The Fix Is In

originally posted by: awareness10
a reply to: awareness10

hillary supporters burning signs down now

twitter.com...

Oh, come on.

Like only one side does these things.

originally posted by: awareness10

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: awareness10
My opinions aren't very popular, i realize that. I'm just being honest though, it's how i see this playing out.

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The same thing was said when Obama was running for office and the world is still here. We didn't blow up.

Something about politics brings out the ignorance and inner drama queen out of people. If Hillary is elected, it will pretty much be an extension of the Obama administration and he actually did a decent job.

People need to pull their collective heads out of their asses.

hmm was that a Message from the Hillary Fanbase Broadcast Corp?

I feel the same, people need to pull their 'collective heads out of their asses'. Couldn't agree more.

Well, then get crackin'. Just because I do not agree with you does not mean I am part of any "fanbase" group.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Make up your mind. First you act like experience doesn't matter, then you make a long rant about it.

Besides, how does being an elected official at 2 different levels of government not count as "experience"? WTH? And someone doesn't have to be a business executive to be qualified to run for public office. You do understand that right?

originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: -Blackout-

Obama said that his administration may "oversee the election", for the first time in U.S. history?

Can someone tell me what that means? There are something like 9000 voting districts/jurisdictions in the US. Our County Clerk oversees our elections. However in the world is the Obama Administration going to oversee the election?

They said the election system would be protected in the same way all critical infrastructure is, like the power grid.

a reply to: olaru12

Yeah, the 4 days of the RNC where basic 4 days of calling for war. I will never understand why people keep trying to push the claim that Clinton is some huge warmonger.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: enlightenedservant

Can you be more specific?

The whole DNC debacle of leaked emails s showing the party favored Hillary over Sanders. The DNC President step down because of it and then was hired by Hillary as her Honorary Chair of Campaign Team the next day...lol

Bernie's chance for a win was much closer than people realized.

The other part was that there was like 16 Republicans duking it all out, but on the democratic side you had the she devil and the old socialist, seems weird that was all that came forward to be president...

Are you blind? I've already mentioned I actually voted for Bernie in my State's primary and that I don't care for the Clintons. I'm pretty sure I know more about that situation more than you do, since I've been dealing with it since last summer when I was leaning more towards O'Malley than towards Bernie.

I asked for specifics because I don't see how that relates to this thread. You keep moving the goalposts in your posts as if you're deflecting from the original issue here, which is that Trump is alienating most American demographics, will get trounced in the general election, and is already pushing a "fixed/rigged" narrative to save face.

a reply to: introvert

Dont beat up the messenger my fine man.

originally posted by: awareness10
a reply to: introvert

Dont beat up the messenger my fine man.

Nothing at that link shows Hillary supporters were responsible.

Did you make that up?

a reply to: Annee

I'm simply observing and i might add having fun doing it.

I don't have to worry about who's president as much as you guys do.

The irony is that it's the GOP that has been the main culprit in destroying Donald.

Not Clinton, the media, or the progressives.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Either you play by the DC rules, or you don't play.

I think I mentioned the neocons when Trump first declared his bid....

a reply to: introvert

Does it say they weren't responsible?

All I know is if you are poor, gay, tranny, or black lives matter supporter you are 100% with Her. Those are the kind of people my mom didnt want me to hang around.

originally posted by: awareness10
a reply to: introvert

Does it say they weren't responsible?

No, it does not. You have to wait for the evidence before you jump to conclusions.

Your approach is illogical and obviously biased. You made an assumption.

originally posted by: DoctorCowboy
All I know is if you are poor, gay, tranny, or black lives matter supporter you are 100% with Her. Those are the kind of people my mom didnt want me to hang around.

Your mom told you to stay away from poor people?

She must be a lovely woman.

a reply to: introvert

I didnt make any conclusion, just an observation. Perhaps i jumped the gun on that one so forgive me.

Thankyou for prejudging me i love it when you do that.

a reply to: awareness10

Perhaps i jumped the gun on that one so forgive me.

It takes a bit of integrity to admit that. Thanks for being honest.

Thankyou for prejudging me i love it when you do that.

I didn't judge you. Just questioning your motivations.

a reply to: introvert

Thankyou i appreciate your polite response.

I really have no motives to be honest. I just enjoy watching it all from outside the circle, and relaying my opinion from my own clarity on the subject in question.

a reply to: introvert

Blanketheads from all these wars will have their hands full,THAT IS FOR SURE ,but OF COURSE they'll win,WE ARE the best and most on the planet.
THEY just have gear,till we break or it take it.



The 19D way works in ANY country...creative looting of your enemy is a favorite sport to play.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: enlightenedservant

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: LesMisanthrope

However, I simply loathe Trump and the Repubs even more. Trump called for putting all American Muslims in a database, surveillance of Muslims, closing mosques, etc. That directly affects myself and my family and is absolutely unacceptable.

You are already in a database. We all are.
You are already surveilled. We all are.

As for closing mosques... any Mosques that are proven to preach hatred should be closed and bulldozed.

1. If he was simply referring to the databases that you think we're already in, there'd be no need to make special ones just for Muslims. And you might want to check the 14th Amendment to our Constitution (Section 1).

2. What's the line between "preaching hate", "free speech, and "freedom of religion"? Because churches here (Deep South) openly preach against homosexuals, transsexuals, and even against Muslims. Does that count?

And terrorist groups like the KKK are completely legal here, even though they've killed thousands of Americans, burned down countless African American churches, and terrorized entire communities of Americans for 150 years (including killing 2 of my great uncles). And even conservative talk radio openly says stuff like this:

BTW this is the very same Mike Savage who was banned from entering your country for hate speech, but it's completely legal here too.

And listen to this justification for the Christian conquest of Native American lands.

But every single time we point out the "hate" that these groups preach, they claim that it's simply "free speech". So what constitutes "preaching hatred"?

1. Perhaps check all your amendments and then ask yourself why they all seem to be ignored at some point by the corrupt govts. that seem to share power from cycle to cycle in the US. Try placing your angst there.

I don't understand your point here. I want the govt to treat all citizens equally, which is in the 14th Amendment. Targeting Muslims is an obvious violation of that. As is censoring our freedom of speech and freedom of religion (1st Amendment violation). And targeted surveillance of our entire communities is at the very least a 4th Amendment violation against us, as well. Is that what you mean? Or are you saying it's ok to violate our constitutional rights?

2. If ANY religious (or other) gathering is planning, inciting or organising violence then they should be shut down and those involved arrested.

I notice you changed your words. Originally, you say "spreading hatred" which is what caused my response. As everyone on this board should know by know, I'm a pacifist. So obviously I'm against anyone who promotes or engages in violence. But that goes for everyone, not just Muslims.

The biggest terrorist threat today is radical Islamic terror.

And yet we're all more likely to die from cancers, heart disease, the flu and pneumonia, strokes, car accidents, dog bites, and nearly everything else.

We should deal with that first.

1. In the US, more than 30,000 Americans are killed from gun violence every year (with at least 10,000 of those being homicides). Compare that to less than 60 deaths by "Islamic" terrorism per year and I don't think it's the issue that needs the most addressing.

2. If you really feel like that, then you should be against our constant overseas wars & our unwavering military support of MidEast instigators. Drone strikes and "collateral damage" policies only increase the cycle of "murder which leaders to vengeance, which leads to murder, which leads to vengeance...".

Perhaps you should consider how the muslim community can best help and get involved.

(facepalm) I AM part of the Muslim community. You see my avy and sig don't you?

If you want to get into a contest on who can post the most clips of radical hatred being spewed, then it's radical islam that will win hands down.

And of course, you completely missed my point. I'm asking who determines what is considered "spreading hatred". I gave examples of what I consider to be "spreading hatred" in my country, yet all of those examples are perfectly legal here on "free speech" grounds.

In fact, the LGBT community can rightfully say that anyone promoting the story of Sodom and Gomorrah is preaching hatred of homosexuality. So does that fit under "hate speech", "free speech", or under "freedom of religion"?

originally posted by: DoctorCowboy
All I know is if you are poor, gay, tranny, or black lives matter supporter you are 100% with Her. Those are the kind of people my mom didnt want me to hang around.

Umm, is that a compliment or an insult?