Richard Hanna Becomes First Republican Congressman To Say He’ll Vote For Hillary Clinton

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Not in the least.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

So some Scumbag Politician is Changing Sides ? This is News ? Yawn...........

The gutless RINO fraud is retiring, he has nothing to lose. Typical carpet bagging politician. ~$heopleNation

a reply to: SheopleNation

SURE seems to impress THE HELL out of some people,around here...and the straws they grasp.

originally posted by: Indigo5

Yes...all the polls including Fox News...

Amazing the denial bubble...does it really smell that great in the GOP dutch oven? refusing to let any of the outside world interfere with the fantasy?

Not as good as the putrid stink wafting off the whole DNC. Looks like a few more casualties as more are now resigning.
Fantasy is her supporters denying she's broke the law and has clearly committed perjury. But those are just some small details we'll just sweep under the rug.

a reply to: yeahright

Thank you so much for the info. However, Krazyshot just likes to hear his own arguments and enjoys the sport, methinks.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Of course HELL votes for the screechy one.

She's HELL's baby start to finish--and proud of it.

Oh . . . He'll.

Obviously a terminal idiot.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

I find it encouraging. Do you like the current system, or do you enjoy being taken for a ride by a bunch of elite criminals ? If the establishment tells me something is bad, the opposite is the right decision.

The political-media establishment have become great contrarian indicators.

a reply to: shooterbrody

Lol worldnewsdaily? I don't ever accept that news source. They NEVER tell the truth.

a reply to: Winstonian

I don't like either option, that's why I want to work within the system to change it peacefully over time. Why isn't that ever an option with you guys?

a reply to: Krazysh0t
I agree with you 100%. I think we HAVE to force them out of a 2 party system before we will ever get a canididate that I would agree with. I just can't fight that fight on election day.....it has to be every day leading up to that.

And I have to be honest...I'm overwhelmed...where do we begin? They are going to fight us kicking and screaming.

a reply to: Martin75

I don't necessarily want to end the two party system. Voting third party until it is successful will just kill one of the two existing parties (likely the Republicans if they can't get their act together) and have that third party replace it.

For a while I was like you where it was third party or bust, but now I see there is good in both the mainstream and the alternative. If a third party presents a viable candidate then I will vote for such a person, but if not I will look to the mainstream. Because at the end of the day our choices are going to be narrow no matter what we do. We designed the system like that.

To be honest, I miss the days when the Republican and Democratic parties looked like mirror images of each other, save for differences on a few key issues. That way you could flip-flop your political preferences from year to year a lot easier. It was SOOO much easier to be a moderate in those days. THAT'S what I want to recapture. The middle ground. These days in politics there is no middle ground.

When one party sets itself up to believe the EXACT opposite of what the other party believes no matter what then we can't have discussion and politics breaks down. That's why we are at the point we are at now. At some point we need to step away from the paranoia abyss, take a breather, and remember that things really aren't THAT bad.

ETA: It makes me sad that I get labeled a liberal all the time for the things I say and believe. I miss being a moderate. I didn't change my beliefs though. Politics just drew a line in the sand and said "You are liberal now!". So here I am.

a reply to: Krazysh0t
The missing moderate! Krazy I think that is one of our problems. Hell, MOST people don't like either, because we are moderates. Even when we disagree we aren't the polar opposites that everyone makes us out to be.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Trying being as loudly critical of the other side as you are of Republicans... I cannot recall you ever saying anything harshly negative of the democrats. (Not saying it didnt happen, saying I dont recall seeing it)

That is what gets you called a liberal here as much as anything else... you appear to be a raging cheerleader of Hillary, that is never more critical then very lightly or very passively at best.

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Martin75

Got to root them out of congress its the only way, the presidency is irrelevant beyond getting federal dollars for the third party. If a third party can get some seats they can work on the laws that keep us locked into a 2 party set up.

originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Trying being as loudly critical of the other side as you are of Republicans... I cannot recall you ever saying anything harshly negative of the democrats. (Not saying it didnt happen, saying I dont recall seeing it)

Try reading my posts from 2012 to about 2013 or 14. I'm not going to link them, because I don't need to defend my political beliefs to you. You can look them up yourself.

Not surprising that you came in to talk about me instead of the topic at hand. Why is it that I can never have a conversation on ATS without one of you guys coming in and telling me what I think?

a reply to: Martin75

Exactly. Just look in major social settings. When people don't talk politics (or religion) they tend to get along very easily. It's when politics come into the picture that they get so nasty with each other, but politics are defined by rhetoric not so much truth. We need to learn to look past rhetoric and examine the truth too.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Whatever you do don't look at the cases listed. They refute your argument about special treatment for hillary. Typical clinton apologist.
Guess you are pro boko harem as well.

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Whatever you do don't look at the cases listed. They refute your argument about special treatment for hillary. Typical clinton apologist.
Guess you are pro boko harem as well.

Like I said, get a better source. I already dissected a bunch of your cases so you know I'll do it if you give me a good source. So don't pretend I'm being coy here. I draw my foot in the sand on WND. I have ZERO respect for that propaganda outlet (I refuse to call it a news outlet) and believe it should be on the banned sources list. I'll read Fox News before that site. So no I will not read any of the cases you provided until you get a source outside of WND. Sorry. That's how it's going to be. I know you are going to hate me and insult me for it, but I don't care. Get over it.

Add another to the list. This person isn't a Congressman, but is close to Jeb Bush.
First on CNN: Top Jeb Bush adviser leaves GOP, will vote for Clinton if Florida close

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Who is "you guys?"

We have been trying to work within the system forever. Voting for the queen of the establishment will only continue the downward spiral of the system.

We have a unique opportunity to possibly watch both parties force themselves to restructure as they burn to the ground. Why are people not jumping at this opportunity? Because Trump said a couple of mean things?

It isn't like he is going to be able to put Mexicans in concentration camps or deport Muslims. The system will go on but we might get lucky and have some meaningful disruption.