'It's time': Edward Snowden just issued a cryptic message on Twitter

originally posted by: Snarl
Snowden is a drama queen. He's going into a prison cell right beside Bradley Manning the very day he returns to US soil.

Doubtful. While I think he should stand trial for what he did, I also think it's also something of a formality. He broke the law, but it was in order to expose other law breaking. You can't use NDA's to hide illegal actions.

He will never return to the US unless immunity is involved. I do hope he can come back some day though.

Snowden, if given immunity is the sort of person that could win a major election in the US. He knows the system, knows the screwed up things done, is intelligent, has a good grasp of foreign policy, and understands technology better than anyone on the various committee's do. He's also extremely popular with the segment of the population that doesn't want him shot for treason.

The link at the bottom of his tweet took me here..

If you have information on the work @Snowden did in the IC, help me tell it truthfully.

twitter

So hmm might be someone doing another story of him?

a reply to: Aazadan

Trump could also pardon him.

Edward has been tweeting attacks against Donald for quite some time. It wouldn't surprise me if Donald will be a target of leaks from the Snowden camp.

The recent criticism from Edward towards Julian Assange via Twitter, to me, shows battle lines being drawn.

In my view, there's a huge psy-op going down on Donald to influence him to destroy his own campaign, and he's falling for it, and Edward may be joining in with more weight to help it along by doing another leak.

I also know from seeing many of Edward's tweets since he opened his account that he really wants to return home. The isolation from home and family must be getting to him.

Just some thoughts.

Why say it's time... why not keep your mouth shut until you have something valid to say..
Kind of reminds me of new accounts here (obviously on a much smaller scale) I have info and will release it when I feel the time is right.. what's the f-ING point of saying that?

a reply to: JinMI

He's a Rorschach ink blot, isn't he? Enemy, traitor, hero, keeper of the secrets; all of these people in just one thread.

"It's time" could mean almost anything. It's lack of information implies something is due to happen and we won't know until he finishes the sentence.

I'd expect the news to be personal to him like returning to the States or taking that residency in Europe. I don't expect a huge revelation because he's been there, done that and the world hasn't changed. Of course, it can't be overlooked that the tweet was aimed at someone else altogether and represents more of an instruction.

Guess we'll see.

originally posted by: Misterlondon
Why say it's time... why not keep your mouth shut until you have something valid to say..
Kind of reminds me of new accounts here (obviously on a much smaller scale) I have info and will release it when I feel the time is right.. what's the f-ING point of saying that?

To whom it may concern it could be something...of some significance. Given the history and position of Mr. Snowden, I doubt it was just some arbitrary phrase. Of course this post and thread could all mean nothing if that is what's eventually presented.

originally posted by: Snarl
Snowden is a drama queen. He's going into a prison cell right beside Bradley Manning the very day he returns to US soil.

Without this "Drama Queen" people would still think it is only tinfoil hats that believe the government is doing what it is doing. This Drama Queen has made official what many people already believed. IMO this is a good thing.
So what he is not jesus and perfect. He is a human being and he did something quite life changing [for him and for people].

I always say that it takes a 'way over the top' character to open eyes. Yes we wish that a stable, nice, father of 2 in an office job would come out with things like this instead of a 'Drama Queen' but that isn't going to happen. Colourful characters are the only ones with the guts and nothing to lose. However their sentiment is in the right place and it takes intelligent people to see that and pick out the important messages these characters are throwing out.


I remember before Snowden, any talk about surveillance and leaking data by governments were literally theories only and enough people didn't even believe it at all. He alone has made it 'official' and a big talking point, which is better than it was before. How can that be bad? The rest I just ignore.

It's almost as if some people don't want hidden secrets to be made public and they achieve it by downplaying and ridiculing whistleblowers. Nice tactic but I don't fall for it.

originally posted by: Kandinsky
a reply to: JinMI

He's a Rorschach ink blot, isn't he? Enemy, traitor, hero, keeper of the secrets; all of these people in just one thread.

"It's time" could mean almost anything. It's lack of information implies something is due to happen and we won't know until he finishes the sentence.

I'd expect the news to be personal to him like returning to the States or taking that residency in Europe. I don't expect a huge revelation because he's been there, done that and the world hasn't changed. Of course, it can't be overlooked that the tweet was aimed at someone else altogether and represents more of an instruction.

Guess we'll see.

I like that. Depending on your views of him could determine the weight of his message.

a reply to: Hecate666

Have you read the book? It's a great read.

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: Kandinsky
a reply to: JinMI

He's a Rorschach ink blot, isn't he? Enemy, traitor, hero, keeper of the secrets; all of these people in just one thread.

"It's time" could mean almost anything. It's lack of information implies something is due to happen and we won't know until he finishes the sentence.

I'd expect the news to be personal to him like returning to the States or taking that residency in Europe. I don't expect a huge revelation because he's been there, done that and the world hasn't changed. Of course, it can't be overlooked that the tweet was aimed at someone else altogether and represents more of an instruction.

Guess we'll see.

I like that. Depending on your views of him could determine the weight of his message.

Thanks. We're part of the *feed me now* generation and will have to sit back, hold our tongues and wait for more info. Beats projecting...

originally posted by: xuenchen
Snowden is afraid he will be bargained away to the U.S.

Sold off by Russia as soon as his info is used up.

All cars run out of gas eventually.

Nuh-uh, how badly does Putin want to keep Hillary and her ridiculous "Reset Button" dog & pony show out of the White House? Remember, Putin's criteria for Snowden staying in Russia was that he not offer any further leaks that would incite America's then recently re-elected president into hostilities with Russia... that's less of an issue now, almost a non-issue if Snowden knows something that deep sixes Clinton's whole campaign and Trump takes the election.

I don't think Snowden leaves Russia short of a POTUS welcoming him back openly or a regime change in Russia.

there are people who change the course of history, and there are those who discuss and criticize those who change the course of history.

go snowden.I hope his ego and aspirations remained untainted, and if he has more information on what the people should know, as opposed to lunch emails or partisan tactics , then bestow that information to the world and reshape it even more.

a reply to: Snarl

SNOWDEN is an American hero. Despite losing everything that mattered to him, i.e. his family, his financial security, a great job, his ability to travel at will, his very freedom, ffs...he gave it all up to tell us the truth. And to the people who have second guessed him, who cry foul because of his means of delivering that truth, my one question to you is what have you done to save our republic? As you sit in your cozy home, able to move freely in your world, do as you please, see who you want to see.

Nothing. You have done absolutely nothing to benefit all of us, only what benefits you and yours.

Minus one thing. The people on ATS cry conspiracy and then you eat up the bs that is fed to you about Snowden. You complain instead of glorify, like the spoiled little brats you are. Until you have thrown it all away. Until you have risked your life and gone on the run, you know nothing. To me, your opinions are worth less than the effort you took to type them.

Years ago, I was involved with a group of people who were doing very bad things. Nothing to the extent of Mr. Snowden but enough that I had to involve several federal acronyms before I fled in fear of my life. I copied office files, I took pictures and I gave the acronyms everything I could prior to leaving. I used an alias. My family was followed, harassed and threatened so from that perspective, I understand on a very personal level what he gave up and the misery that follows after doing something that benefits others but puts his life in jeopardy. I get that most of you don't understand what it's like to live in 30 cities in 9 years. Constantly moving, constantly watching your back. Fearful that the shadow that moves behind you is the end of your fight.

I implore you to reconsider your thoughts and to take note of what I've described. Ask yourself if you could ever be that strong. Because it isn't about you, it's about what is right without fear of consequence. That is sacrifice on a grand level. We owe Snowden a debt that will never be repaid.

a reply to: ColdChillin

First welcome to ATS! second attacking posters here will not earn you any friends or points. Third Some people actually stay in the white and never do anything bad.

You apparently did soem bad stuff. Sorry not going to feel sympathy for you digging your own grave. You created your own hell by doing what you did.

Sure it may be for a "greater good" lol way to assuage guilt if i ever seen it. But sometimes its not worth it.

Snowden can never return to the US simply because of the jackasses that think he's a traitor. Some yahoo would put a bullet in his head. What part of 'all enemies, foreign and domestic' do you not understand? He didn't swear to protect the NSA's secrets, he swore an oath to the Constitution. A government that lies to us constantly, that lies about universal surveillance, lies about what really happened on 9-11, and is systematically demolishing Constitutionally authorized rights, is not worth protecting. It's begging to be revealed in all its craven and corrupt glory.

What he did was not only the height of courage but the most well-thought-out, masterfully intelligent plan I've ever seen. The guy is an undeniable genius and makes both Presidential candidates and all of Congress and the vast majority of our 'representatives' look like the deadbeat wastes of oxygen they so obviously are.

Trump is in process of taking himself down as we speak. The RNC is finally realizing he's not just a loose cannon, but a ticking time bomb. He WILL be taken out of the running, sooner rather than later. I would recommend they demand he take a full mental and physical examination (and will SOMEbody please haul out that laughable 'physical exam' letter he released last year and once and for all expose it as the charade and lie that it so obviously was???) Trump will refuse to partake in a mental examination and at that point, the RNC could override him and annoint someone else. Easy enough to eliminate him if he refuses to step down, and his supporters will forget all about him after the next NFL game distraction.

Clinton has obviously stolen the nomination as well as being immediately impeachable on numerous counts the minute she takes office. She's a waste of effort for the DNC at this point and they know it. It's just that the amount of money she's throwing around is corrupting everything she touches.

I don't know for sure what Snowden is referring to, but after reading almost all of his Tweets, the Intercept for years now and some accompanying material, I'd be willing to bet he's implementing part of his 'dead man's alarm' plan. He'll be releasing something that will take down Clinton before the election, and quite possibly blow up the RNC and DNC permanently. Good riddance.

You want the truth? He's got it and the rest of the world has been listening all along, even if people in the U.S. are oblivious.

a reply to: yuppa

No. I was employed by a company. I was completely innocent of any wrongdoing. I didnt plea down or provide information to save my #. I did it because it was the right thing to do. Their mistake was trying to involve me in it. Second, I'm not looking for flags, points OR friends. I'm asking people to stop reading words and instead, form an opinion based on introspection. To stop judging Snowden until they actually grasp the importance and sacrifice that he has endured.
Let me make it absolutely crystal for you, Yuppa. I live my entire life for others. Character, integrity, honor, kindness and compassion are the only things that separate us from animals so use those tools when considering his sacrifice before blasting him for not doing it the right way.

It's about Snowden, I simply relayed my own experience so that people understand that I went through a similar, albeit, smaller scale of his experience. I know what that feels like. The fear, constantly alone, paranoid that they have found you. That's the worst part, you know. Afraid to sleep, afraid you won't wake. It is imperative that people grasp the psychological torture he put himself through just so you could know the truth. And yet, I fear that is impossible unless you personally live that terror. Personally, I don't wish that on anyone. The weight is great.
I stand by my words.

a reply to: yuppa

Moreover, this is the first time I have ever spoken about it publicly. For 9 years, I've had this rolling around in my head. For an individual who must perpetually be the new guy in town, all I've had is xbox live and my own thoughts. So if I come off strong or mean, that is not my intention. It is simply something that I am passionate about. The "spoiled brat" reference is to a certain population on this site. It isn't obviously all but it's a pretty hefty percentage. If that doesn't apply to you, don't worry about it.

I've read these forums since 2000. Ive watched this site transform over the last 16 years. I'm hardly new but I do appreciate the sentiment. Thank you, Yuppa.

a reply to: JinMI

Perhaps he means it's time to hack into our insecure power grid and shut it down.

originally posted by: JacKatMtn
a reply to: JinMI

I don't think Snowden would consider any deal with Clinton to be binding.... just not getting that vibe...

Perhaps it's more of a move to have her step down as a candidate?

Which would eliminate all establishment candidates?

again.. out of the box thinking....

I doubt she'll step down now, not after obama's endorsement.

a reply to: Snarl

He sold out America for his own personal benefit because he was a special snowflake.

Snowflake ? . he put his life on the line to reveal the antidemocratic actions of our governments in snooping into our lives behind our backs using the NSA and GCHQ .
He revealed 1984 was a thing not just a book.
I thank him for that.

There is more and bigger to come and it may now be time for that to happen , 'It's time'