Zika -- Is the U.S. Behind the 8-Ball?

originally posted by: angeldoll

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: DBCowboy

I think the concern is the microcephaly, mental retardation it is causing. People want their babies to be healthy. Without that I doubt there would be so much distress about it.

There's no better way to whip up a panic than giving pregnant women something else to worry about.

What a silly thing to say, you think I'm trying to "whip up a panic" , or the government is? I think you give us all far more dramatic tendencies than we deserve. I would assume you know the threat is real, but for some reason have decided to make this post. I wanted to ask a question of an adult, one that maybe has seen the reports of the microcephalic children being born in South America.

God, no. I wasn't saying you were or the government is. I am saying there is no better way to whip up a panic than giving pregnant women something else to worry about.

I have been visiting The Bump forums to see the level of concern coming from pregnant women. And they are worried.

Nothing I said has anything to do with the Zika threat 'not being real.' Geez.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

Sorry I misunderstood then.

a reply to: Tucket

Yes you should be that is why in PR the environmentalist would not add any type of mosquito killing that could harm the ecosystem, they base this in the facts that so far none of the born mosquito viruses have cause much damage to the human population, but pesticides can become a problem.

a reply to: angeldoll

Actually you can find the studies done of the increase babies in south American born with brain problems is plenty to read about specially from doctors that are from the countries having a problem.

Is interesting to see what they have to say about all this ZIKA related side effects and why is affecting mostly south America women.

The South Koreans have made mosquito-proof uniforms.

SEOUL, South Korea -- South Korea's Olympic committee on Wednesday unveiled Zika-proof uniforms complete with mosquito repellent it says will help protect athletes from the virus at this year's games in Rio de Janeiro.

www.cbsnews.com...

It's not in the fabric used in uniforms when they are actually competing, due to rules and performance considerations.

The US teams will be loading up on insect repellent, which is permitted during competitions.

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Most physicians saying most people would only get a mild fever and feel not well for a couple of days with Zika.
It's the threat to unborn babies that's causing the concern. Recent findings that it can be transmitted from human to human through body fluids also makes it more of a concern, in the event travelers bring it back to the country.

Once again, I am going to ask ... Aside from the unborn who have every reason to be worried about this, who has this disease killed?

Most people won't even know they have it, and when they do, it has very mild symptoms.

So why is this suddenly far more worrisome and needs more funding and more precautions than Ebola which is actually a disease that WILL KILL YOU with about 60 to 80% certainty if you get it?

I remember people who are worried sick about this disease scoffing about Ebola. You might get Guillame-Barre as a complication from this, but you could get it as a complication from most other viruses as well. So unless this disease doesn't act like most others and leave you with immunity, then you really shouldn't be any more worried about this than you are about the annual cold coming around unless you happen to be pregnant, and if this becomes endemic, then most of us will accomplish getting this as kids and be immune by the time we think about having kids in the future.

So has anyone yet found anything to contradict this because haven't seen it.

Wow!
2 pages in and the ignorance on this thread is alarming. Are people really this stupid?

Well thank god the detractors are men and don't have to worry about their unborn children. /s

I SMH in amazement at the downright stupidity of some people.

a reply to: Kukri

Unfortunately some people's concern and empathy does not extend past themselves. There is an epidemic of it these days. Far more serious than Zika.

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Oh look! My taxi's here!

a reply to: ladyinwaiting

Makes no sense right?



Well ZIKA just came home to my neck of the woods and one of my friends husband no he didn't got ZIKA here in GA, he got it in Santo Domingo, from the time he got it, to the time that he was sick and miserable, only 7 days.

The only advise given to him by the doctors is to use condoms for the next 6 months.

CDC ISSUEs AN UNPRECEDENTED TRAVEL ADVISORY FOR FLORIDA

There are now 14 cases of the virus in Florida caused by local mosquitoes. The affected area, about one mile in diameter, is located one mile north of Miami. The good news is, mosquitoes apparently don't travel very far. (poor things, they are so tired and sick with zika, they can barely fly. lol!)

In the meantime, Congress has still not passed a bill to take anti-zika measures. They are on summer break.
I wonder if they will go to Miami? Wanna bet?

fortune.com...

a reply to: marg6043

Glad your friend is okay, marg.

originally posted by: Kukri
Wow!
2 pages in and the ignorance on this thread is alarming. Are people really this stupid?

Well thank god the detractors are men and don't have to worry about their unborn children. /s

I SMH in amazement at the downright stupidity of some people.

Who's saying it isn't bad? It's very serious for the unborn, but for the majority of the population: men, women, children ... it is a relatively mild illness like the annual flu.

And we are treating it like it's a worse thing that Ebola which would kill all of us if it were here and actively infecting people.

Heck, the Spanich Flu of 1918 was worse.

a reply to: ketsuko

And we are treating it like it's a worse thing that Ebola which would kill all of us if it were here and actively infecting people.

Who is treating it that way?

Let me answer my own question.

Nobody.

We watched as this virus moved into South America, deforming babies; changing lives, and not in a good way. It is now here in one of our most popular vacation spots in summer. It is summer.

The warnings are to prevent pregnant women from traveling to those areas. It is sensible. The warning are sensible. There is nothing about it that employs scare-tactics, or is misleading, or a cue for people to panic.

It is information that is needed. Other people are interested. I am interested. I don't want a generation of deformed babies and broken hearted parents like occurring in South American.

Additionally, like with any virus/flu, it is dangerous for the sick, people with impaired immune systems, and elderly, and they have died from this virus.

It is a threat, but to compare it to ebola, is simply not on the chalkboard. By anybody that I've seen.

a reply to: ladyinwaiting

The government for one, but people are more worried about it. I guess the immediacy of realizing you might actually catch it will do that even if the disease itself isn't all that bad unless you happen to have the bad luck of being pregnant.

The reality is that there is little we can do to stop this. We really cannot eradicate mosquitoes and with global travel being the way it is, it was always going to be just a matter of time. We should all be very thankful that Ebola is still much more difficult to transmit.

But you should understand that when the next strain of novel virulent flu breaks out, like Spanish Flu, this is the kind of situation we're looking at, and then it WILL be time to panic.

a reply to: ketsuko

The reality is that there is little we can do to stop this

Yes we can. We can kill the mosquitoes. If they for the moment are in a one mile area, we can declare war on them, and kill them.

a reply to: ladyinwaiting

Thanks, my friend, this is so funny, I remember a month ago when I told my friend at the gym that she needed to be careful during her trip to Santo Domingo, she is a language professor at the local University and this summer she was in charge of a language trip with students in that part of the Caribbean for an entire 4 weeks, her husband was to wait until the last two weeks of the month to spend time with her as a vacation, none of the students go sick and neither my friend, her poor husband got bitten by the mosquito as soon as he arrived.

But he is fine, the whole sickness lasted 7 days, he is a healthy middle age adult.

a reply to: marg6043

Well, you warned them! Dang, it wouldn't have kept me from going, but I sure would load up on the repellent!
Still, seven days. Ouch.

What were his symptoms, did she say? Vomiting and junk? or just fever and feeling bad?

a reply to: ladyinwaiting

That is the problem the government knows that the mosquito itself is not much of a danger to humans, they also know that the babies born with brain problems is isolated for now to south America, PR is an example of what the virus is not, look at Santo Domingo, they are infected too, but no babies been born sick.

I do expect some cases coming up in the following months as more children are born during the ZIKA outbreak.


So while big money pharma have already a way to eradicate mosquitoes the thing is that the damage to the ecosystem could no be erasable, so nobody wants to take that responsibility.

Everything in nature is link In the food change, until it reach us humans at the top.

The ZIKA mosquito is like the dengue and Chikungunya they are weak mosquitoes as soon the weather gets colder they can not survive.

The scare is that if we can get an outbreak of any of this tropical virus in the US, yellow fever could be next.

As it happen temporarily before in some northern US cities but this was from the 1600s to the 1800s when it was a burst of immigration and mobilization of populations across the nation.

a reply to: ladyinwaiting

So far his symptoms were maladies, body aches and pains, stomach flu symptoms but he was able to go around and was not bed ridden, but could not eat.

No rash.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: ladyinwaiting

That's the kind of President and Congress we have.

Yes, a President and Congress that allows Americans to travel overseas, but some people apparently want that stopped!