How Did trump Get to Use Queen's 'We are the Champions'?

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: SlapMonkey

But Trump didn't pay anyone. At all. He just used the song.
Oh and the surviving members of the band are saying this.
If Disney owns it then they should get paid. But they weren't. Don't focus on who should get paid. Focus on no one was paid.

Let's just use the actual words from ASCAP:





It's of interest to note that there is more than one way to use copyrighted music legally for political events, to include relying on the license of the venue (if it covers political events) and not the campaign's effort to obtain the license. It's also interesting that there are numerous ways for people to legally refrain from having their music used, even if licenses to use said music are legally obtained.

So, basically, it's a big cluster*u*k, as are most legalities these days. It seems to me that he has the right to use it and the band has the right to fight to keep it from continued or recurring use.

That just seems so fitting to how America is working these days.

originally posted by: DJW001


Actually, it is very telling that he has no respect for an artist's wishes, and we will see how calmly he takes the criticism.

And it's very telling she has no respect for American lives, classified information, and life in general (IE research "suicided by the Clintons) and we should ALL see how calmly she takes prosecution. We wont, but we should!

I am not a Trump supporter by any means, but I sure get riled up by the blind minions that follow old Shillary without a second thought, all the while ripping apart another candidate for WAY less wrongs than she commits by breakfast every morning. Please people, do some research on YOUR candidate before it is too late!!


Dorian Soran v2.0

a reply to: Metallicus

That would be hilarious. I think instead of one of the debates, Hillary and Trump should be on one of those celebrity lip sync shows doing competing Queen songs... Now THAT would make for amazing TV...

originally posted by: DorianSoran

originally posted by: DJW001


Actually, it is very telling that he has no respect for an artist's wishes, and we will see how calmly he takes the criticism.

And it's very telling she has no respect for American lives, classified information, and life in general (IE research "suicided by the Clintons) and we should ALL see how calmly she takes prosecution. We wont, but we should!

I am not a Trump supporter by any means, but I sure get riled up by the blind minions that follow old Shillary without a second thought, all the while ripping apart another candidate for WAY less wrongs than she commits by breakfast every morning. Please people, do some research on YOUR candidate before it is too late!!


Dorian Soran v2.0

That's what they do best. They look for the splinters in Trump's eye while they ignore the rafter in Hillary's.

originally posted by: ladyinwaiting
Hi Relda, I noticed it too, and wondered about it. I don't know but I think it could be a problem if copyright owners want to push it.

Queen founding member Brian May had criticized Trump recently in an open letter for using their song.

“I can confirm that permission to use the track was neither sought nor given,” he wrote. “Regardless of our views on Mr Trump’s platform, it has always been against our policy to allow Queen music to be used as a political campaigning tool.”

variety.com...

Can't believe thus is still being discussed. Here's how it really works. Most major public venues such as convention centers and arenas typically purchase blanket licenses from performance rights organizations or PROS (ASCAP, BMI, SESAC) allowing campaigns to “publicly perform” any song in their repertoire. However, these licenses may not cover all uses, so most national campaigns also purchase their own blanket licenses covering all campaign events. So if the venue doesn't have thr licence the campaign still will.the song writers really don't have thr ability to say who can and can't use there songs. What they can so is offer support so the politician doesn't have to pay for its use. But they are required to inform there label.

As far as disproving it's use publicly has no legal purpose but most campaigns wI'll stop using it do to the press it generates. So campaigns tend to not use it when thr artists doesn't support its use. So bottom line this is a non story and yes if Trump chooses to continue to use it there is nothing they can do.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: VivreLibre

The song is copywrited. They cannot use it without permission of whomever holds the copywrite.. Using the music for a campaign is not the same as sitting with your friends playing queen on your IPad.

Two months ago the Rolling Stones told trump to stop using Start Me Up at his rallies. Mick Jagger himself made the request.

Ah, OK. Do you have a document showing that there was a copyright violation when they used this song? Or any proof to your claim at all?

Wasn't there some sort of issue about Bill Clinton using Fleetwood Mac's song without asking permission during his campaign?

a reply to: reldra

Happens all the time. Politicians use music, the musician doesn't approve. Eventually it goes to court for unauthorized use and the campaign pays damages to the record label in the form of whatever their going rate for a song is. The musicians opinion isn't really relevant, they can't stop anyone from using their work... they can only collect damages for it being used.

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: DJW001

maybe you should re-read the lyrics

What adversities has Trump ever overcome?

.....just the whole Democratic and Republican Partys. No big deal in American politics right?

add this to the list of trump lies

"An unauthorised use at the Republican Convention against our wishes," the band tweeted Tuesday. Their publisher, Sony/ATV Music, also said it was unauthorized. Officials said they paid for the use.

And about his supposed wall...using another older groups symbol.

I think Trump just does what he wants.


Then tells his lawyers to figure it out.

originally posted by: artnut
Wasn't there some sort of issue about Bill Clinton using Fleetwood Mac's song without asking permission during his campaign?

No, there was no issue. He used their song without permission but they let it slide because they supported him. I remember them performing at the DNC convention I think.

originally posted by: Khaleesi

originally posted by: artnut
Wasn't there some sort of issue about Bill Clinton using Fleetwood Mac's song without asking permission during his campaign?

No, there was no issue. He used their song without permission but they let it slide because they supported him. I remember them performing at the DNC convention I think.

It was Clinton's Inaugural Ball, not the convention. Sorry for the confusion.

This was already closed. Folks, it is bitching and whining. You sold it. STFU.

It was a perfect song and it fits. Trump 2016-20

I don't know the specific laws involved in playing something like this at a presidential rally but shouldn't he be able to? If he has the album I don't see how this is different from me playing We Are the Champions in my living room or on a boombox down the street.

What happened to common sense? Must our values fall exactly in line with the people that made the music we enjoy? What a dumb thread.. I'm glad artists can't decide who gets to listen to their music, what a ridiculous notion.

I don't see how this is different from me playing We Are the Champions in my living room or on a boombox down the street.

It is.
Some day you might research it and discover the rules behind it.

a reply to: roadgravel

As a entity you can buy the rights.
As an establishment you can buy the rights.
As a venue you can buy the rights.

Then, if someone uses a song, in the private venue, it is ok.

This is like the argument about protesters being allowed on private property. A rally is not a public event.

a reply to: matafuchs

Agreed. Many people don't understand.

edit:

At least the first part.