Louisiana Doesn't Need My Distractions

originally posted by: Puppylove
You have tunnel vision, most do, it's why we're where we are today.

No, I don't really care one way or the other. This allows me to have an objective stance on things.

It is about more than him so why even bring him up? Well a comparison between him and the others is what the thread is about.

The problem I have is with people acting like what he did was such a great thing and it really was insignificant compared to what neighbors did for each other but that wasn't worthy enough to be the topic of the thread.

StallionDuck, my man, you are so what the south is about! No matter what kind of # you got flowing your way, you're still looking out for others when you can.

I grew up in the Texas Gulf Coast, Hurricane alley if you will. I remember Alicia, my folks went through Carla and Camille, Ike was the most recent biggie to hit my specific spot on the coast; and then there's always the spectre of tropical storms that don't have a lot of wind to them, but end up dumping lot's of rain, Francis, and Allison in the Houston area come to mind.

And one thing above everything else I noticed was that no matter how much damage someone had to their house, they were looking out for their neighbor too in whatever way they could.

Of course you have your occasional looter or slimeball trying to take advantage of the situation, but you can generally spot them if you're perceptive.

Sublimecraft posted of a huge barbecue someone had in the area of the flooding. That's more of the example of how tight-nit we are down here.

Southern hospitality is world famous for a reason, and it's because of the kind of people we have down here.

Hillary's tweet?

That's not even got the worth of a fart in the wind.

Obama?

Not even worth responding to at this point, he's doing the lame duck coast to January and he plans on handing off to the crone.

Trump?

The man showed up with a semi full of supplies and sundries.

That's 26 pallets worth stacked 108" tall, up to 45,000 pounds.

These are things that are of immediate use and value for a lot of people.

As others have mentioned, he also got more attention to something that the media had not been giving much emphasis to, rather than doing everything it could to poke holes in his motives and his campaign; they've been relentless, haven't they?

Hillary, why don't you keep your distractions to yourself on some remote island?

Just go away.

does anyone think that Trump would have done this if he wasn't running for president? and if he has, please show the evidence.

a reply to: daskakik

I didn't even know about Louisiana's problems until Trump did this. Same with many others. Also that truck is a lot of help. No one neighbor can provide that much help to that many people. Also this thread has many people talking about communities working together. Nothing you've just said is even true.

Also when I say it's about more than Trump I meant in terms of much of what I'm talking about being politics in general, with Trump being one of many cogs in that machine right now and he is representing certain politicians actions at this...

Never mind talking past each other...

Forget it.

I'm fairly certain you know exactly what everything I've said means and are purposely misunderstanding it and often misrepresenting it to get me to lose my temper in frustration.

originally posted by: jimmyx
does anyone think that Trump would have done this if he wasn't running for president? and if he has, please show the evidence.

Of course not. He didn't show up after Katrina. From what I understand, he didn't even donate.

a reply to: jimmyx

Still the right thing to do.

We need to stop questioning why people do the right thing and start #ing ENCOURAGING it when it happens.

Discourage the bad #. Leave the good # alone.

It's a good positive thing that helped others, period end of story. There's no reason not to encourage that, and in doing so help encourage others to do the same.

IT"S NOT #ING ROCKET SCIENCE!!!!!!

a reply to: Puppylove

I do know everything that you have said means but I don't have faith in Trump or any politician to help unless there is something in it for themselves. What is wrong with seeing through some peoples actions for what they are?

I'm not trying to frustrate you I'm trying to get you to see that some people trying to aggrandize something and others trying to bring back down to size doesn't change what that thing is.

a reply to: Puppylove

as to your last sentence.....I have felt like that for years on here, to the point that I'm convinced that there are people on here that regard this type of interaction as "sport"

a reply to: daskakik

No you are trying to frustrate me, because I already answered exactly that.

a reply to: Puppylove

Not really, you acted like pointing out the agenda was punishment. That isn't really seeing things for what they are. Too much drama in what seemed like a forced acceptance.

originally posted by: Puppylove
IT"S NOT #ING ROCKET SCIENCE!!!!!!

No it isn't and when someone posts something like this:

And one thing above everything else I noticed was that no matter how much damage someone had to their house, they were looking out for their neighbor too in whatever way they could.

www.abovetopsecret.com...


It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that whatever a high profile personality does, whether good or bad isn't going to make much of a difference.

a reply to: daskakik

The only reason to point out an agenda is to discourage people from seeing it as an overall positive thing.

Now who has the real agenda here?

There's no harm in seeing it as a positive thing, nor rewarding it's actions as the positive thing it is. So why do you feel the need to try and diminish it?

Agenda or not, the positives greatly outweigh the negative, simply in how it encourages others to do the same alone.

Your nothing but a negative Nancy.

originally posted by: Puppylove
The only reason to point out an agenda is to discourage people from seeing it as an overall positive thing.

Now who has the real agenda here?

Not really, I can say it's a good thing and still say he would not have done it if he was not a presidential candidate because it is the truth. Yes, that is my agenda.

a reply to: daskakik

What are you talking about?

originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: Puppylove

Yeah, some. It's still an action based on an agenda.

a reply to: DBCowboy
So worried about winners. Oh, well.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE
Wasted post cause I pitch in whenever I can.

Still calling a spade a spade. Was Trump there after Katrina? But now he cares and it's for real?

He outdid himself after Krakatoa.

How do you know he didn't send money?

It wasn't his job "to be there" anyway.

Obama and hillary doesn't care and THAT'S real.

a reply to: daskakik

And I can reply that your statement is not needed nor desired, nor helpful in any way. People are well aware there's an election going on. It's not like it's secret hidden thing.

But there's nothing gained by putting any emphasis on that. Do we not want people running for president to do good things to garner support? Would them ignoring people in need because they don't want to be viewed as pandering for support help anyone? Would having them instead focus one hundred percent on mudslinging be a superior state of being?

Yeah, ok, he probably did it to garner support for himself in the presidential race. SO WHAT? I'd much rather him going out and playing super hero to garner support than focussing on simply bashing the actions of his opponent.

There's is nothing to be gained by pointing out he's doing it for political attention, we all already know that, and we want him and all other politicians to know that more than all the mudslinging they can do THESE are the things we appreciate most.

originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: Puppylove
The only reason to point out an agenda is to discourage people from seeing it as an overall positive thing.

Now who has the real agenda here?

Not really, I can say it's a good thing and still say he would not have done it if he was not a presidential candidate because it is the truth. Yes, that is my agenda.

But you know what? What he did or did not do before he became that candidate is not the point. At this point he is a candidate and rightly or wrongly, this is the sort of behavior we have come to expect of our top political leaders -- that they make an effort to show up and do something like this.

One candidate was there and the other one was not.

Had it been Hillary who showed up and not Trump, this would be played as the bad optics it is, but instead because Hillary was the one who blew it off, people are trying to suddenly claim this has never been something we expect as part of the job ... well, guess what? It is and has been since GW and Katrina when the press made it one.

originally posted by: Puppylove
And I can reply that your statement is not needed nor desired, nor helpful in any way. People are well aware there's an election going on. It's not like it's secret hidden thing.

Then what's the big deal?

a reply to: MysticPearl

Good to see I'm not the only one who is baffled.

Puppylove is to be commended on their restraint in dealing with this poster.



I think I got it.

They're saying that because we help other out in the south, Trump didn't need to 'stick his big nose in it' and use it as a 'photo op.'

They're triggered by Trump and can't get past the fact that some people appreciate his gesture.

originally posted by: jimmyx
does anyone think that Trump would have done this if he wasn't running for president? and if he has, please show the evidence.

It's BECAUSE he is running for President that it was important for him to go. The whole point is to bring focus to the issue. It helps with raising money and bringing together other public servants to sort the issue out as quickly as possible. It also encourages those who have lost to keep fighting.

A businessman, not matter how successful or visible, will always have a lesser effect and it's not as important.