Compuslory voting in Australia

a reply to: crazyewok
LOL...What a great name for a politician.....
Richard 'Dick' Pictures.
Got my vote.

a reply to: Marcus069

Does anybody know why it was made compulsory and are we the only country in the world to have compulsory voting?

My guess, and its just a guess, is that the "political class" in Australia was concerned a bout the appearance of legitimacy in the outcome of elections where voter turnout falls below 50%. So, before the law, turnout fell below 50% which made the elections laughable and worse, made the results laughable in terms of their generating a legitimately elected government.

I would also hazard a guess as to why turnout became so low........either that the system in Australia has degenerated to a one party system, or in the alternative, that the "two" major parties are so closely aligned they offer no real choices.

At any rate, once a country, (taxing jurisdiction) has a political system that has degenerated to the point that voting is compulsory, it signals the system has likewise, degenerated into an Oligarchy.

After this charade of an election in the US, it wouldn't surprise me at all to see compulsory voting in the US.

a reply to: Marcus069

I, too, am not a fan of the compulsory vote, because I'm pretty willing to bet that since it's something that people have to do, they become even more apathetic about the whole process. Even though we in America have a pretty abysmal voting turnout each election cycle (relative to the amount of people of voting age), at least people do it at will instead of by force.

But that said, I do like the type of election system than you all have down there better than ours here in America, although both have their faults. At least you all get to vote FOR people all the time...at least in theory.

a reply to: Marcus069

I've just been reading the writings of Sue Maynes who refused to pay council rates and then lost their 600k property. Her and her other half went all the way to the High Court and only there did they learn about how Australians have manourved by successive govts to step out side the consitituion and enter into private law via contracts with the govt.

This contracts requires that we vote.

here is a short grab of a page of notes I had open before I came onto the forum

There is no such body as the Australian Government mentioned in the Commonwealth Constitution.

In the Australian System of Governments, the people:
Vote only for an Australian Government
Have not voted for “The Parliament of the Commonwealth” since 1972
Vote for people who must enter private registered agreements with the Aust Gov’t to be able to stand for election.
Have compulsory voting

The Electoral Commissioner stated in writing to us that “consent to enrolment is not required – all eligible electors are enrolled at the address where the person lives” The person means the Legal name held to the COMI address.

If you would like read more about this from Sue Maynes download "Theft of Australia - Fora News - June-2009"

its an eyeopener

originally posted by: kaelci
a reply to: Marcus069

It's only a $20 fine if you don't vote

it's 50 now, but you just send it back saying you did vote and they don't question it and drop the fine

a reply to: Marcus069

If it is even 10% as bad in your countryas it is in America with regards to the political voting system. Take the $20 Fine every time, No questions asked.

a reply to: Azureblue
Thanks for that.
FYI just to add a bit....in 2004 the State of Western Australia removed the Crown and Monarch from 80 odd Acts of Parliament without the knowledge or consent of the Electorate. (under referendum requirements) Thus the State of Western Australia ceased to exist because it illegally seceded from the Commonwealth of Australia by breaking the Federation Agreement (the Commonwealth Constitution (s106)) that had formally and legally bound it to the Crown and to the People of the Commonwealth of Australia.
Apparently....
Now Im not getting into the queen/monarch/republic argument.... its more about the underhanded dealings of government along the lines of your post.

originally posted by: CovertAgenda
a reply to: Azureblue
Thanks for that.
FYI just to add a bit....in 2004 the State of Western Australia removed the Crown and Monarch from 80 odd Acts of Parliament without the knowledge or consent of the Electorate. (under referendum requirements) Thus the State of Western Australia ceased to exist because it illegally seceded from the Commonwealth of Australia by breaking the Federation Agreement (the Commonwealth Constitution (s106)) that had formally and legally bound it to the Crown and to the People of the Commonwealth of Australia.
Apparently....
Now Im not getting into the queen/monarch/republic argument.... its more about the underhanded dealings of government along the lines of your post.

Yes, it seems our political masters loyalties lie somewhere other than to the Australian (west) people. This means they are either willing participators in which case they are guilty of treachery, or they have a gun at their head.

As Sue Maynes points out:

The Australian people have never voted for these things in a referendum.
ALL the above information is in clear defiance of the real wishes of the people who have NE VER voted at referendum to;

approve the increase of power of any body or govt agency outside of the Parliament of the Commonwealth of Australia,
hand over our ‘power’ to international bodies and corporations
step out of the protection of the Commonwealth Constitution.
be coerced to any legal action in anything but common law.
be manipulated into agreeing to any commercial activity that gives an assumed power to a foreign jurisdiction.
be governed by any body that is not completely “of” and working completely within, the Constitution of the Commonwealth of Australia.
be bound to Private Law agreements we did not even know existed!!!

The very nature of the infringement system is that denies natural justice and reverses the presumption of innocence and facilitates collection of hidden tax without limit.

Scott Bartles site, Truth Now and his FUQ video, documents quite well how all "govt departments" seem to be private companies. This and the writings of Sue Manynes is further evidence that what Anna Von Rietz has been saying for years.

The Know Your Rights Group and aussiespeedingfines.com have some good techniques for resisting, fighting back and educating people at the same time on some these issues. They both make good use of the constituion as part of the defence.

If we all took our fines to court, sooner or later there would be a 10 year waiting list.

But is Australia the only country in the world for compulsory voting? Can anyone confirm?