What Really Motivated Trump To Run For President !

I have been reading a few articles on when Trump decided to run, like when he really got motivated.
I would say triggered even.
The consensus is two fold, the real start of this whole thing is believed to be from the White House Correspondents' Dinner on April 30 2011.
He was so badly roasted both by Obama and Seth Meyers, it was very humiliating for him and he left very quickly.
He came on an invitation and was targeted more than normal at this event, and maybe he deserved it at the time, irregardless, people that sat around him sensed that he was really ticked off about the whole thing



It was kind of too late to jump into the 2012 election because he hadn't really planned to, he then endorsed Mitt Romney. Who he basically thought of as failure for the last 2 month of the election cycle in retrospect. Basically he said Romney disappeared and stopped fighting
Look how Romney changed his tune, the biggest treacherous traitor, what he did to Ron Paul in 2012 and to Trump in 2016 is pathetic.
Especially when you listen to Romney in this brief video.


After Romney lost in 2012, only a few days later Trump began prepping for the 2016 election.
I think 2 things triggered Trump to run:
1)Getting roasted by Obama so publicly, essentially right to his face, this wasn't a Twitter roast.
2)Romney getting beat, not getting the job done.

Finally as Trump had said many times in the past in interviews that if things got really bad and nobody could get the job done he might step in and run. Well both happened from his perspective, and here we are.

Trump is a "If you want something done right, do it yourself" type of guy.

I think it's kind of funny that both Obama and Romney are both to blame for Trump actually being triggered into running for President.

He also tried to run in 2000 no? So nah, he got the presidential bug from before.

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

I'm assuming you have evidence of this?

Surely there are some statements that have been made to validate this "Trigger Motivation Theory" of yours?

Like was said, sorta made a bid back when and dropped out early. Remember? He was less committed then... and a bit more up front trump.

Because of TnC, I'll just link the video bit from 2011. Language warning...

YouTube

maybe... just maybe.... he's sick and tired of the nonsense like the rest of us?... he has the money and the power to get involved and make a difference..

Yep.

You done figured it out.

The only reason Trump is running and winning is to get back at a couple of beta male poster boys- a second-rate president and a third-rate talk-show host.

originally posted by: Agit8dChop
maybe... just maybe.... he's sick and tired of the nonsense like the rest of us?... he has the money and the power to get involved and make a difference..

Then wouldn't that void the whole "non establishment" claim? Isn't it $$ and power that wrecked politics to begin with?

since this day trump's face has been full tomATo

say what you want about Obama, but he's got to have the best comedic timing of any president the world has ever seen. now I'm about to watch this seth meyers

kudos to trump for being able to take a joke graciously but I have a feeling when Obama said "well handled" trump's blood pressure shot up double

loling at the guy "i'm assuming you have evidence of this" we're really out here in ATS

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

It's a strange thing... trying to uncover someone's motivation for doing things. Basically, there are only three things to help form a logical answer to the "What motivates this person" question (and only two of them are somewhat fact based).

1) What does the person say?

2) What actions has the person taken/performed?

3) Based on 1 & 2... what do we "THINK" their true motivation is (beyond what they say it is). Of course there is no way to prove this.



As it pertains to this thread (and to answer my own points/questions):

1) What does Trump Say?:
I go back to an interview with Trump I saw recently that was conducted back in the early 1980's (at around the time the Trump Tower was being constructed in NYC). During the interview, Trump was specifically asked if he had aspirations of becoming President one day. While he didn't dismiss it outright, he did say (paraphrase) that he felt in order to do what had to be done he would have to say a lot of things that many people wouldn't be comfortable with. As it relates to current events, this isn't far off from what is going on now.

2) What actions has Trump taken/performed?
As far as a straightforward political career, there isn't much to go on here because he has never been an elected (or appointed) official. Going back to the general time-frame of the construction of the Trump Tower back in the 1980's, Mayor Ed Koch (as best as I can understand it without making too many assumptions) was NOT a fan of Donald Trump. Not a fan at all. However, when Trump offered to take over the long failing Ice Skating Rink, Mayor Koch tried to call Trump's bluff and (unfortunately for the Mayor) Trump delivered the project on time and under budget and it is still functioning to this day. I fully acknowledge that Trump may or may not have done this for altruistic reasons but again, I can't KNOW what is in the mind of another person beyond what they say and do.

3) Based on 1 & 2, what do I "THINK" Trump's true motivation is?
I really don't know. I know that in the general sense I like what he has to say about ILLEGAL immigration because I find it repulsive that under the past several Presidents (D's and R's) our borders have gotten exactly ZERO respect. I understand the desire that people have to come to this nation (my wife and her family included) but I find it incredibly important that people do so through legal channels (and also, the process of legally becoming a Resident is nowhere as near as impossible as amnesty supporters claim it is... and I know this first hand so the excuses to not hold water with me).

I know that I like what he has to say about the current-events-monster-of-the-week Islamic Terrorists... which is an actual REAL thing. I think he stepped in a big pile of poop when he made his remarks about preventing "all Muslims" from entering the country when he SHOULD have said we will not blindly take in people from chaotic, war torn parts of the globe that apparently have an inherent hatred of the West.

Rather than go on and on about specific topics I'll just say I have no way of knowing "Why" Trump is Running. We all know money is power and he has enough money (and influence) to maintain his lifestyle without having armies of alleged journalists digging into his past. So why WOULD he run?

I can't say this for sure but I'm starting to wonder if it is possible, JUST possible, that he actually is grateful for the opportunities this nation has provided him and he want's to give something back in the biggest way he knows how.

I want to stress, one more time, that I can't pretend to know what is in Trumps heart and mind.....

I would say though, I wish I had the time at the moment to answer my 3 questions about Hillary. Maybe that is for another thread.

He's only there because a lot of people hate him- he was chosen as the one to run against the devils own, to give it a chance in hill (actual Freudian-slip, there. Funny) of winning.

How else do you get someone as despicable as a Clinton into office, now that anyone with ears or eyes knows how thoroughly terribly evil they are?
You bring in a jester.

The worst part is that I still don't think anyone will realize that third party could still technically 'win', assuming votes are actually counted.
Not that they are, of course. It's just a big game to keep you from seeing the truth. They keep us closely divided (when was the last time someone won with more than 70% of a vote?) on purpose so that when they pick the winner that they actually want against popular demand, people say it was close enough that I guess its possible that 'my side' lost.

Broken to the core- burn it down.

I touched on this in another thread, the other day in hopes somebody would make a comment or two about it.
My political science professor had went to the Dulles school of politics. ( Former employee of J.F. Dulles State Department.)

He and I played golf every Saturday morning for a couple of years.
We often discussed the possibility that there could be varies types of Manchurian candidates in existence.
Basically, one would be available for every type of political situation.

The DNC / GOP rivalry has always been something of a dog and pony show spectacle for the masses.
I learned that lesson well from life long friend Palmer Long (oldest son of Huey P. Long).

He always found it amazing that the American people knew so little about how their own government operated.
( Both Federal & State )

Which brings us back to DT. The right man, saying the right things, at the right time.
How in the world was he able to slay so many professional politicians (who held real power) so effortlessly and without any apparent help ???

Now he's in the ultimate battle ( for the universe, or so it seems ) against the ultimate evil tyrant and the entire existence of the world will depend on who wins and who loses.

I really wish both the above were alive today, they would have loved watching this mess unfold.

Buck

originally posted by: JimNasium

originally posted by: Agit8dChop
maybe... just maybe.... he's sick and tired of the nonsense like the rest of us?... he has the money and the power to get involved and make a difference..

Then wouldn't that void the whole "non establishment" claim? Isn't it $$ and power that wrecked politics to begin with?

what claim?

anyone who says trump is the establishment is nuts.

Koch Brothers
Murdoch
Romney
Clinton's
Rockefeller's
Bush

all came out and voiced their anti trump positions and refused to back him.


doesn't that make it obvious to the people that Trumps a massive thorn in the side of the elite? they have done everything possible to stop his candidacy.. to me, that says he is the right man for the job. The elite are scared Trump will clean out the US government...

Trump should be concerned.. JFK did a fraction of what Trump wants to do.. he was knocked off along with his brother! trump better make sure he selects his security!

Interesting just doing some further reading and it seemed Trump for the 2012 election cycle was enjoying doing celebrity apprentice too much and didn't want to give it up, and it was lots of easy money for him, as well.
Paid way better than the Presidents salary which is 400K annually plus tons of perks, but Trump already has those.

Celebrity apprentice paid him on average $15,257,613 per season on the reality competition show.
He is making way less money for this gig, money is not the motivator for Trump in making this move.
They say money equals power, which is true to some extant, but if you have billions and the world strongest military under your control now you have real power. Really Trump could tell anybody take a few million or a cruise missile, your choice, if he gets into power.
I think you will see all kinds of countries doing deals with him. They will be too scared not too, all he has to do is make an example out some poor fool just once, and they will all cower in fear of the new American Alpha.

If Donald Trump is elected POTUS, than we (as a nation) need to stop and wake up. The Donald and his VP's names together sound out Trumpets. Trump-Pence. Stock up on beans and rice...and Jesus Christ

The trumpets are about to sound...IMO

...maybe they already have.

Those videos were pretty interesting. Obama certainly wanted to humiliate Trump, which he successfully did.

Who knows what was going on in his mind there.


As for the person that said he saw a video about Trump being asked if he would run for President back in the 80's. I saw that video too. And he said NO. That he would have to say things that politicians don't say.




Another interesting documentary about him:

a reply to: Agit8dChop

See BlueJays post right below Yours. He got paid $15M per season for reality t.v. And 'donating' $100s of thousands over the years to The Clinton Cabal also gets You "inside the ropes". That is unless You're typing these replies from Your own Bahamian island?

You typed "The elite are scared Trump will clean out the US govt.." Is that why He has donated all that $$$? You are aware that Trump has stated that He will "hire the right people to get America great again.." per His son, that will be His job and all the "new hires" will actually run things..

So what happens to the people that are now running these things? They all get a "golden parachute"? Or does He think He is going to line them all up and yell "YOU'RE FIRED"? The people running these things are elected officials.. How will He do this?

Hi, I'm nuts.

a reply to: JimNasium

Easy, get on the Trump Train and kiss the ring, or get a golden handshake or golden parachute, or as one boss once told a person he was letting go, "sorry you just aren't cut from the 'insert name of company here' cloth, and so we have to let you go".

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

Donald Trump is indeed motivated by revenge for a myriad personal "affronts." He has no sense of humor, and wants to humiliate everyone who has not accepted his arrogant boastfulness. Trump will try to destroy everyone who has not taken him seriously, and reward anyone who fawns on him, including heads of hostile foreign states.

The military doesn't trust Trump with power, he is To impulsive and runs his mouth to much!!

On the outside chance he wins....Trump will not be given the power to carry out any of his "promises"

The real power in America has no need to swagger around like The Donald, they prefer to remain hidden behind the curtain.

I can't understand how anyone believes a damn thing he says....

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

What really disturbs me is that I think you might be right