Smokers, why do some of you do this?!

a reply to: Atsbhct

I haven't smoked since 2008, but when I did (being in the military for much of my 'smoking career'), I eventually learned to do the pinch-and-roll technique to push the ashes and remaining tobacco out of the cigarette butt, then put the unlit, completely extinguished butt in the trash. I would then stomp out the ashes on the ground and move on.

I hold your same disdain for people who just flick butts anywhere and everywhere, especially when there are places to put them within eyesight.

I admit I'm a bit at a loss to comprehend the force of sentiment behind having a cigarette butt on the bottom of your shoe.
I don't imagine that would hurt much. I think it is not nice to litter in general, but I don't quite get the distinction between a paper cup and a cigarette butt!

But then I live in the middle of mediterranean people, and they are terribly messy and take great pleasure in such transgressions... I've lost my sense of self rightiousness, I'm afraid. (but I did quit smoking! So there's that....)

I feel physically sick when u put my had in sand on be beaches and find cig butts in there. And the poor little hard done by smokers wonder why we have their habit. It stinks, it kills and it pollutes.

I find it hard to believe butts jumped up and got wedged in her children's feet!

originally posted by: violet
I find it hard to believe butts jumped up and got wedged in her children's feet!

I've heard of feet getting wedged into butts, but that's probably a different thread.

a reply to: Atsbhct

If there is no ash tray I put it out in my fingers and place the filter in my pocket. Takes all of .2 seconds to not be a slob and litter bug. Never got why others didn't do that too.

I do not endorse it whatsoever. Ive smoked. Butts go in the bin trash or you keep it until there is somewhere to toss it. Not on the ground even on a jobsite.

That being said i think this mother was one of 'those' people. How on earth does a cigarette butt get on ones feet outside a mall? Are you barefoot? No? Then you mean you stepped on a butt with the bottom of your shoe. Or sandal. The horror! Ive never had a butt ever even stick to the bottom of a shoe. If it does? Scrape it on the curb? It is the bottom of a shoe for god sake.

It would have to defy gravity to actually touch ones foot.
If this gets this lady going to complain to staff, she should never step foot on a beach.

Cigarette butts and barefeet galor there. All the time. Gross. But not the end of the world. Inadvertantly putting out a still lit cigarette with your foot at the beach? Been there and that DOES suck. Let out an explicitve. I didnt make a thread though.

a reply to: 3danimator2014

Sounds about right for a Hillary touting SJW. I bet alot of things make you physically sick.

a reply to: DBCowboy
I don't doubt your honesty DC, never did. I took that line from you as honesty and as you say ciggy butt littering has not been on your radar. And that is the larger issue of how we pay attention to the world around us that interests me.
What is and what is not on our radar.
There are many things that are not on my radar, but I am hard pressed to think of them right now (certainly) so I will use yours instead. You are a smoker I gather from some of your posts. Fine. I used to be but it was making me sick and killing me and I finally over them now for 30 years. But that is not the issue. The issue is things beyond our radar. So here we are again with what is not on your radar. OK?

You are a smoker in a nation where most all the people used to embrace smoking. But in the last 50 years more and more has come to light about it's dangers, it's propaganda (sales approaches) the lies the industry perpetuates not only in advertising, merchandising and before congressional hearings, but also to the millions of dollars that have been pumped into the so called 'scientific studies' that prove that smoking is not dangerous to peoples health.

Then there is the general over all knowledge today of just how off putting it is to the people around us, not only in closed rooms but in out door venues too. And also there is the butt issue, which to people like me who were taught from early childhood that littering is the simplest form of social neglect. The case against cigarettes has been made to an astounding degree, seems to me. Yet.

So many smokers still think that the government and the liberals and the wussies are trying to take away their rights to do what they want and they all want to smoke and that this smoking is one example of their love of freedom.
But anyone who does not know by now that smoking is not only a killer, but more than that, the result of the industry's continued control over so much of the population, of the industry's captive (CAPTIVE) smokers is blinded by their own sense of self evaluation, which was instilled by those very corporations in the first place. (see any number of commercials that used to promote smoking as a badge of freedom)

So for a smoker to admit that cigarette butts littering up the place is not something that has ever entered their radar only points to the complete success of the con job that has, not in the issue of smoking alone, but larger issues been forming this society around us now for ages.

I was a sucker for smokes. I have been a sucker for numerous other 'cons' through out my life and I am sure still am, just as you are a sucker for smokes now. You have had this at least as a 'blind' spot in your consciousness, just as you say. But recognizing these blind spots within our selves, these myopic blindness's can suggest that we, none of us, are as right about the world as we would wish ourselves to be.

To those misguided souls who like their air particulate free, this petty rant is for you.

As a smoker, I can only observe that though I detest littering and intentionally use a brand with few additives and a biodegradable filter, I am still tempted to throw my butts on the ground exactly because some folks (obsessing over first world problems) throw a fit and go so far as to lecture smokers (well, me, anyway) on the street to "not forget to throw that butt in the trash" while I'm still smoking it... sigh ... are they psychic? I wouldn't mention if it hadn't happened to me more than thrice.

That lovely sense of entitlement, coupled with a bigoted fascistic paternalism, really slaps my danglers ...

It bothers me almost as much as that oft experienced exaggerated cough, maudlin frown or sneering comment over a stray, imagined or not, waft of my tobacco particulates infiltrating a passing set of virgin nostrils, while we are all on a busy urban street choking on car emissions... irony is only sometimes delicious.

Let us smokers insure against senility as we see fit, and only lecture if we need it, please ... and then at your own peril ...don't paint all smokers as trashy miscreants in need of correction. Correctors, correct thy selves.

I think it's littering and should be avoided, but I'd rather step on a cigarette butt, than in a pile of disgusting mucous or liquid tobacco someone spat on the parking lot.

I want those people to go to jail. I really do. And pay a fine for public filth.

a reply to: Baddogma

Pretty much how I see it. Some have been pushed too far, for them. Pushed outside, then down the road. Then you've got pedestrians with their fake "cough, cough" went they walk by WHERE THEY'VE BEEN PUT. The only time I toss a butt is when I'm driving. Do you know they don't put ashtrays in cars anymore?

ETA: This peach happened last month. I was at a bar in the afternoon for a late lunch. I took my beer out on the patio(no one there). The server says I have to smoke off the patio(can't take your beer). The smoke was wafting off the patio. Where she told me to go made the smoke go over the patio. Insane. It's not about the smoke, it's about control.

a reply to: intrepid

It's been like that for a while. Do they still put the lighter in new models? Or are they just power receptacles now?

a reply to: Autorico

I haven't seen one in ages.

originally posted by: TheAmazingYeti
a reply to: Atsbhct

If there's nowhere to put, put it in your pocket.

Hey I actually agree with you for once!

If you smoke and there's nowhere to put it, pocket that damned thing.

I do it..Or at least I did until I switched to a vape pen(trying to quit nicotine altogether soon).

I live in a small town where probably 3/4's of the population are smokers (blue collar mill/mining town)... so cigarette smoke and cigarette butts are a non-issue for us cigarette-smoking heathen outcasts.

Not to mention the fact that with all these fellow smokers around all the time, it's super easy to find cheap ciggy sources. Can't remember the last time I paid full retail price for smokes.

I'm looking forward to when they become completely illegal... sooper cheap black market prices here we come !

Woo hoo !

a reply to: CranialSponge

I can't see them ever being made illegal. The gov makes too much money off of them.

a reply to: Autorico

I can't see them ever being made illegal. The gov makes too much money off of them.

True enough.

If it weren't for 'sin tax' (booze, cigarettes, fuel, etc) we'd all be seeing much much smaller paycheques.

I'm old, not in the best of health.

Sure I could change my diet, exercise, quit smoking, eating steaks, gnaw on tofu and maybe celery.

But, unless I'm wrong, I'll probably die anyway.