Welcome One and All to The 2016 Democratic National Convention

originally posted by: interupt42

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: Konduit

Interesting stuff. I wonder if the thread asking Hillary delegates to vote "No Preference" to throw the convention into a contest is correct according to the rules...

Whats the point?

Bernie just completely sold out. I can't see myself ever really getting behind him again after tonight.

The delegates may see such a choice as a step towards unifying the party. They were there on the floor to witness the disunity up close.

It would definitely impact me. But perhaps I'm in the minority on that.

a reply to: Domo1

There fixed

And thanks I guess. Kinda embarrassed I've been spelling that wrong all this time.

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: interupt42

Make no mistake... Trump is FAR WORSE than Hillary. He has already caused damage to the country through his divisiveness. Elevating him to the world stage-- no way.

DT hasn't nearly divided the country as much as Obamy has. HRC policy has gotten people killed. She believes she is above you, me and every other American and our laws.

Bush got 3000 americans killed on 9/11 and it earned him a second term and a faithful following from an unquestionaing Republican party. Don't tell me about Damage. I'll take Obama any day of the week over the damage Republicans managed during their 8 years in office.

a reply to: JacKatMtn


I'm not wasting a second of this night trying to sell you on Clinton. Or Bernard

You get to think this through your own self

Sorry you're disappointed in people you don't support - not sure what that means exactly :-)

@ ketsuko and her discomfort with being at home for family instead of being at a "paying job" -------


like when you are stuck at a boring job and there's nothing to do but you have to stay until clock-out, when instead you could be at home playing with your kid, and working on your home and yard....right? I know how that feels!!!

It's like, "God, I wish I was at home right now so I could work on that project I have going on.....instead of sitting here doing nothing!! I have much better things to do at home.....the kid, the house, the meals, the yard, the everything....."




No. I know, you don't get it. You don't get how important it is for one parent to be home and in charge of home maintenance, day-to-day logistics, child-rearing, shopping and cooking, bill-paying, monitoring of the quarters.......and how those issues take so much precedence over some stupid time-card-puncher-fanatic's wishes.

ugh

whatever. Don't know why I had to respond - except that I had to drive past your hometown and realized how deprived you were as a kid ------- Manhattan, Kansas - locals have nothing to listen to except drivel. It's sad.

a reply to: Puppylove

Don't be at all. I keep telling people about my stupid Carpe Launche thing instead of Carte Blanche. Always heard it wrong and figured it was spelled like Carpe Diem. I was launching fish. Figured you would prefer to know, not poking fun.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

I'm confused

:-)

It was ketsuko that said that

a reply to: Grambler

Bernie didnt give in to bankers. He laid out everything. He hasn't sold out. He never has. And even in those moment when he could have so easily destroyed the party and caused mass division, how does that help the people who fear deportation, or concerns of clinate change. He used the leverage he has to push Hillary's platform closer to his. It was the right move, in my opinion.

originally posted by: spiritualzombie

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: interupt42

Make no mistake... Trump is FAR WORSE than Hillary. He has already caused damage to the country through his divisiveness. Elevating him to the world stage-- no way.

DT hasn't nearly divided the country as much as Obamy has. HRC policy has gotten people killed. She believes she is above you, me and every other American and our laws.

Bush got 3000 americans killed on 9/11 and it earned him a second term and a faithful following from an unquestionaing Republican party. Don't tell me about Damage. I'll take Obama any day of the week over the damage Republicans managed during their 8 years in office.

I absolutely despised GWB, but, Obama was just as bad.

If you have no party preference, it's clear that Obama is/was just like GWB except Obama lied and claimed he was an anti-war progressive.

originally posted by: zazzafrazz
Well that showed sophistication compared to day one RNC.....

Night nite, don't let the bed bugs, latinos, immigrants, blacks or muslim bite, Stay scared

Why yes!

Pelosi getting booed.

Schultz getting dragged out of the convention.

Bernie supporters getting ejected from the game for 'bad' behavior.

Bernie supporters signs getting confiscated because of material written on them that wasn't very politically correct.

Does show 'sophistication' of party that has become a national laughing stock.

originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: Grambler
Bernie didnt give in to bankers. He laid out everything. He hasn't sold out. He never has

Keep telling yourself that. Any true self respecting bernie supporter that believed in his message about being anti corruption , would never vote Hillary or support her.

a reply to: supremecommander



That's where I'm at.

Not Trump but NEVER Hillary. There's nothing at the convention that could possibly change my mind but I'll watch anyways. I think there will be more drama than with the GOP convention.

originally posted by: kosmicjack
a reply to: supremecommander



That's where I'm at.

Not Trump but NEVER Hillary. There's nothing at the convention that could possibly change my mind but I'll watch anyways. I think there will be more drama than with the GOP convention.

Without a doubt, supposedly wikileaks got some more dump on the way before the end of the convention.

I was

Never Trump And NEVER Hillary.
Not Trump and Never Hillary
after the convention
Maybe trump NEVER NEVER Hillary

a reply to: Spiramirabilis

Yeah, I got confused, too....
sorry.

YES - it was ketsuko who said that she preferred to be at a job rather than at home caring for her home and her boy.....
as if not being "on the clock" was an embarrassment. That only if a person is "earning money" are their efforts worthwhile.

I meant to differ....there are things FAR FAR FAR more important than digits on a screen, or ink on paper, or vacuuming the carpet......

parenting and home-making are worthy and priceless endeavors....they are not equal to "doing nothing".

a reply to: spiritualzombie

You can blame Bush all you want for 9/11 but Clinton has to take some blame too.

I frigging hate parties.....so I will say this. The Republicans didnt do any more damage than the Obama administration has done in 8 years time...thats a load. If you take REAL numbers, Obama has economically stagnated this country and Obamacare is starting to implode on itself to a point where its hurting plenty of people.

You could have put a sack of doughnuts in office and got similar results.

The fact people think Obama is a great president is nuts to me...he can talk a good game but the guy has been more divisive than any president in recent memory.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: spiritualzombie

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: interupt42

Make no mistake... Trump is FAR WORSE than Hillary. He has already caused damage to the country through his divisiveness. Elevating him to the world stage-- no way.

DT hasn't nearly divided the country as much as Obamy has. HRC policy has gotten people killed. She believes she is above you, me and every other American and our laws.

Bush got 3000 americans killed on 9/11 and it earned him a second term and a faithful following from an unquestionaing Republican party. Don't tell me about Damage. I'll take Obama any day of the week over the damage Republicans managed during their 8 years in office.

I absolutely despised GWB, but, Obama was just as bad.

If you have no party preference, it's clear that Obama is/was just like GWB except Obama lied and claimed he was an anti-war progressive.

No, Obama is not just as bad. We have not had skyscrapers fall with thousands of people dying while Obama read a children's book. Obama didn't lie to congress and knowingly provide false intel to justify an Iraq invasion. GWB is far worse for so many reasons.

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: JinMI

Bernie was used and cheated. His voters and supporters were cheated. He folded into exactly what he and his supporters were against. That doesn't make him anything but a sellout.

What are you - 12?

This is politics kiddo - and we have a common goal. Time to put personality and personal crap aside

Or - do you just not get that?

I agree with your post that I'm replying to about compromise but there is a line and it has been crossed.

If you listened to anything the man said, you might have heard him talk about the good of the country. I love Bernard - even more tonight if that's possible

Don't condescend to me son. You can fall on your sword for your party all you want. You'll be left with your hand out in the end. They think in every way that they are better than you. That's the reality.

His ideals for the good of the country to not follow my own.

As to the rest of your post, I thought I was talking to someone with intellect. I won't make that mistake again.

a reply to: kosmicjack

kosmicjack don't you want a comfy new coat? We hand them out if you disavow.

Worst case scenario with Trump is that he gets nothing done. Worst case scenario with hillary is that she accomplishes her goals. Come to the slightly less dark side.

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: JacKatMtn


I'm not wasting a second of this night trying to sell you on Clinton. Or Bernard

You get to think this through your own self

Sorry you're disappointed in people you don't support - not sure what that means exactly :-)

I wish we had more choices... I wish we as voters weren't herded into a flip of the coin if we are going to vote, or stay home if we don't think a coin flip is an excuse to cast a ballot...

YMMV

Holy crap. I'm not posting an up to the moment blurb here.

Sanders' speech was amazing. There was so much I agreed with in that speech. That was by far the moment that this entire convention will be remembered for. That was the moment that I saw true humanity, and not a bunch of soundbite nonsense.

I saw real emotion. I saw true empathy. I witnessed the disappointment and expression of true loss. I know how that feels.

I honestly wish that it had been Sanders against Trump. I would have been far more comfortable with a decision between those choices.

The reality is, nonetheless, that is not to be.

The moment a self proclaimed socialist vied for top position of the Democratic party, his fate was sealed.

I truly have strong feelings for the people that supported him. Had it been 10 years ago, I would absolutely have been a part of your movement.

I'm not a racist, I don't hate women, every single day I defend people who have immigrated to this country as part of my job, but mainly because they are good people and I know what I am doing.

I am still voting Trump because Hillary must be stopped. She completely undermined your voices. She stole the thunder from your storm, and doesn't even intend to deliver the rain.

I am so sorry, I'm sorry for being an ass.

I'm sorry for making light of what it is you are fighting for, within reason.

Just know I have been paying attention for a bit longer, and I'm doing what I know is the right thing.

I hope something good comes of all of this.

Best wishes to all.