UFO on the ISS Feed - Nothing to do with the story from 2 weeks ago

Record Date 28/7/2016 - Time 9:07PM EDT

Long Version 6 Min

Short Version 1 Min

Object appears in the passover, which is giving off an unnatural reflection.

Reflections are not totally uncommon (though its usually equipment on the ground), but what's interesting is in 90 minutes, there's two odd looking objects in the general vicinity.

90 Minutes is how long it takes for the ISS to make a full pass.

Very possible if it's an object, the reflection was coming from either of the two objects.



PHOTO - 1st Object

PHOTO - 90 mins+ possible object 1

PHOTO - 90 mins+ possible object 2



Original NASA Footage


Also this image was posted along with the others, it's probably a normal feature in a desert somewhere, but the shadow stumps me. Can't think of what would appear like that. Don't have any more info on the location or what not.


Photo 1

Photo 2 Highlighted

a reply to: boncho

I'll say it.. It looks kinda "probeish"

a reply to: boncho

Some things to consider. IF its a secret part of something of ours they dont want to see? It would still meet the criteria of an "unidentified object flying"...so not at all necessarily alien.

We've no real clue to what our governments have up there...so they really are "unidentified".

So, you win. Sort of.....

Fool me once, shame on you.

Fool me twice, shame on me.

Fool me eight hundredth and forty eighth ... [STAR WARS NG DOUBLE FACEPALM]

originally posted by: JimOberg
Fool me once, shame on you.

Fool me twice, shame on me.

Fool me eight hundredth and forty eighth ... [STAR WARS NG DOUBLE FACEPALM]

Hmm.... I think I've heard this one before:

Is that what Betty Cash said to you when you claimed the radiation burns on her hands was in her imagination?

Or when you identified V-Shaped Lights as fishing vessels.

Or when you compared the O'Hare sighting to a plane crash.

Or when you stalked people on Youtube, and focused on name spelling because the overall message lacked a response.

Or when you claimed a press release invalidated information, then attacked the person when attacking the message failed.

Or is this like when you wanted to cover for Marcia Smith so she didn't have to answer hard questions, but then contradicted Sheehan's testimony.

Well, at least you agree with Sarah Palin right? so you have her in your corner.

Tell us, did they do the same thing Condon did to Carl Sagan to slap him into line, or was it a deal you made to get there in the first place(?)

Condon would later consider blocking Carl Sagan’s entry into the distinguished Cosmos Club because Sagan--though quite skeptical of UFOs--had been "too soft on UFOs for Condon's taste." (Clark, 603)

Take your debunking BS and stay clear out of my threads. If you know what this was, you would've said as much. There's no boats up there so I can see how you may've drawn blanks.

a reply to: boncho

Baahaahaa....owned there Mr oh (its a boat) berg !

a reply to: mysterioustranger

Some things to consider. IF its a secret part of something of ours they dont want to see? It would still meet the criteria of an "unidentified object flying"...so not at all necessarily alien.

I don't think I ever claimed it was alien. A couple weeks ago there was a very stupid hoax pushed out on tabloids, and it was picking up far more press than it deserved (I think it was lens flare or something stupid.) At the same time, meteor detectors had been going off pretty regularly.

I've spent a great deal looking into how this topic has been suppressed over the years. One method is releasing bad info purposely, through unreliable or through dubious sources, so when the story is picked up its immediately tanked.

When I spot something like that I look into the source topic. So I looked through a couple weeks of footage. Saw this.

Could be anything, easily explained by something from Earth. Though, cloud reflections it's not. Plenty of upper atmospheric twilight events, never like that. Closest similar instance was reflecting objects from the ground, Im guessing equipment reflections, though no idea what size they'd be.

The fact there's a reflection, and then two odd looking, one slightly reflective on the next passover I thought was interesting. Though out of the two objects on the second pass, I do admit the one looks like a cumulonimbus cloud, though its oddly placed. More likely the other object if it is indeed still being seen.

Worth posting at least.

Also, on the claims made in the hoax articles, that "NASA's shutting down its feed", seems like convenient info to rebut. The feed doesn't shut down, it just clicks over to another channel, or it goes dark from being on the dark side of the Earth. Now, here's the rub. They state: "we have no control over the feed its all automatic." Okay, but then why does it transfer and stay in the transfer screen for longer periods of time? Also why does it appear to not shoot video over certain areas(?)

The real question is if the feed is controlled, would they tell you? The answer is no.

a reply to: boncho

I don't see anything unnatural in the video/photos. If the lights were in total darkkness then they would be worthy of a discussion. But the clouds nearby are lit. The lit areas in the video that seem to be considered as UFOs remind me of noctilucent clouds, though not as pronounced. Interesting but no cigar.

Object #2 looks like a mature nuclear mushroom cloud. Is there a way to take the timestamp and identify what the land mass, or ocean, the ISS was flying over at that time?

a reply to: boncho

The real question is if the feed is controlled, would they tell you? The answer is no.

Actually, the real question is, if there are all these things flying up there that they don't want us to see, why have a live feed in the first place?

a reply to: boncho

And your sources against Oberg are mostly pretty sketchy, before its news, blogs, forums and Leslie Kean...

originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: boncho

And your sources against Oberg are mostly pretty sketchy, before its news, blogs, forums and Leslie Kean...

Actually, I put the BIN link in as an edit. I thought it was funny because Oberg spent enough time riding someone's Youtube account the person thought they were being stalked (or spiced it up as much for the BIN article.) But the real point I guess was the individual stated their grandfather worked with, and was friends with Wernher Von Braun, even produced photographic evidence to substantiate that fact, but all Oberg did was attack the person's spelling of the name.

Now, the whole point was to show he engaged in attacking the messenger over the message, or he focused on an irrelevant point instead of the point being presented. You know, attacking the messenger instead of the message.

NOW, before anyone wants to accuse me of the same thing. I will remind you that Oberg never actually delivered any message to my thread. He simply made a post intended to mock the subject. There's literally NO message for me to address. So all I can do is address his behaviour.

Oberg attacked his opponent's character or personal traits in an attempt to undermine their argument.

You avoided having to engage with criticism by turning it back on the accuser - you answered criticism with criticism.

And your sources against Oberg are mostly pretty sketchy

You know, I thought the Marcia Smith one was good enough for your calibre Chad. Sheehan did study at Harvard and has the pentagon papers to his name. Maybe Nixon isn't a crook after all?

originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: boncho

The real question is if the feed is controlled, would they tell you? The answer is no.

Actually, the real question is, if there are all these things flying up there that they don't want us to see, why have a live feed in the first place?

I would imagine because if they didn't have one, people would say "See! You are hiding stuff, you don't have a live feed!"

Much easier to just delay the cam switch (which happens often), or "lose the signal" (which happens often) or "aim it over there, where nothing's happening" (which happens often).

Im not saying what I've seen so far is conclusive evidence they are manipulating the signal to prevent certain things from being shown, Im only saying if they *were* doing that, well, they do indeed have irregular camera switches and areas kept out of cam sight, it could happen. Seems you are jumping to conclusions as are others, I simply posted a UFO. A UFO is just unidentified.

It doesn't imply anything more than that.

Given the long history of covering up the subject, co-opting the media, official and promoted debunking, the 'skeptical science' movement (which fostered a plethora of logical fallacies and promotes attacking anything out of mainstream rather than traditionally skeptical thought: which oncep questioned our understanding as humans, as we are unable to be sure of ourselves because of how easily manipulated we are (for instance)....-I could see, how someone might have preconceived notions on the matter.

Don't get me wrong, I fell victim to the social engineering as well. Cognitive dissonance can only last so long with a rational mind.

a reply to: Chadwickus

Oh u mean a live feed that they can cut and say its just ice crystals,yep I agree

a reply to: Chadwickus

i will have to deffer with you on this point , why not assume that its not live in the first place ?
maybe just maybe its an hour or two late broadcast so that they may have the time to edit or cut a portion from the feed

its just 2 of my brain cells are talking here

a reply to: boncho

I watched the short video four times and didn't see an object so I skimmed and replayed parts. What am I missing here? I saw the photo uploads to imgur and thought, "Great!! I bet it's so obvious I'll kick myself for missing it." No. I still don't see an object. Can you give the exact time and maybe draw a ring around it?

I must have ufoblindess today...

a reply to: Kandinsky

Hmm... not sure how you could miss it. If you watch the short vid, where it says "unnatural reflection", the very small but bright object, or small rectangle, is a reflection. If you watch the "long" video, the cam will track that object for a few minutes.

"Hey Boncho, You are loon, that's not a reflection, that's my rolex which I attached to a weather balloon which was free falling as you recorded the footage on the ISS feed?"

Okay, absolutely plausible explanation.... but here:

Picture 1 - Previous GROUND BASED Reflection Object

Picture 2 - Previous GROUND BASED Reflection Object - Image 2

Consider that in watching 20 hours+ of footage, that only once or twice I observed any anomalous reflection incidents. The picture I just posted is one case, where what I presume to be ground-based equipment, shined back a reflection, is the only thing similar to the OP video. Anything besides ground based equipment, whether its a satellite dish, or a laser, or a kid communicating with Pokemon, we know 1-its on the ground, 2-its reflecting.

The OP video may get written off as a simple "twilight" effect, which is a known atmospheric effect, usually affecting many of the popular rocket launches = ICBM launches.

Nope. Its not that. It's not a simple atmospheric effect. It appears to be a manufactured object giving off an unnatural reflection. Let me know if you see it, if not Ill post another video of other (ground based) reflections in comparison.

Im not sure why you aren't seeing the reflection. Please watch again or consider after seeing these ground based reflections. If you are still not seeing it let me know and I will make a video that better describes the action.

a reply to: boncho

I see the shiny-looking column of cloud and nothing near it. Is there a moving object like an aircraft or am I looking at bright areas in clouds?

Is the 'unnatural reflection' the UFO?

originally posted by: Dr UAE
a reply to: Chadwickus

i will have to deffer with you on this point , why not assume that its not live in the first place ?
maybe just maybe its an hour or two late broadcast so that they may have the time to edit or cut a portion from the feed

its just 2 of my brain cells are talking here

I'm going to debunk my own thread here and say, you can calculate where the ISS is at any time using this handy little tool. but to play devils advocate I will also say, 'it's a pain in the godda$$ ass". And even though I've done it to check a few hours ago, I've never checked the current location. Though I don't think they are stupid enough for that, even if covering something up.

You need to adjust up for hours ahead of GMT... and you know what, it's just easier to cut the feed to blue screen (switching cams) which they seem to do for varying degrees of length.

originally posted by: Kandinsky
a reply to: boncho

I see the shiny-looking column of cloud and nothing near it. Is there a moving object like an aircraft or am I looking at bright areas in clouds?

Is the 'unnatural reflection' the UFO?

Okay, we're mixed up here. Let me break it down:

This is the first object - tracked ~6 minutes.

So I saw this little tiny, shiny thing. The problem is nothing should be shiny out where it is. So 90 minutes later, two other objects pop up. This is one of them. and I would argue it's the strongest argument for being part of the object that was seen 1hr and 30 mins before.

I also posted, THIS, but its very cloud like. Its much more likely the other two may be connected. The first object witnessed, absolutely an unnatural light. e.g. manmade object (from what I can tell anyway) and 90 mins later, a good prospect for the same object. Or the object that caused it.