Why are people proud of being 'old-fashioned'?

Uff, star for that!

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Profusion

I like more old-fashioned food in the sense that I like to cook as much as I can from scratch.

Are you going to argue with me that it's better for me to cook as much of everything as I can from a bottle, box mix, or can using as much processed convenience food as I can find to substitute for the actual authentic ingredients?

I also like to crochet my own throws instead of buying store bought ones. It means picking my own patterns and colors.

Speaking of cooking, or rather eating which is my favorite subject, do you remember or do you have access to a wood cook stove. If you do you know where I am going from here.
My grandmother and mother used the same stove for at least 60 years and I can still taste the biscuits and beans they cooked. I would pay extra for food cooked this way in a cafe or dinner, if I could find one.

when I see people going through streets catching invisible pokemons...I'm proud to say...I'm old fashioned.

a reply to: Profusion


With age comes wisdom. That will always hold true.

When you get older than dirt, you will have the answer to your thread question.

a reply to: MarioOnTheFly

You mean they exist but are merely invisible?

Here I thought they were nobexistant.

This Pokemon thing is a symptom of a larger problem with society. So is all this superhero crap in the movie industry.

Recent generations are not forced to grow up and wear their big boy pants. As a result we have a shrinking labor market because these individuals are such snowflakes they can't hold down jobs unless there are safe spaces and trigger warnings.

THAT is moral decay - the refusal to take responsibility for one's own actions and attitudes and the refusal to act in the best interests of society at large.

Some guy just got creamed on his motorcycle. Put down the damn camera and HELP HIM!

ETA, I saw a video last night of a drunk college-age kid laying on his back and vomiting profusely. Instead of turning him on his side and clearing his airway, his "friends" filmed him as he sprayed vomit.

I don't know if he died, but I would say it is likely. It was ghastly. All they did was laugh, point, and film him.

That is not how ethical, moral human beings act.

a reply to: Profusion

I think "old-fashioned" means many things, depending on the person and situation. I'm more likely to call myself old-school, but not necessarily in a moralistic way. It's more likely about how I do things rather than any moral purpose behind it.

For example, when people find out I don't own a microwave oven -- and I don't want to -- they're shocked and wonder how I get by... I say I'm old-school, and I much prefer my toaster oven to a microwave. When folks find out I don't have a dishwasher and I wash dishes by hand, they're shocked... but they usually find out when they ask why my glasses are so crystal clear and are more shocked that it's because I wash my dishes by hand. None of this makes me think I'm better than anyone else. To each their own. But this is how I do things and it works for me.

But doing these old-school can definitely have it's advantages. When we were in our 20s, my hubby was working structural steel at a place with ancient equipment, and hubby used to complain about it like crazy. But he learned so much from that experience, and that has served him well in later years. Nowadays he complains because so many of the guys he works with don't know how to do anything if they don't have this or that super spectacular tool to do it for them. Much like so many kids don't know how to do simple calculations in their head -- not even on paper! -- but need a calculator to do it for them. I understand why... schools stopped teaching these fundamental skills. I was one of those moms who said, "Hell no!" and made my kid learn anyway... and I said at the time, "I'm old school." My daughter hated me for it then... she really appreciates it now. Those skills serve her well.

We are all a work in progress. God isn't finished with any of us yet. The questions really isn't "which is better;" we can hold onto the tried-and-true, while also understanding there is always room for improvement.

Being a man and being old fashioned to me means not being a little girl.

As a woman I don't get the hankering for days gone by, when you couldn't vote, your husband could rape you whenever he wanted, if you wanted a divorce you lost your kids and were considered damaged goods. When death in child birth and infant mortality rates were high. When contraception was hard to get, and simple infections killed your children. Housework was a full days work and you weren't allowed the vote. Anyway I guess that's enough to make my point.

originally posted by: WilsonWilson
As a woman I don't get the hankering for days gone by, when you couldn't vote, your husband could rape you whenever he wanted, if you wanted a divorce you lost your kids and were considered damaged goods. When death in child birth and infant mortality rates were high. When contraception was hard to get, and simple infections killed your children. Housework was a full days work and you weren't allowed the vote. Anyway I guess that's enough to make my point.

The way you worded that implies that anytime your husband has sex with you, it is rape, just that sometimes, you want to be "raped" too.

People are proud of all kinds of stupid crap. It generally depends on who their friends and family are, giving them positive feedback for their stupid ways. We're all suckers for being praised by our peers. Even if they're idiots.

originally posted by: Caver78

originally posted by: Profusion
You hear it all the time, "I'm an old-fashioned woman", "I'm an old-fashioned man." Why are people proud of that?

To me, "old-fashioned" simply means one adheres to a previous version of matrix programming.

Those who think that being "old-fashioned" is something to be proud of generally seem to think that people were more moral in the past. Therefore, holding onto the morals and values of the past is commendable.

When I think of "old-fashioned" values, the Dred Scott decision comes to mind.

The court held that Scott was not free based on his residence in either Illinois or Wisconsin becausehe was not considered a person under the U.S. Constitution–in the opinion of the justices, black people were not considered citizens when the Constitution was drafted in 1787. According to Taney, Dred Scott was the property of his owner, and property could not be taken from a person without due process of law.

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That's the epitome of "old-fashioned" values to me.

Why are people proud to identify with things like that?

"Old-fashioned" values and morals were not better than that of today. It's simply a previous version of matrix programming.

I believe the duty of all of us is to eliminate all matrix programming from our lives. That is the only path to freedom in my opinion.

Oh Pish,
Screw the "matrix".

Old fashioned means craftsmanship.
Like grabbing some hand tools instead of going out to Ikea and dropping more cash on something you could have fashioned yourself if you had a clue.

It means manners,
Yes Sir, Yes Ma'am
Opening doors for someone just because it's polite.

Old Fashioned means food that isn't GMO

Old fashioned means doctoring yourself with what's available and not seeing the latest pill on TV and hounding your doctor for it.

It means a LOT of things you failed to include on your OP and NONE of them are a bad thing, or unfashionable, or have anything to do with a catchphrase from a movie.

Exactly! So happy to see your rundown! Old fashion is not just wishing for older days gone by...it is appreciating life. I have always said I am old fashion! I love swing and big band music. Even though that was way before my time! I learned how to spin wool straight from a lock of fleece and make an awesome fisherman's sweater for my husband. I know how to sew garments and bedding!

Basically, I enjoy life! Understanding the basics! This was not based on others per-programmed matrix, but what I seeked out to do. I am still open about the new world. I can program software, party with my kids and even sing their modern karaoke music! I can be more a jazzy singer!

To me, saying you are old fashion just means you APPRECIATE the foundations that led to the life you are living.

Good manners should not be un-pc today! Honestly, I do compliment any younger person who exhibits good manners, whether family, friend or stranger! They do need to hear it truly is respected in these times!

Old fashion is recognizing that understanding and respecting others and the world around them is the foundation for a more enjoyable future! Egad...I am rambling...going to stop here!

originally posted by: Substracto
Because in the old days people had values, more values than you actually see today, we have so much more education available to us than in the old days, but still, people do so much more stupid sh*t now, than before.

This is correct.

IMO, respect is what lacks this era.

originally posted by: tinymind

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Profusion

I like more old-fashioned food in the sense that I like to cook as much as I can from scratch.

Are you going to argue with me that it's better for me to cook as much of everything as I can from a bottle, box mix, or can using as much processed convenience food as I can find to substitute for the actual authentic ingredients?

I also like to crochet my own throws instead of buying store bought ones. It means picking my own patterns and colors.

Speaking of cooking, or rather eating which is my favorite subject, do you remember or do you have access to a wood cook stove. If you do you know where I am going from here.
My grandmother and mother used the same stove for at least 60 years and I can still taste the biscuits and beans they cooked. I would pay extra for food cooked this way in a cafe or dinner, if I could find one.

Even better, buy a cast iron Dutch oven! Make a nice hot bed of coals in your fire pit or fireplace. Throw in a roast, veges and potatoes into that oven and close the lid! Set it in that pit and heap those coals on top. Just leave it for 2-3 hours! Yum yum... Delicious dinner that few can duplicate in a modern oven! Though, honestly, I only use it to aggravate others roasting hotdogs over their campfires or scare family that I haven't even started dinner! The looks on their faces when we are enjoying a full course meal is priceless!

a reply to: ketsuko
I don't it implied that at all. I meant rape was legal inside of marriage, a woman had no right to say no. Looking back at how women children and minorities were treated, nevermind the lower classes by the upper classes, cant say I see the "olden" days as being full of respect, as others think.

a reply to: Profusion

That's a very well-crafted ad hominem, and good use of the genetic fallacy as well. All wrapped into one. So succinct too.

Well yes ... now how about you answer the question!

The question was, 'how old are you?'

P

originally posted by: TheLaughingGod
Being a man and being old fashioned to me means not being a little girl.

Way to turn this into a sexist discussion. Is there a reason you consider girls to be so inferior?

I consider myself to be old fashioned, and if someone said that "back in the day," they'd get their ass handed to them. (Because that's how us old fashioned people handled disputes)

originally posted by: WilsonWilson
a reply to: ketsuko
I don't it implied that at all. I meant rape was legal inside of marriage, a woman had no right to say no. Looking back at how women children and minorities were treated, nevermind the lower classes by the upper classes, cant say I see the "olden" days as being full of respect, as others think.

What you describe may have happened on occasion, but the respect for others was so much different from what you experience in modern society. You're cherry picking one of two things that you read in a google search, and assuming that our lives revolved around such events. They didn't.

The biggest differences between then and now was that people knew how to communicate with each other. We didn't need an app, we didn't send text messages, we spent the time to travel and meet face to face. We spent time together. Work ethic was important, and people showed up for work on time and did what they were supposed to do. In 40+ years working, outside of two to three weeks of vacation per year, I missed exactly 5 days of work, three when my older son was born, and two when my second son was born. Co-workers were like family. Employers provided health coverage and retirement plans, and I was able to put myself through college with zero student loan debt. Kids could play in the streets without fear of being snatched. We rode our bicycles and roller skated without requiring helmets and pads. Sadly, for the vast majority of people, those days are long gone and forgotten.

a reply to: ArdentAngel

Way to jump to conclusions.. I don't see how you got to that conclusion.

Being a man and being old fashioned means I act less like a little girl than younger men do.

I'm an old sensItive guy.
Born out of time...55 now.
Old Fashioned to me would mean in all my wild runs and all my debauchery...never been caught braking the law..EVER.
No parking tickets NO CREDIT cards no cellphones.
ME the Ciniq and my Mac G5 which I have NO idea how to operate well... AND we now see that result.
I like MY OWN designs which are better than films
I sketch ,pen and ink and YES if appropriately tortured Calligraphy(ICK) Paint in Guasche and sculpt ,but NOT where I live now I need MUCH more space for prosthetics and other obssessions.
NO customer who has paid me for me work wasn't satisfied.
I have eaten money for that as well.to keep the rep.

a reply to: ArdentAngel
I didn't google search anything, they're all things that are common knowledge as far as I know. Just pure facts that as a woman very little respect was given in the past.