The Fix Is In

Here is one of the Democrat candidates who ran in the primaries outlining the election fraud and vote rigging that went on.
This was in June but never reported in the MSM.

www.rt.com...

He posted snapshots of his vote totals during the primary which were totally different to the end result, for example 10's of thousands of votes in one state turned into just 100. They went to Clinton according to him.

Things that 'don't make sense'...


Could you really live with this every day?

They say that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
I've been saying every four years for at least the last sixteen:
"Everybody knows the dice are loaded, Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed..."

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: enlightenedservant

I simply pointed out that both Pres Obama and Hillary are both far more politically experienced than Trump. So if you're going to claim that Obama's experienced, what does it say about Trump? I'm not going to compliment nor criticize Illinois's corruption record because that's not the issue here.

Then I'm not sure your point here since political experience has nothing to do with "need a first".

I was just pointing out that using Obama's "inexperience" as a slight against him was ridiculous, considering he not only had experience but he had more experience than Trump. Hence why I highlighted that part of your post.

You missed my point...she got voted in on name recognition only.. I didn't say she wasn't born there just never invested in the State in anyway until she saw a opening to allow her to win on name recognition only. Bush on the other hand lived and worked in Texas since the 60s. My main point is her political savvy/experience is dubious at best other than her last name.

1. I agree that she took advantage of her name recognition.

2. She's had huge ties to New York through Wall Street and has had ties to all kinds of bankers and hedge funds long before she ran for Senator. Her husband reappointed Alan Greenspan to the Fed Reserve and even pardoned Marc Rich, who was the most infamous Wall Street criminal of all time. Remember, you have to look beyond local politics and wedge issues when dealing with national candidates. To be blunt, it was a genius political move to earn more of Wall Street's favor by serving them Congress, and they're backing her now because they know she's a staunch ally.

3. One of the biggest reasons I can't stand her is precisely because of her actual experience. She's the textbook definition of the term "political insider". You should probably look into her roles while Bill was Attorney General of Arkansas, then as Governor of Arkansas, and then as President of the US. She's been one of the powerhouses in every single one of Bill's administrations and is definitely the evil political genius of the two. It's not a coincidence that Kissinger is one of her close friends and advisors (I consider her the Dem's version of Cheney).

In fact, if you really doubt her political savvy, look into her maneuvers to not only become Obama's Sec of State but to also get his campaign to pay off her campaign's debts. lol And I personally think Martin O'Malley was a better candidate than her, too. But she crushed him before he even got a chance to get started. Even Biden was too scared to face the Clinton machine.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: enlightenedservant

Remember something, I voted for Bernie. I don't even like the Clintons.

On a side note how did you like the "Fix is in" against old Bernie. Didn't it also bother you that this whole time it was only Bernie to challenge her?

I see all these real events going on and people like you take old fashion political rhetoric as some kind of bigger issue.

Can you be more specific?

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: LesMisanthrope

However, I simply loathe Trump and the Repubs even more. Trump called for putting all American Muslims in a database, surveillance of Muslims, closing mosques, etc. That directly affects myself and my family and is absolutely unacceptable.

You are already in a database. We all are.
You are already surveilled. We all are.

As for closing mosques... any Mosques that are proven to preach hatred should be closed and bulldozed.

1. If he was simply referring to the databases that you think we're already in, there'd be no need to make special ones just for Muslims. And you might want to check the 14th Amendment to our Constitution (Section 1).

2. What's the line between "preaching hate", "free speech, and "freedom of religion"? Because churches here (Deep South) openly preach against homosexuals, transsexuals, and even against Muslims. Does that count?

And terrorist groups like the KKK are completely legal here, even though they've killed thousands of Americans, burned down countless African American churches, and terrorized entire communities of Americans for 150 years (including killing 2 of my great uncles). And even conservative talk radio openly says stuff like this: BTW this is the very same Mike Savage who was banned from entering your country for hate speech, but it's completely legal here too.

And listen to this justification for the Christian conquest of Native American lands.
But every single time we point out the "hate" that these groups preach, they claim that it's simply "free speech". So what constitutes "preaching hatred"?

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic

originally posted by: DontTreadOnMe
I don't see her as a particularly good role model for women at all.

Women don't support her because she's a good role model, they support her because of her long standing concerns for women and children.

As far as I can see having concerns for women and children is a big part of being a good role model.
They are not separate issues at all!!!!

I don't think I could look up to a woman who did not feel and express concern for the needs of other women and children....



As far as your fidelity comments...well...some people place more importance on that than others.....so YMMV.

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic

originally posted by: WeRpeons
We can also add he lacks substance to his plans, his lack of knowledge concerning foreign policies and how government runs, communicates poorly and displays juvenile temperament when criticized.

That's just it. They both lie, they both cheat, they both have very high disapproval numbers, and rightly so. They pretty much even out on corruption, so voters' decisions come down to policy, knowledge, temperament, emotional stability, intelligence and experience, And in my opinion, there's no contest. None. No comparison.

You are right, Hillary will most definitely be a suicidal choice for America and probably the world.

And seeing as you already admit you know she has lied, but do not care, even though her lies that are PROVEN are thousands of times worse, and more fraudulent, have been a part of at least 2 million deaths....untold suffering and stress on so many..... that you do not care to visit it because so many are making accusations ?

Then you go on to say that Trump is some terrible evil dude who apparently has caused all of the accusations against the WOMAN that you want to win the election, and we ALL know why you want her to win, solely that she is a FEMALE.....
and you pay all kinds of attention to the PROVEN lies, and all sorts of accusations put against him,

I can honestly say your opinion is just as corrupt as Hillary's.

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic

originally posted by: WeRpeons
We can also add he lacks substance to his plans, his lack of knowledge concerning foreign policies and how government runs, communicates poorly and displays juvenile temperament when criticized.

That's just it. They both lie, they both cheat, they both have very high disapproval numbers, and rightly so. They pretty much even out on corruption, so voters' decisions come down to policy, knowledge, temperament, emotional stability, intelligence and experience, And in my opinion, there's no contest. None. No comparison.

You are right, Hillary will most definitely be a suicidal choice for America and probably the world.

And seeing as you already admit you know she has lied, but do not care, even though her lies that are PROVEN are thousands of times worse, and more fraudulent, have been a part of at least 2 million deaths....untold suffering and stress on so many..... that you do not care to visit it because so many are making accusations ?

Then you go on to say that Trump is some terrible evil dude who apparently has caused all of the accusations against the WOMAN that you want to win the election, and we ALL know why you want her to win, solely that she is a FEMALE.....
and you pay all kinds of attention to the PROVEN lies, and all sorts of accusations put against him,

I can honestly say your opinion is just as corrupt as Hillary's.

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic

originally posted by: WeRpeons
We can also add he lacks substance to his plans, his lack of knowledge concerning foreign policies and how government runs, communicates poorly and displays juvenile temperament when criticized.

That's just it. They both lie, they both cheat, they both have very high disapproval numbers, and rightly so. They pretty much even out on corruption, so voters' decisions come down to policy, knowledge, temperament, emotional stability, intelligence and experience, And in my opinion, there's no contest. None. No comparison.

You are right, Hillary will most definitely be a suicidal choice for America and probably the world.

And seeing as you already admit you know she has lied, but do not care, even though her lies that are PROVEN are thousands of times worse, and more fraudulent, have been a part of at least 2 million deaths....untold suffering and stress on so many..... that you do not care to visit it because so many are making accusations ?

Then you go on to say that Trump is some terrible evil dude who apparently has caused all of the accusations against the WOMAN that you want to win the election, and we ALL know why you want her to win, solely that she is a FEMALE.....
and you pay all kinds of attention to the PROVEN lies, and all sorts of accusations put against him,

I can honestly say your opinion is just as corrupt as Hillary's.

Well Trump does not think the fix is in or he would not be rebooting his campaign to become a GOP poster boy. No more crazy talk, racism, sexism or attacks on his own party, endorsing his enemies Ryan and McCain, and his pack of Wall Street donors have just been made his economic advisory team.

Now who knows how long Trump can behave himself but, clearly he would not bow down to the demands of the GOP if he thought he could not be elected because the "fix" is in.

What amazes me is that people think the a man who insults minorities, women, the disabled, POWs. his own party. Gold Star families, and just about everybody else is somebody who would need a "fix" not to get elected.

originally posted by: enlightenedservant

I simply pointed out that both Pres Obama and Hillary are both far more politically experienced than Trump. So if you're going to claim that Obama's experienced, what does it say about Trump? I'm not going to compliment nor criticize Illinois's corruption record because that's not the issue here.

And what experience was that? He was in the college environment and a community organizer as his experience. WHAT THE HELL IS THAT? He never ran a business, never had to actually produce anything. He was an activist and got picked up by Soros group. While he was in Illinois politics his wife got a 300k a year job as a consultant, never did anything and when he ran for President her job disappeared...hmmm

Just what experience are you talking about here?

I was just pointing out that using Obama's "inexperience" as a slight against him was ridiculous, considering he not only had experience but he had more experience than Trump. Hence why I highlighted that part of your post.

First term wet behind the ears senator... great, you made your point, but what experience did he ever have up until then that wasn't Soros driving it all. Look, I'm bullet proof with whoever becomes President, I did well under Obama, but the 40% plus of America didn't. I'm fine with Hillary or Trump, will not effect me either way, but I do care about the majority that have had a real crappy 8 years under Obama, so talk to them about his experience....lol

(I consider her the Dem's version of Cheney).

Case and point I agree. I don't think she is as smart as the people backing her. She hasn't really been successful in anything, but hey they keep pushing her. Trump is a lot of air, he has some good point, and has made a lot of bad statements that he most likely didn't mean as they came out. In the end who will be able to achieve anything? Hillary will be a 4/8 year lame duck like Obama, and the people will suffer. I do think though that if she does get elected then we get what we deserve.

originally posted by: enlightenedservant

Can you be more specific?

The whole DNC debacle of leaked emails s showing the party favored Hillary over Sanders. The DNC President step down because of it and then was hired by Hillary as her Honorary Chair of Campaign Team the next day...lol

Bernie's chance for a win was much closer than people realized.

The other part was that there was like 16 Republicans duking it all out, but on the democratic side you had the she devil and the old socialist, seems weird that was all that came forward to be president...

I don't know the answer...so I'll ask. Assuming Clinton "wins" the Presidency. If there is enough information and especially if Snowden and WikiLeaks produce something damming...can a group of citizens take it to the supreme court to question the validity of the election?

originally posted by: enlightenedservant

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: LesMisanthrope

However, I simply loathe Trump and the Repubs even more. Trump called for putting all American Muslims in a database, surveillance of Muslims, closing mosques, etc. That directly affects myself and my family and is absolutely unacceptable.

You are already in a database. We all are.
You are already surveilled. We all are.

As for closing mosques... any Mosques that are proven to preach hatred should be closed and bulldozed.

1. If he was simply referring to the databases that you think we're already in, there'd be no need to make special ones just for Muslims. And you might want to check the 14th Amendment to our Constitution (Section 1).

2. What's the line between "preaching hate", "free speech, and "freedom of religion"? Because churches here (Deep South) openly preach against homosexuals, transsexuals, and even against Muslims. Does that count?

And terrorist groups like the KKK are completely legal here, even though they've killed thousands of Americans, burned down countless African American churches, and terrorized entire communities of Americans for 150 years (including killing 2 of my great uncles). And even conservative talk radio openly says stuff like this:

BTW this is the very same Mike Savage who was banned from entering your country for hate speech, but it's completely legal here too.

And listen to this justification for the Christian conquest of Native American lands.

But every single time we point out the "hate" that these groups preach, they claim that it's simply "free speech". So what constitutes "preaching hatred"?

1. Perhaps check all your amendments and then ask yourself why they all seem to be ignored at some point by the corrupt govts. that seem to share power from cycle to cycle in the US. Try placing your angst there.

2. If ANY religious (or other) gathering is planning, inciting or organising violence then they should be shut down and those involved arrested.

The biggest terrorist threat today is radical Islamic terror. We should deal with that first. Perhaps you should consider how the muslim community can best help and get involved.

If you want to get into a contest on who can post the most clips of radical hatred being spewed, then it's radical islam that will win hands down.

originally posted by: MrSpad
Well Trump does not think the fix is in or he would not be rebooting his campaign to become a GOP poster boy. No more crazy talk, racism, sexism or attacks on his own party, endorsing his enemies Ryan and McCain, and his pack of Wall Street donors have just been made his economic advisory team.

Now who knows how long Trump can behave himself but, clearly he would not bow down to the demands of the GOP if he thought he could not be elected because the "fix" is in.

What amazes me is that people think the a man who insults minorities, women, the disabled, POWs. his own party. Gold Star families, and just about everybody else is somebody who would need a "fix" not to get elected.

Well Hillary insults black man, white men, black women, white women, Asians, disabled people - just about everyone.

Can you imagine if Trump said this, for example:



Maybe Trump thinks that a bias media, several legal challenges, and clear vote count irregularities constitute a valid reason to make the accusation. Just a thought.

Get your excuses in early

Hilary is by far the favourite among the general public, you have to go to the outbacks, dark corners of the internet or the backwards states to find Trump majorities.

You guys just see what you want to see and call fix if it doesn't go your way.

But hey, at least you've already planted the seeds for your own defeat. Well done.

I don't like Hillary.
Trump is a joke.
The "fix" was in the day the Republican Party
nominated Trump as their candidate .
He's the Fix.

a reply to: DontTreadOnMe

I don't think I could look up to a woman who did not feel and express concern for the needs of other women and children....

Just like Janet Reno before she burned a bunch of them alive.

If Hillary supporters actually vetted their candidate, half of them wouldn't even vote for her. I don't know if they are rigging polls, but it sure did seem like it in the primaries.

Hillary has flip-flopped policy more than anyone I've ever seen run for president. Has a ton of corruption surrounding her and one of the most disliked politicians in history. On top of that, you have the leaked DNC emails which shows all kinds of shady operations. So much I believe it was 3 people that resigned?

The population is being fed a big bowl of bull# by the very same people who invested millions into a Hillary presidency. Her foreign policy is terrible as can be seen in Libya. Armed ISIS and other known terrorists groups. Ripped off Haiti and Syria is a warzone.

I honestly don't see what more harm Donald could do. Hell, at this point he could try and destroy the economy and we would be in the same situation.