cold surface.

originally posted by: Junkheap

If found, I wonder what its official name will be.

Sticking with the Roman God/Goddess naming convention of the other planets, I'd say a good name would be "Aquilo".

Aquilo was the Roman god of the north wind, and the bringer of cold.

originally posted by: Junkheap
Planet 9 From Outer Space.

If found, I wonder what its official name will be.

So many SF books I read growing up called it Persephone (per-SEH-fə-nee, the queen of the underworld), I think that should be its name. Those books inspired a lot of kids to grow up and become the astronomers and astrophysicists that are now looking for distant worlds. They should name it Persephone in tribute to the authors that inspired them.

originally posted by: Saint Exupery

originally posted by: Junkheap
Planet 9 From Outer Space.

If found, I wonder what its official name will be.

So many SF books I read growing up called it Persephone (per-SEH-fə-nee, the queen of the underworld), I think that should be its name.

Ohhh -- that's a good one. It has the added benefit of allowing school kids to go back to using the same mnemonic devices we used when Pluto was still a planet -- e.g., "My very educated mother just served us nine pizzas".