[Video] Northern Miami police shoot unarmed Black man with hands raised.

a reply to: defiythelie

Yeah. That's the official excuse I've heard as well.

So their cover story isn't that he's just a bad cop who can't do his job. He's a bad cop who can't do his job and also can't shoot too.

Pretty bad cover story in my opinion. His excuse is that he missed the target which was one innocent guy and hit the other innocent guy who he was allegedly trying to protect.

They were better off not using the cover story IMO. Because now he's both incompetent at his job and a bad shot as well.

originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: defiythelie

Yeah. That's the official excuse I've heard as well.

So their cover story isn't that he's just a bad cop who can't do his job. He's a bad cop who can't do his job and also can't shoot too.

Pretty bad cover story in my opinion. His excuse is that he missed the target which was one innocent guy and hit the other innocent guy who he was allegedly trying to protect.

They were better off not using the cover story IMO. Because now he's both incompetent at his job and a bad shot as well.

I guess its just unfathomable to think the cop wasn't trying to actually hit the autistic guy?

a reply to: Bone75

It doesn't matter what he was trying to hit though does it. Because they were both innocent, unarmed and just sitting there. He shouldn't have been trying to hit anyone.

So what's the point you're trying to make???

originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: Bone75

It doesn't matter what he was trying to hit though does it. Because they were both innocent, unarmed and just sitting there. He shouldn't have been trying to hit anyone.

So what's the point you're trying to make???

The police were responding to a report of a suicidal man with a gun. They didn't have the benefit of knowing both guys were unarmed like you do.

There's also the fact that the guy was laying on the ground with his hands up, pleading with the autistic guy. Without being able to hear what he was saying, I could see that being misconstrued as him begging the autistic guy not to shoot him.

Perhaps the officer wasn't 100% sure of what he was seeing and fired three warning shots?

a reply to: Bone75

you know, that actually makes sense. Its still #ed up though. Can we charge the original caller with filing a false report??

a reply to: Bone75

Dude, give me a break. Since when is it procedure to just shoot people without knowing what's going on??? You don't expect anyone to believe that do you???

The guy is laying on the ground as commanded to do. You can hear him saying the guy is autistic and he's a therapist.

Even if they couldn't hear him since when are cops supposed to go to a possible suicide and shoot people without first knowing what is happening??

When did it become procedure to shoot someone who's playing with a toy and not even acting in a threatening way???

When did it become procedure for them to shoot a possible suicide???

When did it become procedure to shoot anyone without first there being a threat?? The guy on the ground clearly wasn't a threat. They made him lay on the ground to begin with. The other guy was sitting there doing whatever also not threatening anyone.

Also, why handcuff the guy you shot afterward???

You're going to have to come with something reasonable first. Honestly. What you're saying makes no sense at all.

originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: Bone75

Dude, give me a break. Since when is it procedure to just shoot people without knowing what's going on??? You don't expect anyone to believe that do you???

Did you even read a single word that I just wrote?

I'm suggesting that the cop wasn't trying to shoot anyone.

Also, YOU DON'T KNOW if the autistic guy was acting in a threatening manner when the cop fired his weapon because Kinsley's lawyer conveniently left that part out of the video he provided to the media.

a reply to: mOjOm

You know, the way you put the questions into those contexts, I would rationally believe that this could have been a case of an accident. That whole trigger discipline lacking now makes even more sense with those questions and the way Bone outline the view on the ground from a distance.

I would go for criminally negligent discharge of a firearms while causing harm. Anything like attempted murder, or attempted manslaughter or anything stupid like that will just get the case thrown out. I doubt it will even go that far unless they press the DOJ for the civil rights issue. All that would be is an attempt for more money though since he will clearly settle out of court this matter. This state has some serious attorney power and the City and Police Union know damn well this is a case that will be paid out.

Or the guy was just foaming out the mouth to kill some dark skinned man that day. I think a psyche evaluation, independent one would not at least be an unreasonable thing to ask.

originally posted by: Bone75
Did you even read a single word that I just wrote?

I'm suggesting that the cop wasn't trying to shoot anyone.

Also, YOU DON'T KNOW if the autistic guy was acting in a threatening manner when the cop fired his weapon because Kinsley's lawyer conveniently left that part out of the video he provided to the media.

So you're suggesting that he was just shooting his gun and not trying to hit anyone now??? Why would he do that exactly???

There is no indication that he was acting threatening toward anyone.

A minute ago you also suggested that they might have been confused because they guy was laying there with his hands up pleading with the autistic guy. But I think it's obvious that he didn't lay down and put his hands up before the cops got there. That's what they told them to do. It's not like the guy was just laying down with his hands in the air for no reason.

I don't think you're thinking clearly.

a reply to: AmericanRealist

I'm not suggesting the cop shot the guy because he wanted shoot someone out of malice. Or that it was racism or anything like that.

I imagine it was just dumb cop who is extremely careless and shot an innocent person because he's incompetent in doing his job.

I mean maybe he's just a psycho that figured today was the day he would shoot someone for fun. But that's quite a stretch IMO. He seems to just be incompetent and because he's allowed to use a weapon that incompetence made him dangerous. If it wasn't this it could have been that he accidentally shot one of his fellow officers even. Who knows.

originally posted by: mOjOm

originally posted by: Bone75
Did you even read a single word that I just wrote?

I'm suggesting that the cop wasn't trying to shoot anyone.

Also, YOU DON'T KNOW if the autistic guy was acting in a threatening manner when the cop fired his weapon because Kinsley's lawyer conveniently left that part out of the video he provided to the media.

So you're suggesting that he was just shooting his gun and not trying to hit anyone now??? Why would he do that exactly???

Haven't I already made that crystal freaking clear? I really don't like having to repeat myself.

There is no indication that he was acting threatening toward anyone.

BS. On page 8 of this thread you'll find a link to another video (that also conveniently leaves out the shooting itself... hint, hint) where the autistic guy is screaming at Kinsey to shut up.

You can also hear someone in the video ask "why did they shoot the black boy instead of the fat boy?". Is that not an indication?

Also, if they weren't warning shots, then why didn't the cop continue firing after realizing that he "missed" his "target"?

I don't think you're thinking clearly.

I don't think you're thinking at all... more like reading from a script.

a reply to: Miracula2

So they were aiming at teh Autistic kid with a fire truck and missed?.

a reply to: Bone75

So glad I'm in the UK...when I have an incident in public with autistic folk I have zero chance of getting shot by police, Our cops receive training to do with autism and when they have come over to see what is going on the are very helping....not trigger happy.

originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: Bone75

Dude, give me a break. Since when is it procedure to just shoot people without knowing what's going on???

Oh please.

Get back to planet earth.

A. That's not what he said

B. Even if it was, that's still going to happen

C. You're reacting to the extremely monetarily-sponsored biased posting of a video by someone's lawyer without seeing any oppositional information whatsoever.

Don't get freakishly up-in-arms over conjecture. It would seem rather hypocritical in juxtoposition to the immediate knee-jerk reaction that you seem to be condemning regarding this event

a reply to: Bone75

So warning shots are acceptable procedure now?

I always here from the gun folks that if you fire, you fire to kill?

a reply to: DeadFoot

Since everyone keeps talking about this "missing video" there is only one thing to say.

The cops themselves state they were protecting the therapist. So he obviously did not do anything to warrant getting shot.

So basically we have a cop shooting willy nilly (or warning shot as Bone puts it) or bad shoot.

Either way, doesn't look too good for the cop......

originally posted by: FaunaOrFlora
a reply to: Bone75

So warning shots have been standard since people have been armed?

Ftfy

a reply to: FaunaOrFlora

This "missing video" is a standard of begging evidence.

Remember how much of a "family man" Alton Sterling was last month?

Remember how much of an "innocent kid" Trayvon Martin was?

Remember how Michael brown had his "hands up"?

I'm beyond sick of everyone freaking out at this media-sponsored stuff within a day of it happening based on one narrative of a clearly motivated source.

a reply to: gladtobehere

Some how this is becoming the new norm for police/citizen interactions.

How can the officer say he could not hear the man's pleas when it is so easily heard on the cell phone video.

Do cops no longer have the courage to get close enough to their "victims" and find out what is going on before they start shooting?

So, now the story is that the cop was just a bad shot...

The North Miami police officer who shot an unarmed, black mental health worker caring for a patient actually took aim at the autistic man next to him, but missed, the head of the police union said Thursday.

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