The Nails of Christ

The three nails of the Passion have found their way into the symbolism of many races and faiths. There are many legends concerning these nails. One of these is to the effect that originally there were four nails, but one was dematerialized by a Hebrew Qabbalist and magician just as they were about to drive it through the foot of the Master. Hence it was necessary to cross the feet. Another legend relates that one of the nails was hammered into a crown and that it still exists as the imperial diadem of a European house. Still another story has it that the bit on the bridle of Constantine's horse was a Passion nail. It is improbable, however, that the nails were made of iron, for at that time it was customary to use sharpened wooden pegs. Hargrave Jennings, in his Rosicrucians, Their Rites and Mysteries, calls attention to the fact that the mark or sign used in England to designate royal property and called the broad arrow is nothing more nor less than the three nails of the crucifixion grouped together, and that by placing them point to point the ancient symbol of the Egyptian TAU cross is formed.

The spear of destiny is according to mythology bearer of one of the nails, and rumours has it, Hitler took it from a museum in Austria

Trevor Ravenscroft's 1973 book, The Spear of Destiny (as well as a later book, The Mark of the Beast, claims that Adolf Hitler started World War II in order to capture the spear, with which he was obsessed. At the end of the war the spear came into the hands of US General George S. Patton. According to legend, losing the spear would result in death, and that was fulfilled when Hitler committed suicide and Patton died in a car accident in an army camp.

The condemnative story is that as he made the nails to crucify Jesus Christ, the blacksmiths were condemned to wander the earth and never settle.

Another version does not condemn blacksmiths. It says that the blacksmith was addressed by God in a dream, where he was told to make four nails, but only hand over three, as the fourth was intended to pierce the heart of Jesus. In return God gave his descendants the right to wander the earth (rather than cursing them to it) and also the right to steal from non-Romanies, without breaking the commandment Thou shalt not steal.

The story goes whoever the Roma ( filthy gipsy dog as a few called it ) find the three missing nails will lift a curse..

The resemblance of both stories are uncanny, but they share yet the same background.. The people who were given a chance to enter the old esoteric ways of the gypsies, from what I have seen, are most of the times awkward..

Last thing big J is going to want to see if he comes back is nails or crosses.

Very intresting post but im not sure what information you are trying to give to us as the post seems to be a gathering of information with no clear reasion or point.

a reply to: tikbalang

One of these is to the effect that originally there were four nails, but one was dematerialized by a Hebrew Qabbalist and magician just as they were about to drive it through the foot of the Master.

There were four nails... One for each limb

The nails for the feet were driven through the heels on each side of the "stake"

And his arms were nailed above his head...on both sides of said stake

There was no cross

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: tikbalang

One of these is to the effect that originally there were four nails, but one was dematerialized by a Hebrew Qabbalist and magician just as they were about to drive it through the foot of the Master.

There were four nails... One for each limb

The nails for the feet were driven through the heels on each side of the "stake"

And his arms were nailed above his head...on both sides of said stake

There was no cross

In the family tomb discovered at Bethany of Martha, Mary and Lazarus there are crosses carved on ossuary boxes. That's the first recorded instance that can be found of a Christian and the cross, both Mary and Martha were at the crucifixion.

Jesus wasn't even crucified as he switched bodies with Simon of Cyrene and witnessed it while laughing at the foolish ones who were crucifying his former body only.

This was done so eventually the Romans would adopt a religion that would destroy them as Simon Magus was the real founder of Catholicism and it shows in its Babylonian practices.

What ever happened to the Nazarenes?

a reply to: NOTurTypical

Consider what the video said. They were adept at this practice...

The easiest way to do said execution is a stake...

And... there is no mention of a cross beam

ya?

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: Akragon

Consider what the video said. They were adept at this practice...

The easiest way to do said execution is a stake...

And... there is no mention of a cross beam

ya?

Thats the problem with some people
Its all about crosses and nails and no crosses and the colour of Christs skin, black, white or brownish

The whole story is completely lost on you (not just you AK)

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

But hey, keep bickering about nails.

i wonder if they grew after he was killed

a reply to: Raggedyman

ya some people eh...

except... thats the topic

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: Raggedyman

ya some people eh...

problem though, thats the topic

Yeah some people eh...

Sad that this type of topic can divide people so bitterly, does it really matter

Just asking

a reply to: Raggedyman

Only to fundies....

they KNOW the exact way and hour etc etc...

originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: Akragon

Consider what the video said. They were adept at this practice...

The easiest way to do said execution is a stake...

And... there is no mention of a cross beam

ya?

Thats the problem with some people
Its all about crosses and nails and no crosses and the colour of Christs skin, black, white or brownish

The whole story is completely lost on you (not just you AK)

How do you know that it's not you the story is lost on? Hard thing to confirm (impossible).

Personally I feel every word has meaning so even a sliver of the wood he was nailed to is important.

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

Genesis 6:4 The Nephilim...when the Sons of God went...

One and only, no. Only begotten Son, yes.

But hey, keep bickering about nails.

i wonder if they grew after he was killed

I wonder many things but not that. Jesus never died. He was "born", descended (hell to conquer death), resurrected and ascended. You can't kill the immortal.

Or the esoteric meaning of a non historical legend-turned-oppressive religion's sacred texts.

originally posted by: Muffenstuff

originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: Akragon

Consider what the video said. They were adept at this practice...

The easiest way to do said execution is a stake...

And... there is no mention of a cross beam

ya?

Thats the problem with some people
Its all about crosses and nails and no crosses and the colour of Christs skin, black, white or brownish

The whole story is completely lost on you (not just you AK)

How do you know that it's not you the story is lost on? Hard thing to confirm (impossible).

Personally I feel every word has meaning so even a sliver of the wood he was nailed to is important.

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

Genesis 6:4 The Nephilim...when the Sons of God went...

One and only, no. Only begotten Son, yes.

But hey, keep bickering about nails.

i wonder if they grew after he was killed

I wonder many things but not that. Jesus never died. He was "born", descended (hell to conquer death), resurrected and ascended. You can't kill the immortal.

Or the esoteric meaning of a non historical legend-turned-oppressive religion's sacred texts.

I am sorry, I was being intentionally facetious
Oh no wait, i was being patronising, oh no wait

I am sorry, if the nails, wood the cross was made of, the amount of magnesium in the spear tip, colour of the grapes the age of the soldiers....is irrelevant to me

Yeah
Jesus took our place, He took our sin

The rest, let them with faith in knowledge bicker, I wont

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: NOTurTypical

Consider what the video said. They were adept at this practice...

The easiest way to do said execution is a stake...

And... there is no mention of a cross beam

ya?

The Romans did both, the reason why I included the second video was to show the family of Mary, Martha, and Lazarus etched crosses on their ossuary boxes and not a stake. They were witnesses to the crucifixion.

a reply to: tikbalang
The cross is more important than the nails that were allowed to hold him there.

a reply to: Raggedyman

Whatever you were being (when you figure it out) has no bearing on me.

Legends and myths don't either except for the esoteric Wisdom. That is their purpose not what they are used for today (scam and control people and make lies easier to believe).

a reply to: tikbalang

mark or sign used in England to designate royal property and called the broad arrow is nothing more nor less than the three nails of the crucifixion grouped together, and that by placing them point to point the ancient symbol of the Egyptian TAU cross is formed.

Pictures would be nice.

Broad Arrow
from a blog: Arrow project- continuing research interesting project. Check out the prisoner pants picture on the page.

three nail cross

originally posted by: pthena
a reply to: tikbalang

mark or sign used in England to designate royal property and called the broad arrow is nothing more nor less than the three nails of the crucifixion grouped together, and that by placing them point to point the ancient symbol of the Egyptian TAU cross is formed.

Pictures would be nice.

Broad Arrow
from a blog: Arrow project- continuing research interesting project. Check out the prisoner pants picture on the page.

three nail cross

Lol the mark in the stone has nothing to do with Royal property or nails! It's actually called a Datum used by Ordnance Survey as an indication of height. Google Datum mark and see

a reply to: pthena

Do you think that the third nail would be used in a crucifixion?

I gather it would work better if only the wrists were nailed and the weight of the body allowed to hang, more painful too.

you could loosely tie the legs and get the same result.

I like the three nail cross though. Good image.