Chasing Red Mercury – One Drop from Doomsday?

a reply to: Bedlam

Reminds me of the "Ongs HAT" myth where there is a gateway to another world.
I remember lots of fringe talk about it but the talk was not very tech savy.
Could have been a spook tool to smokesome people out as well,PUTIN was still on duty...

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: mirageman

I've had constant recurring dreams of mercury as a superfluid, I really believe there is more to mercury than we are told.

I'm guessing you don't known what a superfluid is.

It has been 100 years since the discovery of superconductivity, a state achieved when mercury was cooled, with the help of liquid helium, to nearly the coldest temperature achievable to form a superfluid

source

Thanks smart guy...

S&F Very interesting. That Red Mercury is a real Red Herring huh.

Make it a double.

yes amazing thread, i knew when I was a kid that time magazine was bull#... comon man, osama bin laden tied to it? we still don't know the exact time or date of his death..just what's we are told.. an honest person is just going to believe everything they read.. why hasn't hamas, isis hazbollah and every other terrorist group taken advantage of the knowledge to wipe the infected off the map? strange eh?

When I was a linguist in the military I remember hearing talk that some of some of our targets would ocassionally mention Red Mercury, though I never heard any credible information that it actually existed. I think you're right that it's probably a myth.

a reply to: mirageman

I have a vial of red mercury! :: Turns off red light :: ...oh wait, nevermind

Unless, of course, someone with $1M wants to meet at the Des Plaines Oasis at 0300, in which case, I definitely have some. But not for real. Just being funny..ha...ha, yeahhh. Its toootally a hoax and no good for anything.

Unmarked bills, of course. See you in 2 hours!

Even better considering the liquid mercury in those type of thermometers is almost always red. Ha

What an interesting tale of skulduggery, many thanks to the poster.

Excellent thread! Very interesting thank you.
It's nice to see that ATS hasn't completely gone down the pan......yet
S&F!

I agree that red mercury is a red herring, but the attention it diverts is from a very real cheap and practical nuclear weapon based on the flying plate design. First suggested by Los Alamos nuke designer Ted Taylor 40 years ago in the New Yorker. 3 parts, an essential read on nuke design.

Pellets from spent reactor fuel rods, which contain plutonium, can be configured with lithium, hydrogen, deuterium to cause a fission and fusion reaction yielding under 1 kt.

Slam an iron plate coated with the correct ingredients against another. viola. nuke.

Israel confirms the technology, and Syria houses a ISIS controlled institute with minor machine tools to make it. And there is a smuggling route from Russia through Odessa to the target location. Fuel rods, lithium (hey, laptop batteries) and bango. Where will one go off? well, what is the range of ISIS today.

originally posted by: darkstar57
I agree that red mercury is a red herring, but the attention it diverts is from a very real cheap and practical nuclear weapon based on the flying plate design.

Everyone and their monkey uses flying plates for various bomb designs.

It's really TOUGH to relate that to red mercury.

eta: whoops. I assume everyone has the same level of knowledge. A flying plate is generally used to convert an explosive wavefront to a linear one. It's very useful if you need to make a linear shockwave out of something else.

a reply to: mirageman

Thank you for an interesting, well researched post. There will be a member who will accuse the United States of supplying Red Mercury to ISIS in 3... 2... 1....

ETA: Ooops! Too late!

Red mercury is a myth born blue media as and Islamic terrorism

originally posted by: intrptr

Despite the lack of evidence that the deadly substance really exists the stories surrounding this mythical substance, and the desire to obtain it, go on to this very day.

Red mercury, one of those mythical substances used by the main stream to instill fear in those not familiar with science.

Like the term 'nano thermite', introduced after 911 to mystify how the buildings were brought down.

Cue the truthers...

My parents live next to a quarry. Every now and again they have a big blast. The sirens go off, there's a thump from the ground and then the bang from the explosion. A thin mushroom cloud of red dust would go up into the air and fall back down on everything nearby. My laptop tested positive for explosive residue at the airport

I've never read about any use for Mercury in nukes. It's all Plutonium, Tritium, high energy explosives and precision timers.

originally posted by: mangust69
Red mercury is a myth born blue media as and Islamic terrorism

I am assuming that Red Mercury is a retelling of the Hafnium Nuclear Isomer
tale where a No-Radiation bomb could be created in the 1 to 10 KT range.

See link:
Nuclear Isomer:
en.wikipedia.org...

Hafnium controversy:
en.wikipedia.org...

Hafnium Bomb:
en.wikipedia.org...

You could fit it in a briefcase and have nearly the same power as
a Hiroshima weapon. The Soviets supposedly did research in the
1980's on such a sevice.

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In my opinion, I would be MUCH MORE WORRIED about sonofusion bombs
where small scale acoustic waves in a liquid medium can be concentrated
and cause compression events of ENOUGH FORCE to detonate a small-scale
nuclear device WITHOUT the use of high-powered explosives!

en.wikipedia.org...

A simple beer barrel-shaped device could
use a design SIMILAR to this one:

en.wikipedia.org...

to compress pellets of a fissionable material
and it would be generally undetectable by
the nitrogen-searching explosive detection
systems used in airports, tunnel exits/entrances
and in many buildings. U233, U235 and Plutonium
could be encased in simple shaped casings to
escape radiation detectors and X-Ray machines.

And since you could use a Thorium fuel cycle
to create fissile material you don't need as
much stolen Plutonium or U235 to make a
nuclear bomb!

en.wikipedia.org...

Ceramic transducers powered from a simple fuel cell
with the pressure waves shaped by a smartphone's
audio chip could EASILY create the sonofusion
compression system used to detonate a
low-yeild nuke ANWHERE in ANY CITY !!!!

THAT IS WHAT I WOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT !!!!

Red Mercury is too much of Tom Clancy Tech-thriller
plot device as to have any true validity to me....
although I DO SUSPECT it was a code name for
a specific TYPE or COMPONENT of a nuclear
detonation system that got out of hand
in the rumor-mill of the criminal underworld.

a reply to: stormcell

Hah, I bet you had a fun time explaining that to airport security.


Did they give it back to you after they dissected it?

originally posted by: stormcell
My laptop tested positive for explosive residue at the airport

Before 9/11 I used to have this really great OD green canvas bag with big brass zippers on that was just right for stuffing in the overhead. I never knew what originally came in it. We had a supply guy in the Army that cadged all sorts of random velcro, straps and bags that were going to be tossed and I came across the thing in the bag bin, and used it for years to pack stuff in the field like detcord, C4 and fuzing.

When I left, I kept the bag and eventually started flying with it. And eventually they started swiping for explosive residue. The first time they tested that bag I thought they were going to go in-freaking-sane.

a reply to: Bedlam
That must have been fun. I hope they didn't turn you into a sock puppet.

Here's the actual quote that OP misused

"The report, compiled by researchers at the Los Alamos National Laboratory, shows that in the hands of hoaxers and conmen, red mercury can do almost anything the aspiring Third World demagogue wants it to. You want a short cut to making an atom bomb? You want the key to Soviet ballistic missile guidance systems? Or perhaps you want the Russian alternative to the anti-radar paint on the stealth bomber? What you need is red mercury"

Of course it was changed by OP to suit this hoax. The quote comes from a paper titled "Only fools still hunt for elusive red mercury".