You Can Be Pro-Cop and Pro-BLM

originally posted by: Annee

Where are the blacks speaking out against the "gangsta" culture. I'm listening.

Have you looked? Probably not, otherwise you'd find the answer to your question.

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a reply to: introvert

If a logical grievance causes a KILL it is no longer any form of logic but a divisive tool,by those who publically espouse the kill.

originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: introvert

If a logical grievance causes a KILL it is no longer any form of logic but a divisive tool,by those who publically espouse the kill.

Does that apply to both police and BLM/supporters?

originally posted by: introvert


I asked if you think they may have a reasonable grievance in cases of unprofessional police conduct?

I don't know. It would be wrong of me to assume that I know how BLM thinks.

They may see a simple arrest of someone breaking the law as wrong. Obviously I can't agree with that.

a reply to: neo96

This guy for one.

You didn't answer the question. You showed one guy with a record.

Who are career criminals?

a reply to: introvert

If a cop murders someone that MUST be a given.
But then again there is the nasty issue of CATCHING them and the corruptive support of the officers involved.
ADD to that the meat grinders of the larger gang plagued cities,I wouldn't live in one as a result.
THE people who do, are as MAD PEOPLE to us outside them sometimes,then we both get upset when the assumptions of our own ideals are defined incorrectly by the other.
WE agree otherwise of course.

a reply to: Tsubaki

So have I, as a conservative,gun loving,christian.

I didn't form a political group because of it.

a reply to: DBCowboy

I didn't ask you how BLM thinks.

I asked if you think they have a reasonable grievance in cases of unprofessional police conduct occurs?

Can we not support the police and also hold them accountable?

a reply to: cavtrooper7

So you would agree that we can support law enforcement, and also support those that fight against their potential corruption?

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: DBCowboy

I didn't ask you how BLM thinks.

I asked if you think they have a reasonable grievance in cases of unprofessional police conduct occurs?

Can we not support the police and also hold them accountable?

I support BLM's right to protest.
I support police that perform professionally.

a reply to: introvert

We have to remain wary of BOTH like hawks!
And yes.

a reply to: introvert

This has a lot of responses that I haven't gotten to, so forgive me if this has already been elucidated (which it most likely has), but I agree with your premise in general terms.

Police are an important aspect of our society, they have a dangerous high stress job and we should definitely support them in the noble pursuit of their duties.

At the same time, I have grown outraged by the videos that I've seen of incredibly cruel, incompetent, or even murderous cops killing black men. Outraged. In this way, yes, I absolutely agree that black lives matter...absolutely.

I suspect that the push back that you'll get from your premise is the notion of supporting BLM as an organization, because some are going to be unable to do that due to the behavior of that organization (not that ideal! That's an important distinction). BLM does not represent me in my anger at the abuse of black men by police, but my anger exists and persists all the same.

Peace...

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: DBCowboy

I didn't ask you how BLM thinks.

I asked if you think they have a reasonable grievance in cases of unprofessional police conduct occurs?

Can we not support the police and also hold them accountable?

I support BLM's right to protest.
I support police that perform professionally.

Then you are not all that unreasonable.

BLM has a logical grievance and the police deserve our support.

We should hold them equally accountable?

originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: introvert

We have to remain wary of BOTH like hawks!
And yes.

Then we agree.

a reply to: TheElectricPriest

Very well said.

The point now becomes why we are willing to address the violence of one and not the other.

a reply to: Liquesence

Who are career criminals?

That moment where BLM defenders 'argument' falls apart ?

This is it.

www.weeklystandard.com...

a reply to: introvert

You make it sound like if you don't support BLM, then you are for racist cops.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Tsubaki

So have I, as a conservative,gun loving,christian.

I didn't form a political group because of it.

Not everyone bends over to take it.

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: DBCowboy

I didn't ask you how BLM thinks.

I asked if you think they have a reasonable grievance in cases of unprofessional police conduct occurs?

Can we not support the police and also hold them accountable?

The people who were actually wronged by the police have a grievance. Everyone else has an agenda.

originally posted by: Vroomfondel

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: DBCowboy

I didn't ask you how BLM thinks.

I asked if you think they have a reasonable grievance in cases of unprofessional police conduct occurs?

Can we not support the police and also hold them accountable?

The people who were actually wronged by the police have a grievance. Everyone else has an agenda.

Who was actually wronged though?

I'm not really seeing anyone wronged - - except maybe the police.

EDIT: in recent headline cases.