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I totally 100% agree with your excellent points here:

originally posted by: NOTurTypical
a reply to: ChesterJohn

I'm at the point in my walk now where I just don't want any animosity in my heart towards anyone else, I'm just asking the Lord to give me the power to forgive everyone, regardless of whether or not the seek to apologize or not. I'm trying to just release them, and not let anyone offend me. It's just not worth it, the Lord will reveal anyone who I held anger toward, and by His power of the Holy Spirit we can just choose to not let them have any power over us.

I think that's an approach consistent with Jesus and the NT, at least that's how I feel in my spirit.

a reply to: pthena

Interesting.

Sounds like he was merely being a puffed-up, self-important arse.

In that case, I think the pastor handled it well. LOL.

Sigh.

originally posted by: NOTurTypical
a reply to: pthena

This passage was also quickened to me in regards to people and their faults with others, this is always an acceptable approach someone can choose to do in all cases, from Colossians chapter 3:

12Therefore, as God’s chosen ones, holy and loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, meekness, and patience. 13Be tolerant of one another and forgive each other if anyone has a complaint against another. Just as the Lord has forgiven you, you also should forgive. 14Above all, clothe yourselves with love, which ties everything together in unity. 15Let the peace of the Messiah also rule in your hearts, to which you were called in one body, and be thankful.

I GREATLY AGREE. AMEN.

(ISV version)

a reply to: Byrd

You have an occasionally annoying habit

of causing me to

agree with you.

Congrats.

a reply to: NOTurTypical

And that I agreed with in my first post in this thread.

Thanks.

originally posted by: BO XIAN
a reply to: NOTurTypical

And that I agreed with in my first post in this thread.

Thanks.

Then are we sharpening iron here or repeating each other? 🤔😂😂

a reply to: NOTurTypical

Plus, you Christians do believe in the Holy Spirit, and the fruits of the Spirit.

So yeah, a man is not judged by what he reads but rather how he lives and acts.

And anyone who accuses someone of lacking love, based upon what he reads isn't following Jesus (at least what's written that he taught). There are verses.

a reply to: NOTurTypical

The answer is . . .

drum roll . . .

YES.

a reply to: pthena

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a reply to: pthena

It's interesting you say that, that a man won't be judged by what he reads, but how he acts. And that's kinda how I feel, that salvation isn't a mental repeating of a set of facts, that true faith comes when you "believe" it to the point it becomes manifest in your life, to the point you just don't mentally agree with what it says, but you trust it to the point you walk it out.

If that makes sense, but what you said I do believe to be true. It's kinda what James said, where you can prove your faith by your works, or your actions/fruit.

a reply to: NOTurTypical

to the point you just don't mentally agree with what it says, but you trust it to the point you walk it out.

There was a song I listened to recently that would have fit perfectly here, but I can't remember what it was.

2 Cor. 3:17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. 18And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord’s glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.

It seems that Spirit contemplation mentioned here is meaningless to Worldly people without the stories to offer concrete examples, and people who offer concrete examples.

a reply to: pthena

It's right, the Holy Spirit that you receive when you're born again is the agent that makes you want to do good works that God wants us to do, it's Philippians 2:13

"For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure."

a reply to: NOTurTypical
And I found the song

Song she sang to me
Song she brang to me
Words that rang in me,
Rhyme that sprang from me
Warmed the night, and what was right
Became me

You are the sun, I am the moon
You are the words, I am the tune
Play me

This is from a pre-Christian view of Holy Spirit as feminine. Kind of appeals to Heathens, and others not quite Heathen.

originally posted by: NOTurTypical
a reply to: ChesterJohn

I'm at the point in my walk now where I just don't want any animosity in my heart towards anyone else, I'm just asking the Lord to give me the power to forgive everyone, regardless of whether or not the seek to apologize or not. I'm trying to just release them, and not let anyone offend me. It's just not worth it, the Lord will reveal anyone who I held anger toward, and by His power of the Holy Spirit we can just choose to not let them have any power over us.

I think that's an approach consistent with Jesus and the NT, at least that's how I feel in my spirit.

Vvry good I to forgive even if the other has not asked for it. I have gone to some and often they just deny it of justify themselves for what they did when they sinned against me. Matt 18 is a good example of how we can do it. But we are not in the kingdom for Jesus to do his thing, which is to judge.

a reply to: pthena

yes I do see that there are some agreement with Jesus teaching and Paul's

1Cor 5 is a chapter that many try not to use. You will see here he says not to company with a brother who is in sin. But we can still communicate with the lost who do all those things.

2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

When you get to 2Tim 3:5 many a preacher will say it is unbelievers but Paul never taught we were not to have fellowship with unbelieving men but those who claim Christ. So 2Tim 3:5 is speaking of men in the church and the context of this starts in Chapter 2.

originally posted by: pthena


But for people who are outside the Church Community, there is no restriction against them cherry picking whatever they find useful to themselves from the Bible or anything else as far as the Church is concerned. They are Gentiles, people of the World, over whom the Church has no jurisdiction.

Of course we on ATS are all peers, none exercising authority over the conscience of another. Therefore persuasion is most fitting. Thank you.

I think what you have said is exactly right, it is the doctrine of Christ, a teaching where many Christians fail.
Jesus did not come to bring a theocracy, christianity is not for the world, they, the world are free to live as they see fit.

"They are Gentiles, people of the World, over whom the Church has no jurisdiction." It makes me feel good other christians are so aware, I see it lacking in so many churches

a reply to: Raggedyman

Jesus did not come to bring a theocracy, christianity is not for the world, they, the world are free to live as they see fit.

There are many questions stemming from that statement, probably too many for a simple one question poll.

But simply stated: Those who take a literal inerrant view of the whole Bible, Old & New Testament, have concluded that Jesus did come to bring a theocracy, which has been delayed, but will come "soon".

The World is attempting to show that that is not so, and it's time for Christians to rejoin the Human Race and not view themselves as aliens, who will only be at home in the World after cataclysmic destruction of the World.

I am on the side of the World luring Christians away from alien status. Just to clarify so people don't think I'm an evil secret agent, but rather an open agent.

Now I must go sleep. Past my bed time.

a reply to: pthena

Jesus did come to bring a theocracy, which has been delayed, but will come "soon". [post]

I dont think its been delayed, I havnt heard that at least. Valid points anyway

a reply to: Raggedyman

I think he means the 1000 year reign on Earth, like the vision in Daniel 2.

a reply to: NOTurTypical

It becomes as complicated or as simple as people make it.

An Astronaut trains for many years to make a trip into space, and when she/he does make the trip, the things necessary for life are brought along, oxygen, food, temperature regulation. They came from Earth, the biosphere of birth. The individual is still breathing the same air, drinking the same water as she/he has for all her life. Not much has changed except a point of view.

If you have an associate for whom a smile or greeting is appropriate, then give a smile or greeting. Do not empty your savings account and give him the balance. Do not bow down to perpetual servitude. Those things are not appropriate.