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originally posted by: JefferyBarber
a reply to: Metallicus
Did they mention that prozac and other similar anti depressants are virtually pure Flouride?
One of the detrimental issues of Flouride is that it "corrodes" our pineal gland which is our "third eye" chakra. If you can get yourself free of Flouride and other toxic compounds from your system you can open your third eye actually realize the divine on high. It's kind of a cosmic Bluetooth connection that chemicals in our reality have corroded and closed up.
Another set of chemicals that we are consuming with relish is "electrolytes". The only electrolyte that we need is sodium chloride. Table salt, iodized table salt.
All the potassium and phosphoric stuff is detrimental to our systems as well.
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: jinni73
In chemistry something you do learn is the difference between elements and compounds.
But how much polonium is in Prozac? I'm curious. I don't see a Po associated with the F in the formula provided. I mean, the F is for fluorine. Fluorine is the element, there are various fluorine compounds which can be termed "fluorides" since they contain fluorine anions. Which one are you talking about? I don't see it in the formula. Where's the Po?
originally posted by: jinni73
so where do I see where the atomic weights are
yes I know what the etc means but its misleading It reads as if basically 80% of the weight are safe ingredients carbon, oxygen, hydrogen, nitrogen
yet you fail to mention the other ingredients I mean how much of the cancer causing titanium dioxide is in it
or what about the banned in some countries FD and C blue as well as the other toxins
And you have studied chemistry do you think they forget to teach you how dangerous the polonium in the fluoride is.
originally posted by: Pardon?
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: jinni73
In chemistry something you do learn is the difference between elements and compounds.
But how much polonium is in Prozac? I'm curious. I don't see a Po associated with the F in the formula provided. I mean, the F is for fluorine. Fluorine is the element, there are various fluorine compounds which can be termed "fluorides" since they contain fluorine anions. Which one are you talking about? I don't see it in the formula. Where's the Po?
Here's a nice picture.
No Po.
This is where you need basic chemistry. You need to be able to read each element's atomic weight on the periodic table. Then you calculate the total weight for that compound and from there (simple math) you calculate the percentage of each element. You can do it all yourself, periodic tables are available for free on the internet.
Where do you get your percentages from Agartha
so where do I see where the atomic weights are
In the response to congressman Ken Calvert, the EPA also concedes that fluorosilicic acid and fluorosilicates, the preferred chemicals used to fluoridate drinking water are captured pollution waste products from phosphate fertilizer industry
In regard to the use of fluosilicic acid as the source of fluoride for fluoridation, this agency regards such use as an ideal solution to a long standing problem. By recovering by-product fluosilicic acid from fertilizer manufacturing, water and air pollution are minimized, and water authorities have a low-cost source of fluoride.
originally posted by: Pardon?
originally posted by: JefferyBarber
a reply to: Metallicus
Did they mention that prozac and other similar anti depressants are virtually pure Flouride?
One of the detrimental issues of Flouride is that it "corrodes" our pineal gland which is our "third eye" chakra. If you can get yourself free of Flouride and other toxic compounds from your system you can open your third eye actually realize the divine on high. It's kind of a cosmic Bluetooth connection that chemicals in our reality have corroded and closed up.
Another set of chemicals that we are consuming with relish is "electrolytes". The only electrolyte that we need is sodium chloride. Table salt, iodized table salt.
All the potassium and phosphoric stuff is detrimental to our systems as well.
I think I've said this in this thread earlier but I'll repeat it.
Never take advise from someone who can't spell fluoride properly.
Especially one who doesn't know what electrolytes are either.
“It is remarkable that the pineal gland has never been analysed separately for F because it has several features which suggest that it could accumulate F. It has the highest calcium concentration of any normal soft tissue in the body because it calcifies physiologically in the form of hydroxyapatite (HA). It has a high metabolic activity coupled with a very profuse blood supply: two factors favouring the deposition of F in mineralizing tissues. The fact that the pineal is outside the blood-brain barrier suggests that pineal HA could sequester F from the bloodstream if it has the same strong affinity for F as HA in the other mineralizing tissues.”
“Alongside the calcification in the developing enamel organ, calcification is also occurring in the child’s pineal. It is a normal physiological process. A complex series of enzymatic reactions within the pinealocytes converts the essential amino acid, tryptophan, to a whole family of indoles. The main pineal hormone is melatonin (MT). For some reason, young children have the highest levels of plasma MT. They also have higher plasma F levels (recommended from a dental perspective) than they did 50 years ago. An increasing number of children suffer from mild dental fluorosis: evidence that they received too much F during the first few years of life. If F accumulates in the pineal gland during early childhood, it could affect pineal indole metabolism. In much the same way that high local concentrations of F in enamel organ and bone affect the metabolism of ameloblasts and osteoblasts.
originally posted by: jinni73
I know how to work out the weights of various compounds I do not know how to work out the weight of each substance that makes up the mass of a single pill this is what I would like to know.
OK so my first statement was trying to refer to your quote that 80% of the weight in a prozac pill is made from carbon hydrogen nitrogen and hydrogen and I said it was misleading because there are other substances in the pill I am trying to find out how much weight of the other ingredients make up the mass of prozac where do you get your percentages from what source are you using, 18.5% of prozac is fluoxetine so that leaves us with 81.5% of what what is the breakdown of each chemical how much maize starch is in the pill, is it 50% its a filler isn't it so if it is used as a filler you are not going to have one molecule of it at a weight of 692.65802 g/mol it is going to be a percentage.
and you said you do not believe fluoride makes children less intelligent and my answer to that is you have studied chemistry and don't know that polonium is dangerous in minute quantities.
sodium silica fluoride contains Polonium
and I do not know if sodium silica fluoride is used in prozac
Health effects of polonium
Polonium is studied in a few nuclear research laboratories where its high radioactivity as an alpha-emitter requires special handling techniques and precautions.
Polonium -210 is the only component of cigarette smoke that has produced cancer by itself in laboratory animals by inhalation - tumors appeared already at a polonium level five times lower than those of a normal heavy smoker.
Lung cancer rates among men kept climbing from a rarity in 1930 (4/100,000 per year) to the No. 1 cancer killer in 1980 (72/100,000) in spite of an almost 20 percent reduction in smoking. But during the same period, the level of polonium -210 in American tobacco had tripled. This coincided with the increase in the use of phosphate fertilizers by tobacco growers - calcium phosphate ore accumulates uranium and slowly releases radon gas.
As radon decays, its electrically charged daughter products attach themselves to dust particles, which adhere to the sticky hairs on the underside of tobacco leaves. This leaves a deposit of radioactive polonium and lead on the leaves. Then, the intense localized heat in the burning tip of a cigarette volatilizes the radioactive metals. While cigarette filters can trap chemical carcinogens, they are ineffective against radioactive vapors.
The lungs of a chronic smoker end up with a radioactive lining in a concentration much higher than from residential radon. These particles emit radiation. Smoking two packs of cigarettes a day imparts a radiation dose by alpha particles of about 1,300 millirem per year. For comparison, the annual radiation dose to the average American from inhaled radon is 200 mrem. However, the radiation dose at the radon "action level" of 4 pCi/L is roughly equivalent to smoking 10 cigarettes a day.
In addition, polunium-210 is soluble and is circulated through the body to every tissue and cell in levels much higher than from residential radon. The proof is that it can be found in the blood and urine of smokers. The circulating polonium -210 causes genetic damage and early death from diseases reminiscent of early radiological pioneers: liver and bladder cancer, stomach ulcer, leukemia, cirrhosis of liver, and cardiovascular diseases.
The Surgeon General C. Everett Koop stated that radioactivity, rather than tar, accounts for at least 90% of all smoking-related lung cancers. The Center for Disease Control concluded "Americans are exposed to far more radiation from tobacco smoke than from any other source."
Cigarette smoking accounts for 30% of all cancer deaths. Only poor diet rivals tobacco smoke as a cause of cancer in the U.S., causing a comparable number of fatalities each year. However, the National Cancer Institute, with an annual budget of $500 million, has no active funding for research of radiation from smoking or residential radon as a cause of lung cancer, presumably, to protect the public from undue fears of radiation.
One intriguing and disturbing fact about fluoridation is that over 90% of the agent used in US fluoridation schemes is not pharmaceutical grade sodium fluoride, on which practically all toxicological testing has been performed, but industrial grade hexafluorosilicic acid obtained from the air pollution scrubbing systems of the superphosphate industry (e.g. Cargill Fertilizer). By law, this waste cannot be dumped into the sea but the EPA allows it to be diluted down with our public drinking water. The union representing scientists at the EPA headquarters in Washington, DC has gone on record as opposing this bizarre form of hazardous waste management
So yes, it's possible to get your politicians to make the right choice...
originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: Metallicus
theyve known about fluoride since the Nazi regime and their experiments, its a by product of gold extraction and the govt buys it off them and pumps it into the water. it pacifies the people and keeps them from questioning or rising up against them. the dental industry profits from it as it actually causes fluorosis. more work for them. one has only to study the most powerful psychotropic medications to see that fluoride is a major component.
my children never had fluoride toothpaste..its shows in their teeth and their higher learning capacity
good on you Metallicus
apologies for punctuatin , on tablet
What the CDC failed to mention is that tooth decay rates have “precipitously declined” in all western countries, irrespective of whether the country ever fluoridated its water. Indeed, most western countries do not fluoridate their water and yet their tooth decay rates have declined at the same rate as the U.S. and other fluoridated countries. This fact, which is widely acknowledged in the dental literature (see below), can be quickly demonstrated by examining the World Health Organization’s (WHO) data on tooth decay trends in each country. The following two figures and table, for example, compare the tooth decay trends in western countries with, and without, water (or salt) fluoridation.
Original oath
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I will use treatment to help the sick according to my ability and judgment, but never with a view to injury and wrong-doing. Neither will I administer a poison to anybody when asked to do so, nor will I suggest such a course.
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"First do no harm"
It is a popular misconception that the phrase "First do no harm" (Latin: Primum non nocere) is a part of the Hippocratic oath. Strictly speaking, the phrase does not appear in the oath, although the oath does contain "Also I will, according to my ability and judgment, prescribe a regimen for the health of the sick; but I will utterly reject harm and mischief",...
Another equivalent phrase is found in Epidemics, Book I, of the Hippocratic school: "Practice two things in your dealings with disease: either help or do not harm the patient".
The use of fluoride to prevent dental caries began in America in the thirties of the twentieth century. Two facts played a role. Firstly, the fluorine compounds that were released as waste by the steel and aluminum industry. The introduction of these wastes into the environment caused massive fish kills, degeneration of joints in cows and humans headache, abdominal pain, skin problems, eye pain and general malaise. Secondly, people found that children who drank from sources with a high fluoride content of water ugly, discolored teeth were brown. moreover, one had the impression that these teeth were harder. These two facts led brought together ensure that fluoride compounds were generously be used in the fight against caries. Soon, scientists observed health problems (fluorosis) in people who used fluoride, and dosages were reduced.
Neurosurgeon Dr. Russell Blaylock spent an entire chapter to this phenomenon in his book "Health and Nutrition Secrets" in which he concludes that of virtually all studies conducted worldwide, the results were either neutral or negative for fluorination of drinking water. In contrast, there are several studies available that demonstrate the true toxicity and noxiousness of fluoride.
Israeli authorities last week unveiled a nationwide ban on the controversial practice of adding the chemical fluoride, labeled a “neurotoxin” by a top medical journal this year, to public water supplies as a medical treatment. The decision by the Health Ministry to ban what critics call a dangerous, involuntary mass-medication scheme drew applause from many medical and some dental experts around the world. However, it also prompted outrage and vicious attacks by proponents of fluoridation, who say the chemical can provide benefits to children’s teeth. The ban is a major blow to supporters of using the water supply to medicate the public.
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In an interview with the Jerusalem Post, Professor Arnon Afek, an expert in pathology and medical administration who serves as director-general at the Health Ministry, applauded the decision and suggested that choice in individual medical matters was key.
“Mandatory fluoridation is medical treatment,” he told the paper, which was widely criticized for its biased reporting on the debate. “Individuals have the right to decide if they want it or not. The question is not if fluoride is beneficial but how it should be delivered. We cannot force people. It is legitimate that experts in the field oppose the health minister’s decision, but we have a policy. The ministry supported it for over 40 years, but this is a new era. The world has changed, and we can educate parents.”
“With fluoridation of tap water, there is no free choice,” Afek added.
Fluorides are important industrial chemicals with a number of uses but the largest uses are for aluminium production, drinking water fluoridation, and the manufacture of fluoridated dental preparations.