Could this be the start of the mark of the beast??

a reply to: Ultimategamer82

Hey, OP, you can relax. There's no 'Beast'. There's no 'Mark Of The Beast'. Are you in 2nd grade? Or maybe you're a 15th century French girl who's being guided by divine voices? If not, your wasting your time/energy worrying about this crap. The implants are voluntary, and are designed to save time, by reducing the number of pass cards one might carry, and PIN and passwords one might have to remember. That's all. If/when these implants become available in your area, don't get one, if you don't like the idea. Technology is not evil. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go witness an exorcism on a microwave oven. Wish me luck.

What happens when you don't have enough money to pay rent, or pay back a loan? They could easily, with the help of the government or any institution really that wants to be involved, just shut down your chip privileges until you pay up. You'd be screwed then, especially if you're out and about.

a reply to: TownCryer

Neither of the above and def not worried about the beast
I merely posted it for peoples thoughts whether there is/ or will be an antichrist doesnt really bother me more interests if anything as well as the responses of others members posts as for your assumption that there is no beast that is your opinion
There are many strange unanswered things in this world and curiosity and interest is what gives us answers

Excellent find. It's only the beginning. People will be more cyborg than human if current technology continues in the direction it is.

Of course World War III would act as a technology reset and interrupt this trend.

a reply to: DISRAELI

nd the text is not just about not buying and selling. It is made clear that the mark represents willingness to worship the Beast and reject God,

You added "God" to the interpretation. The Beast is symbolic of empires, the Roman one back then and guess who, today?

Worshiping the beast is misinterpreted today to mean worshipping one ruler or deity, the 7 heads and ten horns (which are "Kings") of the beast are clearly defined as rulers, the 'heads' of the beast; a system, not just one person (or deity).

What is the mark of the beast in Revelations?
"The second beast of Revelation 13 will cause 'all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name' (verses 16-17).

Without an individually assigned number? Do tell.

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: DISRAELI

The mark of the beast, according to Revelation ch13, is expressing willingness to worship a dominating world-ruler and reject the Biblical God.

None shall buy or sell without it is pretty specific.

Of course in a wider scope, who can buy or sell without 'currency'? Be it precious metal, paper or plastic, the current system is all encompassing, everyone uses it. Well, almost everyone.

but heres where you seperate the tech from the mark. you have to SWEAR to the BEast to receive it. SO unless these people are swearing to follow the anti christ this is not a mark of the beast. Geez people.

By BEAST they mean the ONE WORLD RULER and NOT the COuntries.

originally posted by: intrptr
You added "God" to the interpretation.

No, the fact that the mark of the beast involves rejection of God is implicit in God's reaction in the next chapter;
"If any one worships the beast and its image and receives a mark... he also shall drink the wine of God's wrath" -Revelation ch14 vv9-10
God is not going to react like that to anything less than conscious rejection.
Therefore the mark must involve conscious rejection of God.

Without an individually assigned number? Do tell.

But the people in Revelation do NOT have individually assigned numbers.
Look at the text again. It is very clearly stated that they all have the SAME number associated with them (the number of the beast). So any theory that depends on individually assigned numbers is completely wide of the mark.

Boycotting does not need assigned numbers. You just need a way of identifyiing the people involved. When the Nazis were boycotting the Jews, it helped that the Jews were being made to wear badges.
The idea in Revelation ch13 is that there is a positive identification for worshippers of the beast, which the non-worshippers do not acquire.
It could be a badge. It could be a mode of greeting (an equivalent of the Nazi salute).
It is a question of really looking at what the passage is describing, instead of picking on odd details and trying to match them up for theory-building purposes.

a reply to: Ultimategamer82

None of the strange and unanswered questions of this world have anything to do with a fictitious 'Beast'. Yes, that's an opinion. One shared by almost the entire world. Blaming things on a boogie man is a cop out.

I know a way to ensure it is not the mark of the beast, and its really very simple. Just get it implanted on your left hand.

There really is no mark of the beast. It is all superstitious hogwash.

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: DISRAELI

The mark of the beast, according to Revelation ch13, is expressing willingness to worship a dominating world-ruler and reject the Biblical God.

None shall buy or sell without it is pretty specific.

Of course in a wider scope, who can buy or sell without 'currency'? Be it precious metal, paper or plastic, the current system is all encompassing, everyone uses it. Well, almost everyone.

but heres where you seperate the tech from the mark. you have to SWEAR to the BEast to receive it. SO unless these people are swearing to follow the anti christ this is not a mark of the beast. Geez people.

By BEAST they mean the ONE WORLD RULER and NOT the Countries.

There are seven heads (7 kings) to the 'one world ruler', somehow you omit that. And about 'swearing', you do that every time you sign on the dotted line. To get ID, a job, a bank account, a line of credit.

You are a number, a number that you carry wth you everywhere you go.

a reply to: DISRAELI

"If any one worships the beast and its image and receives a mark... he also shall drink the wine of God's wrath" -Revelation ch14 vv9-10

All that means is are you greedy for the things of this world. Love of money, things and self. Are you a slave to the system, ambitious, successful, lover of money and things? Do you work all the week long to have nice things that the system provides for you, are you part of the system, a product of that system, a product of the world?

Edit: We're supposed to be in the world but not of it. Not a product of the world and its materialism, its empire of wealth and possessions.

Any kind of mark, chip or laser tattoo like a bar code is merely an extension of the system already in place.

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: DISRAELI

The mark of the beast, according to Revelation ch13, is expressing willingness to worship a dominating world-ruler and reject the Biblical God.

None shall buy or sell without it is pretty specific.

Of course in a wider scope, who can buy or sell without 'currency'? Be it precious metal, paper or plastic, the current system is all encompassing, everyone uses it. Well, almost everyone.

but heres where you seperate the tech from the mark. you have to SWEAR to the BEast to receive it. SO unless these people are swearing to follow the anti christ this is not a mark of the beast. Geez people.

By BEAST they mean the ONE WORLD RULER and NOT the Countries.

There are seven heads (7 kings) to the 'one world ruler', somehow you omit that. And about 'swearing', you do that every time you sign on the dotted line. To get ID, a job, a bank account, a line of credit.

You are a number, a number that you carry wth you everywhere you go.

Do you bow down and swear to WORSHIP though? No you do not. And No I didnt Omit the 7 kings i just called them COUNTRIES. the one world ruler is A single man who will tell you to worship him or die. those who swear to HIM and HIM ALONE to worship him get the mark.

You know this but you are just trolling and wanting to argue.

a reply to: yuppa

Do you bow down and swear to WORSHIP though? No you do not.

Doesn't say that, it says 'worship'. You 'worship' what you spend all your time doing. More akin to giving allegiance too, adhering to, participating in.

Not the kind of 'worship' practiced in contemporary churchianity.

a reply to: DISRAELI

With this one, I see the mark as possibly being a tattoo, similar to the tattoo which was given to the turncoats who became the slaves of 'the Observers' in the TV series 'Fringe'. Either a tattoo by itself, or in combination with the chip technology. Can't have a chip unless you receive 'the mark' ('mark' seems pretty obviously a visible symbol somewhere on the body - either the head or hand, according to the text, so tattoo would sound about right...)

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: intrptr

That would be easy to hack by anyone with a fake chip. Or by cutting off his hands and using them to gain entrance. I don't know about this guy, what about the bank manager who can open the vault with the wave of a hand...

Waves severed hands in front of reader... "Open Sesame..."

Perhaps you could thread many severed hands together into a functional and fashionable necklace?

That would actually just be a key chain, if you think about it.

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: intrptr

That would be easy to hack by anyone with a fake chip. Or by cutting off his hands and using them to gain entrance. I don't know about this guy, what about the bank manager who can open the vault with the wave of a hand...

Waves severed hands in front of reader... "Open Sesame..."

Perhaps you could thread many severed hands together into a functional and fashionable necklace?

That would actually just be a key chain, if you think about it.

But it would be undeniably more 'handy' than your average key chain.

This by itself perhaps not, but it is a part of the final system of control, the Beast system. It is designed to be a global system and one that is easy to control everything through. Then the Man of Sin can impose his own ways on top of its structures.

Think about it, if all your transactions are carried out through a digital network, then how easy to both track you and to lock you out of that network unless you comply with what the system wants of you?

Basically, then you are relegated to a real, out school black market barter system that would be every bit as illegal and dangerous as any run in a central control country but without the luxury of a widely recognized hard currency of any sort to deal in.

a reply to: TownCryer

So there's the mark of the beast. And then there's the number of the beast.

a reply to: Ultimategamer82

Hi and welcome

You mention of the mark of the beast, a religious term...... Then that means the mark has a religious meaniing. Have you ever looked at the original "mark of the beast" that the Apostle John wrote about?

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