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originally posted by: lSkrewloosel
a reply to: cuckooold
i don't think bashing this guy is fair. He did what most police probably do already. just he ws silly enough to get caught.
police are corrupt as anything in USA.
originally posted by: lSkrewloosel
a reply to: cuckooold
i don't think bashing this guy is fair. He did what most police probably do already. just he ws silly enough to get caught.
police are corrupt as anything in USA.
originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: enlightenedservant
Details details ....
It is possible i glossed over that fact....
A shame Obama would have him do hard FELONY time (as a cop in prison and all that)... then not be able to vote; own a gun;
originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
Breathtaking!
A shame Obama would have him do hard FELONY time (as a cop in prison and all that)... then not be able to vote; own a gun; get a decent job; etc.
Hopefully he doesn't get raped while in prison...
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: Sremmos80
He could end Marijuana Prohibition, via Executive Order, yet even though it hardest harms the black community He supposedly loves, He wont.
Likewise, even essentially all of the resident ATS progressives / etc that carry on in all these black stuff threads as if they care about them wont support it either:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
TOTAL HYPOCRISY DRIPPING WITH OPPRESSION.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
As if the Republicans don't also support the War on Drugs, even though they also know it disproportionately hurts minority communities. Only the Green Party and Libertarians claim they'd end the War on Drugs, and neither of them has any power at the State, local, or federal level (yet).
Why do we have to put it on the other side as well?
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
As if the Republicans don't also support the War on Drugs, even though they also know it disproportionately hurts minority communities. Only the Green Party and Libertarians claim they'd end the War on Drugs, and neither of them has any power at the State, local, or federal level (yet).
Sure. But I'm not a republican nor was I speaking for them.
They're called the RACISTS (the dirtiest word these days outside the N Bomb), yet the most racist policy ever, that Obama could have ended already, he hasn't, Hillary expanded it, but 'only' the conservatives are the RACISTS. I actually pity them, how far gone (hypocritically especially) everything has become.
Clearly I think both "sides" are just as guilty for their continued support of the War on Drugs.
However, you're the one who brought President Obama into this, even though the OP has nothing to do with him. So I simply pointed out that if you're going to try to put this on him, you need to put it on the other side as well. Especially since they've also refused to pass anything decriminalizing MJ in either chamber of Congress (which Repubs control). I suspect Repubs would just try to pass new War on Drugs legislation if Obama overturned it, anyway.
Besides, don't conservatives say that if/when they win the White House again, they'll overturn as many of his executive orders as possible? So why should anyone believe they wouldn't overturn one decriminalizing maryjane when they're still in favor of criminalizing it?
Obama is the the one right now that could end it.
originally posted by: roadgravel
Obama is the the one right now that could end it.
How can he end anything? At this point Congress isn't willing to accept anything he proposes.
Or are you just saying the president can declare changes to laws and they go into effect?
originally posted by: imsoconfused
Why do we have to put it on the other side as well?
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
As if the Republicans don't also support the War on Drugs, even though they also know it disproportionately hurts minority communities. Only the Green Party and Libertarians claim they'd end the War on Drugs, and neither of them has any power at the State, local, or federal level (yet).
Sure. But I'm not a republican nor was I speaking for them.
They're called the RACISTS (the dirtiest word these days outside the N Bomb), yet the most racist policy ever, that Obama could have ended already, he hasn't, Hillary expanded it, but 'only' the conservatives are the RACISTS. I actually pity them, how far gone (hypocritically especially) everything has become.
Clearly I think both "sides" are just as guilty for their continued support of the War on Drugs.
However, you're the one who brought President Obama into this, even though the OP has nothing to do with him. So I simply pointed out that if you're going to try to put this on him, you need to put it on the other side as well. Especially since they've also refused to pass anything decriminalizing MJ in either chamber of Congress (which Repubs control). I suspect Repubs would just try to pass new War on Drugs legislation if Obama overturned it, anyway.
Besides, don't conservatives say that if/when they win the White House again, they'll overturn as many of his executive orders as possible? So why should anyone believe they wouldn't overturn one decriminalizing maryjane when they're still in favor of criminalizing it?
Obama is the the one right now that could end it. But he doesnt. But his daughter is ok to smoke it with no repercussions.
As for this cop I hope he goes to prison and does hard time. Because I bet he locked up countless people for the same damm thing.
Hypocrites the whole bunch of them. Obama the biggest.
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
originally posted by: imsoconfused
Why do we have to put it on the other side as well?
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
As if the Republicans don't also support the War on Drugs, even though they also know it disproportionately hurts minority communities. Only the Green Party and Libertarians claim they'd end the War on Drugs, and neither of them has any power at the State, local, or federal level (yet).
Sure. But I'm not a republican nor was I speaking for them.
They're called the RACISTS (the dirtiest word these days outside the N Bomb), yet the most racist policy ever, that Obama could have ended already, he hasn't, Hillary expanded it, but 'only' the conservatives are the RACISTS. I actually pity them, how far gone (hypocritically especially) everything has become.
Clearly I think both "sides" are just as guilty for their continued support of the War on Drugs.
However, you're the one who brought President Obama into this, even though the OP has nothing to do with him. So I simply pointed out that if you're going to try to put this on him, you need to put it on the other side as well. Especially since they've also refused to pass anything decriminalizing MJ in either chamber of Congress (which Repubs control). I suspect Repubs would just try to pass new War on Drugs legislation if Obama overturned it, anyway.
Besides, don't conservatives say that if/when they win the White House again, they'll overturn as many of his executive orders as possible? So why should anyone believe they wouldn't overturn one decriminalizing maryjane when they're still in favor of criminalizing it?
Obama is the the one right now that could end it. But he doesnt. But his daughter is ok to smoke it with no repercussions.
As for this cop I hope he goes to prison and does hard time. Because I bet he locked up countless people for the same damm thing.
Hypocrites the whole bunch of them. Obama the biggest.
Actually, you're wrong. Congress can also end it. In fact, Congress can end the entire "War on Drugs" if they choose to. But they simply refuse to pass any new legislation softening or ending the "War on Drugs".
What's with the right wing refusing to hold your own politicians accountable? They control both houses of Congress, yet are somehow immune to any criticism for not passing new laws to fix any of our current problems.
originally posted by: imsoconfused
Why do we have to put it on the other side as well?
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
As if the Republicans don't also support the War on Drugs, even though they also know it disproportionately hurts minority communities. Only the Green Party and Libertarians claim they'd end the War on Drugs, and neither of them has any power at the State, local, or federal level (yet).
Sure. But I'm not a republican nor was I speaking for them.
They're called the RACISTS (the dirtiest word these days outside the N Bomb), yet the most racist policy ever, that Obama could have ended already, he hasn't, Hillary expanded it, but 'only' the conservatives are the RACISTS. I actually pity them, how far gone (hypocritically especially) everything has become.
Clearly I think both "sides" are just as guilty for their continued support of the War on Drugs.
However, you're the one who brought President Obama into this, even though the OP has nothing to do with him. So I simply pointed out that if you're going to try to put this on him, you need to put it on the other side as well. Especially since they've also refused to pass anything decriminalizing MJ in either chamber of Congress (which Repubs control). I suspect Repubs would just try to pass new War on Drugs legislation if Obama overturned it, anyway.
Besides, don't conservatives say that if/when they win the White House again, they'll overturn as many of his executive orders as possible? So why should anyone believe they wouldn't overturn one decriminalizing maryjane when they're still in favor of criminalizing it?
Obama is the the one right now that could end it. But he doesnt. But his daughter is ok to smoke it with no repercussions.
As for this cop I hope he goes to prison and does hard time. Because I bet he locked up countless people for the same damm thing.
Hypocrites the whole bunch of them. Obama the biggest.
Yet, Mark Kleiman, a highly respected expert in drug policy insists that simply Rescheduling is largely meaningless, and the ability to end federal marijuana prohibition requires an act of Congress.
If the DEA Administrator decided that the drug had “accepted medical use,” that would move it to Schedule II, making cannabis legally available by prescription. Selling it without a prescription would remain the same crime it is today. (Recall that coc aine and methamphetamine are Schedule II drugs.)
But prescriptions can only be written for FDA-approved drugs. And the FDA can’t approve “marijuana,” because “marijuana” isn’t something that can be put through clinical trials. The New Drug Application would have to be for a specific cannabis preparation, to be given in a specific dosage regimen via a specific route of administration for the treatment of a specific condition. That “new drug” could be a single molecule a combination, an herbal preparation, or an extract. In any case, it would have to have a known and reproducible chemical composition and be produced using “Good Manufacturing Practice.” Producing cannabis without FDA approval would still be the illegal manufacture of a Schedule II controlled substance.
Again, Kleiman insists that what advocates almost certainly are asking for is an explicit exemption from the Federal drug schedules, which requires rewriting the law, not just reclassification:
Alcohol and tobacco, both highly abusable drugs with no accepted medical use, would be Schedule I, but they are explicitly exempted in the text of the law:
The term [controlled substance] does not include distilled spirits, wine, malt beverages, or tobacco.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: imsoconfused
Why do we have to put it on the other side as well?
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
As if the Republicans don't also support the War on Drugs, even though they also know it disproportionately hurts minority communities. Only the Green Party and Libertarians claim they'd end the War on Drugs, and neither of them has any power at the State, local, or federal level (yet).
Sure. But I'm not a republican nor was I speaking for them.
They're called the RACISTS (the dirtiest word these days outside the N Bomb), yet the most racist policy ever, that Obama could have ended already, he hasn't, Hillary expanded it, but 'only' the conservatives are the RACISTS. I actually pity them, how far gone (hypocritically especially) everything has become.
Clearly I think both "sides" are just as guilty for their continued support of the War on Drugs.
However, you're the one who brought President Obama into this, even though the OP has nothing to do with him. So I simply pointed out that if you're going to try to put this on him, you need to put it on the other side as well. Especially since they've also refused to pass anything decriminalizing MJ in either chamber of Congress (which Repubs control). I suspect Repubs would just try to pass new War on Drugs legislation if Obama overturned it, anyway.
Besides, don't conservatives say that if/when they win the White House again, they'll overturn as many of his executive orders as possible? So why should anyone believe they wouldn't overturn one decriminalizing maryjane when they're still in favor of criminalizing it?
Obama is the the one right now that could end it. But he doesnt. But his daughter is ok to smoke it with no repercussions.
As for this cop I hope he goes to prison and does hard time. Because I bet he locked up countless people for the same damm thing.
Hypocrites the whole bunch of them. Obama the biggest.
It's actually not as easy as you suggest for the President to do that:
Can The President End Federal Marijuana Prohibition Himself? Probably Not.
Yet, Mark Kleiman, a highly respected expert in drug policy insists that simply Rescheduling is largely meaningless, and the ability to end federal marijuana prohibition requires an act of Congress.
If the DEA Administrator decided that the drug had “accepted medical use,” that would move it to Schedule II, making cannabis legally available by prescription. Selling it without a prescription would remain the same crime it is today. (Recall that coc aine and methamphetamine are Schedule II drugs.)
But prescriptions can only be written for FDA-approved drugs. And the FDA can’t approve “marijuana,” because “marijuana” isn’t something that can be put through clinical trials. The New Drug Application would have to be for a specific cannabis preparation, to be given in a specific dosage regimen via a specific route of administration for the treatment of a specific condition. That “new drug” could be a single molecule a combination, an herbal preparation, or an extract. In any case, it would have to have a known and reproducible chemical composition and be produced using “Good Manufacturing Practice.” Producing cannabis without FDA approval would still be the illegal manufacture of a Schedule II controlled substance.
Again, Kleiman insists that what advocates almost certainly are asking for is an explicit exemption from the Federal drug schedules, which requires rewriting the law, not just reclassification:
Alcohol and tobacco, both highly abusable drugs with no accepted medical use, would be Schedule I, but they are explicitly exempted in the text of the law:
The term [controlled substance] does not include distilled spirits, wine, malt beverages, or tobacco.
Today, the President announced 42 additional grants of clemency to men and women serving years in prison under outdated and unduly harsh sentencing laws. The individuals receiving a presidential commutation today have more than repaid their debt to society and earned this second chance.
To date, the President has commuted the sentences of 348 individuals -- more than the previous seven Presidents combined. He remains committed to using his clemency power throughout the remainder of the Administration to give more deserving individuals that same second chance.
originally posted by: imsoconfused
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: imsoconfused
Why do we have to put it on the other side as well?
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
As if the Republicans don't also support the War on Drugs, even though they also know it disproportionately hurts minority communities. Only the Green Party and Libertarians claim they'd end the War on Drugs, and neither of them has any power at the State, local, or federal level (yet).
Sure. But I'm not a republican nor was I speaking for them.
They're called the RACISTS (the dirtiest word these days outside the N Bomb), yet the most racist policy ever, that Obama could have ended already, he hasn't, Hillary expanded it, but 'only' the conservatives are the RACISTS. I actually pity them, how far gone (hypocritically especially) everything has become.
Clearly I think both "sides" are just as guilty for their continued support of the War on Drugs.
However, you're the one who brought President Obama into this, even though the OP has nothing to do with him. So I simply pointed out that if you're going to try to put this on him, you need to put it on the other side as well. Especially since they've also refused to pass anything decriminalizing MJ in either chamber of Congress (which Repubs control). I suspect Repubs would just try to pass new War on Drugs legislation if Obama overturned it, anyway.
Besides, don't conservatives say that if/when they win the White House again, they'll overturn as many of his executive orders as possible? So why should anyone believe they wouldn't overturn one decriminalizing maryjane when they're still in favor of criminalizing it?
Obama is the the one right now that could end it. But he doesnt. But his daughter is ok to smoke it with no repercussions.
As for this cop I hope he goes to prison and does hard time. Because I bet he locked up countless people for the same damm thing.
Hypocrites the whole bunch of them. Obama the biggest.
It's actually not as easy as you suggest for the President to do that:
Can The President End Federal Marijuana Prohibition Himself? Probably Not.
Yet, Mark Kleiman, a highly respected expert in drug policy insists that simply Rescheduling is largely meaningless, and the ability to end federal marijuana prohibition requires an act of Congress.
If the DEA Administrator decided that the drug had “accepted medical use,” that would move it to Schedule II, making cannabis legally available by prescription. Selling it without a prescription would remain the same crime it is today. (Recall that coc aine and methamphetamine are Schedule II drugs.)
But prescriptions can only be written for FDA-approved drugs. And the FDA can’t approve “marijuana,” because “marijuana” isn’t something that can be put through clinical trials. The New Drug Application would have to be for a specific cannabis preparation, to be given in a specific dosage regimen via a specific route of administration for the treatment of a specific condition. That “new drug” could be a single molecule a combination, an herbal preparation, or an extract. In any case, it would have to have a known and reproducible chemical composition and be produced using “Good Manufacturing Practice.” Producing cannabis without FDA approval would still be the illegal manufacture of a Schedule II controlled substance.
Again, Kleiman insists that what advocates almost certainly are asking for is an explicit exemption from the Federal drug schedules, which requires rewriting the law, not just reclassification:
Alcohol and tobacco, both highly abusable drugs with no accepted medical use, would be Schedule I, but they are explicitly exempted in the text of the law:
The term [controlled substance] does not include distilled spirits, wine, malt beverages, or tobacco.
Again just start pardoning people it would end quick.