July 2016 Was The Hottest Month Ever Recorded

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Bluntone22

Are you actually admitting this is a problem?

I will definitely admit the earth is warming.
I doubt man has caused the warming.
I doubt man can stop the warming.
I doubt that it will destroy the planet.
A hundred years from now we will have some other doom porn to worry about.

a reply to: Bluntone22

I doubt man has caused the warming.

Damn. I thought a conservative was finally pulling his head out of the sand to admit there was a problem and we could actually discuss liberal versus conservative solutions. Nevermind. I guess I got my hopes up for nothing.

a reply to: Krazysh0t


Why is it that liberals idea of bipartisan cooperation is for conservatives to just agree with liberals?

Pollution is a problem. I agree with that.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: intrptr

Only in certain parts o the world but in others it was one of the coolest months every recorded Like Virginia usa

You can't just say this and it be true, you know?

NO, but it is 'oh so typical

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: lostbook
a reply to: Krazysh0t

We've broken the heat record each year, consecutively, since about 2012. I honestly don't know what can be done at this point. I feel that man's activities are accelerating Geological processes but I don't know if there is still time or the will to change mans part in all of this.

Yeah. It's starting to get VERY concerning and just wait, the denial squad will be along shortly to tell us that this is all normal and there is nothing to see here.

Yes, it's very concerning. Even more concerning are those who just give in and say "oh well..."

a reply to: Misterlondon

Depends where you are in the UK i guess - barely rained here since what was a wet June admittedly.

Gardens are desperate for some water and some plants really suffering - especially those with pot plants.

According the to nasa report I read, the temperature was up 0.01 degree, I put the report on my facebook page, as I cannot upload here, as I have adblocker, and have yet to find where its hiding.

We've had no real record-breakers here, but the heat has been consistent. Typically we get dips back into the 60-80s range between the 70-upper 90s range heat waves. It was constant 70-mid 90s this year.

But this is looking like the third year in a row we haven't seen triple digits. Usually we have a week or two of those.

Overall, the temperature doesn't appear to be warming as a whole, though. Last winter was pretty cold, and the two before that were bitter cold for us, multiple low records broken each time. So when I see someone say "hottest month on record," I think 'possible'; when that same source says "for the last xxx months," I start to question veracity.

TheRedneck

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Having fun with the deniers today? (hehe)

But wait................here's a great article on how to curb global climate change:
www.scientificamerican.com...

"Burning fossil fuels to produce electricity or heat is responsible for roughly half of global warming pollution. Tacking on industry in general, including producing cement, steel, plastics and chemicals, accounts for 78 percent of greenhouse gases, which invisibly accumulate in the atmosphere and trap extra heat. Such climate changing pollution continues to increase—in 2010, the world emitted some 49 billion metric tons of greenhouse gases, thanks largely to increased coal burning in countries such as China."

Those are amazing statistiics! So, the answer is to shut down the coal and oil fired power plants as well as to severely curb industrial output. Doing so would cause millions to lose their jobs, so they'd be buy less stuff and dying at an earlier age reducing the world's population and consumption.

But wait! I've crafted a far better solution! All out Thermo Nuclear war...........with China! This would solve the problem in several ways; first, a massive population loss in China would mean the shut-down of those Chinese coal fired power plants; second, killing off half the population in the US and Europe would drastically reduce the need for products of industry and fuel consumption and would probably also shut down the domestic Oil and Gas Business!

But wait, there's more.............a global thermo nuclear war would cause a nuclear winter, shrouding the earth in radioactive debris, blocking sunlight and precipitating a mini-ice age.

Voila! No more global warming!
I shoulda been a scientist!

originally posted by: lostbook

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: lostbook
a reply to: Krazysh0t

We've broken the heat record each year, consecutively, since about 2012. I honestly don't know what can be done at this point. I feel that man's activities are accelerating Geological processes but I don't know if there is still time or the will to change mans part in all of this.

Yeah. It's starting to get VERY concerning and just wait, the denial squad will be along shortly to tell us that this is all normal and there is nothing to see here.

Yes, it's very concerning. Even more concerning are those who just give in and say "oh well..."

I'll take them over the deniers any day. If they believe but are just resigned to inevitability there is chance to change their mind. If they are denying, then they aren't even on the similar wavelengths.

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: Krazysh0t


Why is it that liberals idea of bipartisan cooperation is for conservatives to just agree with liberals?

Pollution is a problem. I agree with that.

You aren't agreeing with liberals. You are agreeing with the vast majority of the world's climate scientists.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

If it was such a devastating problem then why isn't anybody doing anything about it ?

Arguing with those who disagree with you on the internet isn't going to solve any global warming cataclysmic event now is it ?

The fact that very little beyond attempts to make money off it is being done suggests that it's either

A: Not important enough or B: Out of our control

a reply to: Discotech

Bare with him, he prolly still believes the 97% consensus.

And I agree. They have no clue how to stop carbon emissions without stopping industry.
Wind and solar are an unreliable joke at this time.
We have no viable replacement.

a reply to: Discotech

What are you talking about? Did you forget that the Paris Climate Change Conference happened or something? You know the MASSIVE agreement among most of the countries in the world where they agreed to all curb carbon output? You know the same agreement that Republicans have been fighting tooth and nail not to implement since before the agreement was even signed by Obama?

Don't talk to me about nobody doing anything about it. We are TRYING to do things about it, but if people such as yourself who look for any excuse to keep your head in the sand didn't keep trying to block every effort then maybe we could make some progress. Then you have the audacity to ask why no one is doing anything about it? WOW!

Sheesh. This is like a playground bully using a kid's fist to make him punch himself all while saying "stop hitting yourself".

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: Discotech

Bare with him, he prolly still believes the 97% consensus.

And I agree. They have no clue how to stop carbon emissions without stopping industry.
Wind and solar are an unreliable joke at this time.
We have no viable replacement.

So that means that we shouldn't look for one?

a reply to: Krazysh0t

We are looking for one. But we're not going to tell anyone we are.

When I became an official researcher, I learned some things. I had always thought I was unique in my research. Wrong. There are hundreds if not thousands of researchers working on energy solutions every day. But like me, they aren't going to risk the scorn and ridicule they will likely encounter from the closed-minded masses and the ire of the political system for messing up the sweet little tax plan they have brewing. I'm not alone.

We don't need doom porn to energize us. It is sufficient that oil leads to war and immediate ecological damage (as in spills). If you are using carbon dioxide to encourage research, you have succeeded only in driving the research underground.

So you will never hear about the work being undertaken, until the day it is ready to be presented. Just like in the days of Leonardo DaVinci, knowledge must again be kept secret.

TheRedneck

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Yet nothing has changed, doesn't matter if we all agree to lower carbon emissions when China and India carries on increasing their emissions

Traditionally, such pacts have required developed economies like the United States to take action to lower greenhouse gas emissions, but they have exempted developing countries like China and India from such obligations.

And what measures are put in place to curb emissions ? Taxes and fines

Drive a high emission vehicle ? We'll tax you for that
Your industry producing too many emissions ? We'll fine you for that

And do you know what people will do ? They'll take the financial hit especially when it comes to people and vehicles because a £120 a year road tax is cheaper than having to spend £2,000+ on a new (well second hand for most people) vehicle to only pay £60 a year

Have you seen the cost for hybrid/electric cars ? Even second hand they're incredibly expensive and that's not even factoring the maintenance costs of having to buy a replacement battery which cost thousands of £'s or parts which are stupidly expensive.

It's cheaper for me to run a Diesel than it is a hybrid/electric when all costs are considered

Like I said, they only seem concerned with money instead of trying to pioneer a move away from the use of carbon fuels and if it was as important as people of your ilk claim it is then MORE would be done to solve the problem in a shorter space of time

The new deal will not, on its own, solve global warming. At best, scientists who have analyzed it say, it will cut global greenhouse gas emissions by about half enough as is necessary to stave off an increase in atmospheric temperatures of 2 degrees Celsius or 3.6 degrees Fahrenheit. That is the point at which, scientific studies have concluded, the world will be locked into a future of devastating consequences, including rising sea levels, severe droughts and flooding, widespread food and water shortages and more destructive storms.

Actions speak louder than words, yet all I see are words

a reply to: TheRedneck

This doesn't make any sense. If you keep your plans to yourself, then how is it ever going to get widespread acceptance to replace oil?

Well in any case. If you say you are looking. Fine. Though it would be nice if you'd actually bring some of these ideas to the table at some point in the near future instead of keeping them so close to your chest. I can't imagine a solution that no one knows about being too effective.

a reply to: Discotech

All I see here are excuses why you don't want to help things all while "tsk tsking" that I'm not doing enough to help things.