Madonna's Influence on Society

Many people blame Madonna for being part of the decline of Western civilization. What's your opinion on that?

I feel like a bit of an expert on this subject since I grew up with Madonna. Her album True Blue was one of the first albums I ever owned. So, I may be biased. I see Madonna as having had an entirely positive impact on my life. I believe some of Madonna's songs are among the most inspirational songs I've heard. The following list includes just some of her inspirational singles:

"Live to Tell"
"True Blue"
"Open Your Heart"
"La Isla Bonita"
"Express Yourself"
"Cherish"
"Vogue"
"Rain"
"I'll Remember"
"Secret"
"Take a Bow"
"You'll See"
"Frozen"
"Ray of Light"
"The Power of Good-Bye"
"Music"
"Die Another Day"
"Love Profusion"

I can't think of any pop stars who have had more positive hit songs than Madonna. I see her impact on society as being positive.

I wasn't really into her when I was younger, except through the occasional girlfriend who would play her albums ... >.> during ... uh ... yeah.

But now that she is older...





Oh my!

Someone who had been discarded by the emperors of pop, and promptly dug herself out of the grave. I have a special investment in her. She is on target.


Mike Grouchy

a reply to: Profusion

Of course she is fantastic

Ha...no one's mentioning her talent.......best chic singing voice ever, huh!!

One month after the Paris attacks, Madonna had a pre-scheduled concert in Paris.

After the show, she walked to Place De La République with a few people,

and this happened.





A little seen video.
It is awkward, and real.
I find it touching, and rewatch it occasionally.


Mike Grouchy

a reply to: Profusion
Why must music be positive? I've always detested positive music. Aggression, romantic tones(often somber) or sad music are my favorites. Or otherwise powerful music such as by the Red Army Choir.

Her best period was Ray of light in the UK. That is a great song.

a reply to: Profusion
Thanks for this thread, Profusion, I am quite enamoured of her music & voice; she is also a beautiful spirit. I did not know that I would be waxing nostalgic about Madonna tonight, and I am reminded of lovely memories.

La Isla Bonita never fails to bring me to a special place, as do so many of her songs.
As far as her influence on western civilization - I know that early on in her career she had shock value to some, albeit to be fair the west back then seemed easily shocked to me, at least in comparison to Europe. However as I see it, she is about positivity, love and strength, and I also think she teaches people to be fearless.

Some people attend sporting events, but concerts are my thing. I have been to only two where they felt like what (IMO) a "church" should feel like - and they were Madonna (Rebel Heart) and Prince (Welcome 2). Having attended several actual churches (and never been moved to return) - I have never before felt the reverence and closeness to the Creator that I felt at both of these shows...and it was not due to fandom, but solely due to the spirit of the performers.

Celebrations & affirmations of life in the truest and most palpable sense.

originally posted by: mikegrouchy
One month after the Paris attacks, Madonna had a pre-scheduled concert in Paris.

After the show, she walked to Place De La République with a few people,
and this happened.

Thank you for sharing that video Mike, I had not seen it before, and it was everything real, just as you said.
One more reason to appreciate Madonna and what she gives of herself so freely.

originally posted by: Profusion
Her album True Blue

Great Album, it takes me back to the late 80's and I still have a copy of it somewhere (lol, now I'm listening to it on YT) and it also, with me, directly links with the rise of techno and the infamous "Blue Monday" by New Order. I recall night clubs in Perth (Northbridge) that played both and served up west-coast coolers and islander coolers to me for mass consumption (or so I was told).

OMG!! FLASHBACK!!

My macho male side groans to post this.



This particular song and video has special significance for me.

a reply to: Profusion

Interesting that you don't find 'Papa Don't Preach' to be inspirational


I compare Taylor Swift to Madonna. Most of their songs are not great but most are very solid. (Crazy for you is personally one of my favorite songs)

One doesn't hear that many Madonna songs on the radio. As big as she was in her prime, one would think their would be a Madonna song on all the time.

a reply to: Profusion I know about three things of her and that's it. Personally none of her music influenced me in any way... its pop and fun to watch her videos.
The worst music out there, is certain rap and hip hop promoting sex and violence... very bad for young minds and society...IMHO. Some rap and hip hop is safe to listen too...
I have examples, but will refrain from posting the utter mess and garbage and or the acceptable versions of style in music artist work what not.
Interesting topic.😊

Madonna is a very talented artist, and an even better business woman. I applaud her willingness to be Madonna whatever the press or the public say. Her fan base speaks for itself. Sure, she has her faults just like the rest of us, but she did it "her way", and it worked. Besides, who else can get away with this...

a reply to: Profusion

She is quite remarkable with her many talents.

a reply to: Profusion

She only influences people who listen to her music or watch music award shows or follow her...can't say she ever influenced anything I did and I I'm quite confident she does not have any influence on my two young boys...she's a washed up musician that I'm getting really tired of...just move on and I'm a product of the 80's

originally posted by: peppycat
The worst music out there, is certain rap and hip hop promoting sex and violence... very bad for young minds and society...IMHO. Some rap and hip hop is safe to listen too...

I would expect you to be opposed to such things. You're coolness personified, and you're very close to nature. Balance and harmony are at the core of your being.

originally posted by: ksiezyc
Why must music be positive?

There's no reason music must be positive. In the original post I was trying to prove that Madonna's impact on the world was mostly positive. I think I did a good job since no one in this thread has disputed the claim.

originally posted by: Sublimecraft

originally posted by: Profusion
Her album True Blue

Great Album, it takes me back to the late 80's and I still have a copy of it somewhere

After you posted this I found the album on YouTube. I remembered that I used to know every word to every song on that album at about 10 years old. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing.

originally posted by: chrismarco
She only influences people who listen to her music or watch music award shows or follow her...

Consider the butterfly effect...

Avril Lavigne: Madonna is my idol

Lady Gaga, Madonna, Katy Perry Make Peace in Met Gala 2015 Instagram Photo, Joke They're "Dropping a Single"

Taylor Swift on Madonna Praise: 'Now I'm Dead'

Madonna and Britney Spears kiss!

Do you understand how artists inspire each other?

Madonna made the mold for many female musicians who came after. The influence is monumental and lasting.

a reply to: Profusion

I wouldn't know. She isn't for me.

They all sound like Hit Factory type productions...meant to compete against musical geniuses like Michael Jackson, Boy George and Huey Lewis.

I have my bands that mean a bunch to me, but seriously after 40 years of analysis....people look too hard for meaning and depth within tunes that have no much merit beyond a TV jingle for selling soap powder, but still people cling to it.

As if there was a meaningful message at all. What would that be anyway, "make yourself better"? That's a kind of mixed message to begin with but...ok...message delivered, song over.