The Republican Party Is Dead

The truth is is that the GOP has been killing itself Lingchi style for 4 decades or so now. The biggest mistake was allowing the so called " Moral Majority " and Jerry Falwell to have a great deal of say in whom the GOP preferred candidates were and what party policy would consist of. Many GOP leaders of the time were weary of this, and some outright denounced it. Although they helped deliver the Presidency to Ronald Reagan, this may not have been a net positive for the GOP when viewed through a historical lens.

Without even bringing up policy, it has been all downhill from a leadership aspect for the GOP. The man was a gifted speaker. He looked and sounded presidential. No matter how dire the situation was, Uncle Ronnie would go on TV and calm everybody's minds with his reassuring manner, Democrats and Republicans alike. Very few presidents in US history had this capability, and none since Reagan. From a publicity standpoint no GOP member has come close to Reagan, and this is a problem.

That isn't to say that Reagan was an awesome president. Supply side economics, deficit spending, increasing the national debt,ridiculous foreign trade agreements, and the Christian Right are all direct descendants of the Reagan Administration. All of these have led to a plethora of social and economic problems today, and yet GOP hopefuls won't cross that line. Nobody is willing to tell the emperor that he isn't wearing any clothes. To call into question the policies of the great Ronald Reagan is political suicide in today's GOP, no matter what the facts are.

Add to this the George W Bush Presidency, the Neocons, and the current social and economic climate in the US today, and you have all the makings of a party in decline. This is even BEFORE Trump came onto the scene. What has happened since the Trump candidacy has begun has alienated even more people for a variety of reasons. The GOP really needs to do some soul searching.

I would hope that if Trump is elected that he would learn from Jimmy Carter. Carter was elected under similar Anti-Washington sentiments at the time, and brought a whole bunch of outsiders with him to DC. Not being able to deal with his own party, let alone Republicans in Congress assured his time was short. How many people even know that Carter introduced a much more palatable National Healthcare plan than Obamacare, with some support from the GOP, only to be undermined by Ted Kennedy, Tip O'Neil, and other Democrats? Trump could suffer the same fate if he follows the same path.

The republicans seem to be blind to the fact that a lot of people are still having financial troubles,unemployed or underpaid.
when your pockets are empty social issues aren`t a big priority,more jobs and better paying jobs is what you want to hear about, not which bathroom someone is suppose to use.

originally posted by: conspiracy nut
good maybe the democrat party can die too and we can focus on voting for the candidate based on the issues not on what party they belong to. likewise candidates can push issues because they believe in them not because their party or lobbyists tells them to.

Here's an idea... and I know it sounds crazy...

but why don't we just cut out the politicians and vote on the issues?

I take it you mean federally. Plenty of states that Rep's will always do well in.

originally posted by: Tardacus
The republicans seem to be blind to the fact that a lot of people are still having financial troubles,unemployed or underpaid.
when your pockets are empty social issues aren`t a big priority,more jobs and better paying jobs is what you want to hear about, not which bathroom someone is suppose to use.

Considering that Obama's economy is absolutely horrible, I would say both parties are guilty of that.

a reply to: Metallicus

(quote)"Trump has brought them into the light from the dark ages and finally focused on the important issues like our security and bringing jobs, innovation and exceptionalism back to America."(/quote)

Really? I haven't heard a peep about how he is going to do any of this. Just his opinion.

a reply to: Annee

To overthrow the current oligarical (sic)system currently occupying the Republican party, so that EVERYONE possible,has a voice not a system.
THEY are all going to Hillary now,the banks ,the lawyers, prime Islamic cash from Saudi ,all once Republican only.
Follow the money, It pleases my gut feelings.

a reply to: Metallicus

And one by one they go... like lemmings.

originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: Annee

To overthrow the current oligarical (sic)system currently occupying the Republican party, so that EVERYONE possible,has a voice not a system.
THEY are all going to Hillary now,the banks ,the lawyers, prime Islamic cash from Saudi ,all once Republican only.
Follow the money, It pleases my gut feelings.

You do know we can't go backwards. America is never going to be what its been in the past.

The oligarchy is global. America can no longer isolate itself, its not possible in today's world.

You can have an oligarchy leader powerful enough to negotiate with the rest of the world's oligarchy leaders.

Or you can sign up for the trip to Mars and start over.

a reply to: Annee

I was told I was dead once by experts who were not correct via underestimation,before we deployed to Desert Storm.
RAND to be accurate. I one lowly scout disagreed and gave it a week ,because they have never fielded and army capable of withstanding a US force.
BASIC history that the Oligarchs,Russia,and the US GOVERNMENT thought was true enough to tell me that before I went there to fight.
THEY said we would take 50% losses if we fought Iraq..wrong,3days done WE came home fine from my unit I 'm sorry for those we took and lost.
AND YES I still take pride in my execution of warfare but not it's purpose which you lose somewhere, in your thinking.
I grew up at the end of the last cold war from depression era parents,who didn't talk to me or my siblings.
I spent my time watching TV and the rather simple propaganda at the time ,it seemed ..disjointed .
BUT I STILL watched Combat, Rat patrol and things like that because it seemed something I was connected to, so I went for it as a personal test and to serve my country.
I WAS LIED to, the ONLY power these oligarchs HAD was invisibility.
THE MASSES couldn't see what was REALLY called THE MAN because they all thought it was ONLY the US Government and whom we elected. WE know better now.
YOU want to give up ?
I sure won't.
I am a member of the largest, most capable, potential, guerrilla force on the planet.
AS LONG as I can breathe and pull the trigger on a good rifle,they have a problem.
THEY are leaning on those of us they can to take that away ,it's obvious.
AND we ARE a legion in waiting.

originally posted by: WeDemBoyz
I consider myself a socially liberal, fiscally conservative independent; in that specific order. As much as I want the nation to be fiscally conservative, the social issues must be fixed first; else neither will be...and by fixed, I mean exactly what the OP stated; conservatives need to let the social issues go...live and let live.

True or not, this meme is how the loudest conservative mouths in the room always seem to be interpreted.

Great, another Republicans bad/white people bad post. Was one not enough? What is the point of this post? Simply to bash others that do not do as you do? Pathetic.

a reply to: TheBulk

Wow. Damn near verbatim:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

No wonder people are saying the GOP is dead. No original thought.

originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: TheBulk

Wow. Damn near verbatim:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

No wonder people are saying the GOP is dead. No original thought.

Yeeeeeeah, somehow you missed the super obvious point.

a reply to: TheBulk

Plagiarist

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: TheBulk

Wow. Damn near verbatim:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

No wonder people are saying the GOP is dead. No original thought.

Yeeeeeeah, somehow you missed the super obvious point.

Oh no. I got it. You used someone else's word EXACTLY the opposite of what he said. Childish and unoriginal.

Time to dust of the Whig Party. Rebuild our infrastructure! More quality public education! Stimulate manufacturing!

originally posted by: Hefficide

Their platform this year includes a lengthy diatribe on "one man, one woman" marriage, a promise to wage a war on porn ( of all things ) and discussion of wanting the Bible in public schools.

Sorry man but the status quo for the GOP is alive and well.

Very Sadly you are absolutely correct but I think the OP is saying that old school hard line conservative stance is "dead" in the sense that the vast majority of the population doesn't necessarily feel that way. OP is saying the REP. party needs to get with the times.

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: TheBulk

Wow. Damn near verbatim:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

No wonder people are saying the GOP is dead. No original thought.

Yeeeeeeah, somehow you missed the super obvious point.

Oh no. I got it. You used someone else's word EXACTLY the opposite of what he said. Childish and unoriginal.

Childish and unoriginal you say but stalking isn't?

Lol, awesome.

originally posted by: 191stMIDET

originally posted by: Hefficide

Their platform this year includes a lengthy diatribe on "one man, one woman" marriage, a promise to wage a war on porn ( of all things ) and discussion of wanting the Bible in public schools.

Sorry man but the status quo for the GOP is alive and well.

Very Sadly you are absolutely correct but I think the OP is saying that old school hard line conservative stance is "dead" in the sense that the vast majority of the population doesn't necessarily feel that way. OP is saying the REP. party needs to get with the times.

P.S. I find it HIGH-LARRY-US that some Conservatives who SUPPOSEDLY believe in the US Constitution want the Bible in public schools!!😂 REALLY? Ok you folks are all about the second amendment (and so am I!!!!) But hey, dumbasses! SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND $%&#&%# STATE!!!!!!!!!!

a reply to: Metallicus

I left the Republican party in 08. Thats when I found out about WTC 7, but John McCain was the last straw for me.

I don't like Ted Cruz, but I respect him deeply for telling the GOP to vote from conscience. Maybe one day America will get the message, or maybe America has already lost its conscience. Its a sad story.

Maybe its time that people start focusing on libertarianism. Until then, America is just the land of wasted opportunity.