Soccer Player Dies After Being Tasered

This man died after being tasered.
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West Mercia police confirmed that officers fired a Taser at about 1.30am on Monday after responding to reports of concerns for the safety of an individual. The man failed to respond to medical attention and was pronounced dead 90 minutes later.

Concerns for safety sufficient to call the police suggests he must have been excited.

Law enforcement and taser’s are frequently blamed as the sole cause of death in these patients, and some groups in the public believe excited delirium syndrome was manufactured to cover up law enforcement brutality. Taser’s are generally ineffective on these patients as they are relatively impervious to pain, however evidence is lacking to support that they cause sudden death in these patients, although a close correlation is often scene between taser use and death . Law enforcement officers, will still be required to use force to control these patients, however they also need to be trained to recognise excited delirium symptoms and summon help immediately if they suspect it. By training law enforcement officers in recognising excited delirium will can potentially reduce the morbidity and mortality from excited delirium.

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If the police suspect excited delirium they must summon help immediately. When seconds count a specialist in treating excited delirium is only hours away.

Shocking way to go :/

a reply to: robbeh

He was a bright spark that lad.

Respect for the dead anyone?

There has to be a better/safer non lethal weapon than a teaser. It has been around for a long time and with the amount of deaths and injury, it may be time for a better option.

a reply to: o0oTOPCATo0o


People are tased every day and do not die. If he had been shot, people would have complained that he wasn't tased. So they are tased, and people complain about that. It is a no win situation.

Cops are now expected to have degrees in Medicine? How about don't do things that would lead to you being tased in the first place.

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
a reply to: o0oTOPCATo0o


People are tased every day and do not die. If he had been shot, people would have complained that he wasn't tased. So they are tased, and people complain about that. It is a no win situation.

Cops are now expected to have degrees in Medicine? How about don't do things that would lead to you being tased in the first place.

If you have a medical condition that makes you act out then either take your meds or stay home.

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originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
a reply to: o0oTOPCATo0o


People are tased every day and do not die. If he had been shot, people would have complained that he wasn't tased. So they are tased, and people complain about that. It is a no win situation.

Cops are now expected to have degrees in Medicine? How about don't do things that would lead to you being tased in the first place.

If you have a medical condition that makes you act out then either take your meds or stay home.

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
How about don't do things that would lead to you being tased in the first place.

Like watching TV in your own house, minding your own business, patting your pet dog, only to be greeted by a mob breaking through your front door dressed in police uniform, shooting your dog because it woofed at them, and blow your brains out for simply standing up in shock.

Guilty until proven innocent on a cold slab at the local morgue. Yep. 1984 here we come. Shoot / taser first, then ask questions if the victim is still alive.

Sorry dead person - wrong address.

originally posted by: Rapha

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
How about don't do things that would lead to you being tased in the first place.

Like watching TV in your own house, minding your own business, patting your pet dog, only to be greeted by a mob breaking through your front door dressed in police uniform, shooting your dog because it woofed at them, and blow your brains out for simply standing up in shock.

Guilty until proven innocent on a cold slab at the local morgue. Yep. 1984 here we come. Shoot / taser first, then ask questions if the victim is still alive.

Sorry dead person - wrong address.

It does happen.
No knock warrants are wrong.

a reply to: Rapha

And in those cases criticism is legitimate. That doesn't mean it is in every case.

originally posted by: Rapha

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
How about don't do things that would lead to you being tased in the first place.

Like watching TV in your own house, minding your own business, patting your pet dog, only to be greeted by a mob breaking through your front door dressed in police uniform, shooting your dog because it woofed at them, and blow your brains out for simply standing up in shock.

Guilty until proven innocent on a cold slab at the local morgue. Yep. 1984 here we come. Shoot / taser first, then ask questions if the victim is still alive.

Sorry dead person - wrong address.

Don't forget maiming toddlers in their cribs, not paying medical bills for said toddler and not even apologizing for it!!!!!!

a reply to: iTruthSeeker

All Im saying is that people DO die from tasers and other 'non lethal' weapons.
There have been many people who collapse and smack their heads from tasers, heart attacks, ect.
There should be a better way than a high dose of electricity to subdue someone. All I'm saying.
Jeez

originally posted by: o0oTOPCATo0o
a reply to: iTruthSeeker

All Im saying is that people DO die from tasers and other 'non lethal' weapons.
There have been many people who collapse and smack their heads from tasers, heart attacks, ect.
There should be a better way than a high dose of electricity to subdue someone. All I'm saying.
Jeez

It all comes down to physically forcing someone to do something they don't want to do, and to do it as quickly as possible. There is always, always, going to be an element of risk with that.

It's also why many people use the term "less-lethal" instead of "non-lethal".

originally posted by: Kester
If the police suspect excited delirium they must summon help immediately. When seconds count a specialist in treating excited delirium is only hours away.

That bit made me laugh. I deal with those specialists in mental health conditions. Guess what they would do? They'd call the police!

If the police suspect a mental health condition, they will use s 136 to take that person to a place of safety - many psychiatric units have a s 136 suite specifically for this purpose. The police aren't going to sit around waiting for a big van full of men in white coats with butterfly nets.

Police even (though rarely) get called to psychiatric wards to help with violent patients - and that's despite having staff trained in restraints and a cabinet full of sedatives.

a reply to: o0oTOPCATo0o

The taser is the less lethal way. At the point where it is used, often the only other option is putting two rounds into the suspect. So yes, tasering is still the better option even with 'exited delirium' because they still have a much higher survival probability than being shot.

Cops are expected to Know what Dr.s take years to learn, within a matter of seconds, make a decision in those seconds, and then be judged be holier than though rights activists over the next 6-12 months who have never experienced the pressure or responsibility. And all this while being paid a penance.

a reply to: o0oTOPCATo0o

Unfortunately people in this state can die just from struggling. Restraint of any sort can lead to damage. Letting them run wild has obvious dangers. Any restraint system has to be available the moment it's needed and work effectively in a highly unpredictable situation.

A jewellery expert died after being restrained by medics during a psychotic episode five weeks after giving birth, a court has heard.

www.independent.co.uk... c-a7164056.html

a reply to: EvillerBob

I should declare a personal interest in this.

I don't remember anything about it but I was told I caused a stir in Gloucester hospital by jumping up halfway through having a bone put back into place. I tried to leave the hospital screaming, with an obvious injury, while an increasing number of medics grabbed hold of me and dragged me back. They said it was disturbing for the waiting patients who witnessed it.

Eventually they had five people holding me down, including a very large male, and the procedure was completed. They'd given me the maximum amount of anaesthetic they were legally allowed to give and I was still screaming and fighting.

What I do remember is how glad they were to see me leave.

Speaking as somebody who is possibly a likely case for a taser death, I would prefer if they broke my leg with a baton to stop me running out into traffic or whatever. Not much of a choice, and it entails getting up close, which may not be possible.

I personally have been tased approx. 100 times. im still here and kicking. He must have had a medical issue or drugs.

R.I.P. Dalian Atkinson, from a Bluenose.

a reply to: wrc445

He had not long had a a liver dialysis, in fact he apparently ripped his tubes out while ranting at his old man. Evidently he had lost the plot, but no less that was a stupid, stupid thing for the police to do. A witness described them as kicking him while he was down.

I hope not, but I wouldn’t at all be surprised if the scum have it with the scum tonight at the match.

a reply to: o0oTOPCATo0o

There has to be a better/safer non lethal weapon than a teaser.

Billy club/night stick ?
They have been around a long time too.
No batteries required.
Variable output.
Recharge time in the milli seconds range.