GOP Convention: Ohio Gov. Kasich’s brain MIA

I agree with Governor’s decision on not obstructing the 2nd Amendment (Ordering a temporary ban on open carry near the GOP convention).
However, he Does have the ability to call in the Ohio National Guard. Granted, the ghosts of Kent State would rebuke this (how many ATS threads are on Kent State?).

Nevertheless, civil disobedience, and the slaughter of Law Enforcement Officers are at an all-time high in The USA!



Obama won’t do anything like deploying Federal troops (remember The Little Rock Nine) to assist in the possible civil unrest in Cleveland.


I used to respect Mr. Kasich as Governor of Ohio, but his brain is Missing In Action on this non-sagacious action, and only invites tragedy.

a reply to: Violater1

Are you saying he should call in the National Guard or no?

I'm confused as to where you stand on his declaring martial law.

Actually, your whole post is kind of confusing.

Rights are not granted by Governors or law makers. Rights are inherent to every person and come from "God" or are naturally occurring.

He may be able to take away people's rights "lawfully" but it is in no way legitimate.

Actually, the "slaughter" of LEOs in the US is at an all time low.

In 1930, 303 officers were killed.

Last year that number was 123.

Obviously there have been a few highly publicized incidents but at the end of the year, I doubt the totals will be much different from the norm.

While the suspension may stop a few crazies, it would endanger many more by restricting their ability to defend themselves. Unlike the Liberals, I am not ready to sacrifice thousands to save 1.

a reply to: Violater1

I hope Kasich is not vindictive, but he hates Trump and he has refused to attend the RNC. Interesting, don't you think? If he was going to be there, he may have a different perspective.

originally posted by: gladtobehere
a reply to: Violater1

Are you saying he should call in the National Guard or no?

Actually, the "slaughter" of LEOs in the US is at an all time low.

In 1930, 303 officers were killed.

Last year that number was 123.

Obviously there have been a few highly publicized incidents but at the end of the year, I doubt the totals will be much different from the norm.

Yes. Call in the National Guard!
Provide a source or it isn't so.
Minimizing the horrific terrorism to our LEOs ? The point of this thread is to point out the we (the USA) need overwhelm the terror initiative with so many numbers, with advanced intel and planning, that the murderers won't contemplate civil disobedience nor terror attacks.

a reply to: Violater1

I think that if the GOP is really afraid that people are going to crash their circle jerk pep-rally, then they should consider not holding it at all and announcing the official nominee via media.

I don't see why their phony Convention is more important than our Constitution rights.

And the Cleveland Police Union leader can shove it. Being a police officer is dangerous work. If they can't accept that, then they're in the wrong line of work.

a reply to: Violater1

I am not at all saying that what is happening to the officers is justified or okay, but when you see things like the shooting of officers it is usually because something is wrong and needs attention.

originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: Violater1

I am not at all saying that what is happening to the officers is justified or okay, but when you see things like the shooting of officers it is usually because something is wrong and needs attention.

Thats what iv been saying.

Nothing justifys the police murders.

But organised attacks on police is a sign that something has gone wrong somewhere .

originally posted by: Violater1
Provide a source or it isn't so.

Source that shows number of officer killings is down.

Right on! More political bipartisan posts

I miss ridiculous alien posts about reptiles.

ATS= a-political topic site

I knew he was mad he lost, just didn't know he was this mad. Funny guy is Kasich.

Doesn't every governor have the ability to call on the National Guard? I mean, they're supposed to be used for State Defence after all.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Violater1
Provide a source or it isn't so.

Source that shows number of officer killings is down.

False!
Erroneous and misleading reply!
Your link does NOT display CURRENT data, only data from 2006 to 2015. People, check out his source here:
www.nleomf.org...

And while I'm at totally discrediting your reply, explain to the readers what the bottom of your post means!

The Ohio needs to do more in protecting the people at the GOP convention.

originally posted by: Violater1

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Violater1
Provide a source or it isn't so.

Source that shows number of officer killings is down.

False!
Erroneous and misleading reply!
Your link does NOT display CURRENT data, only data from 2006 to 2015. People, check out his source here:
www.nleomf.org...

And while I'm at totally discrediting your reply, explain to the readers what the bottom of your post means!

The Ohio needs to do more in protecting the people at the GOP convention.

You link shows the second lowest rate of officers shot as being last year. And this Law Enforcement Line of Duty Deaths show that this year even with the recent incidents is likely to be just as low.

And their plenty of security at the Convention, sending in the NG would be bone head move. They are not security guards.

originally posted by: Violater1
Your link does NOT display CURRENT data, only data from 2006 to 2015.

And what is more current than that?

...explain to the readers what the bottom of your post means!

Why? You no speaky Latin?

originally posted by: MrSpad

originally posted by: Violater1

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Violater1
Provide a source or it isn't so.

Source that shows number of officer killings is down.

False!
Erroneous and misleading reply!
Your link does NOT display CURRENT data, only data from 2006 to 2015. People, check out his source here:
www.nleomf.org...

And while I'm at totally discrediting your reply, explain to the readers what the bottom of your post means!

The Ohio needs to do more in protecting the people at the GOP convention.

You(sic) link shows the second lowest rate of officers shot as being last year. And this Law Enforcement Line of Duty Deaths show that this year even with the recent incidents is likely to be just as low.

And their plenty of security at the Convention, sending in the NG would be bone head move. They are not security guards.

Are you serious???
Your page
www.odmp.org...
Displays a BIG red arrow,

that “Gun fire deaths this year” have horribly increased +75%!!!



OMG, and your a mod?

originally posted by: Violater1

originally posted by: MrSpad

originally posted by: Violater1

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Violater1
Provide a source or it isn't so.

Source that shows number of officer killings is down.

False!
Erroneous and misleading reply!
Your link does NOT display CURRENT data, only data from 2006 to 2015. People, check out his source here:
www.nleomf.org...

And while I'm at totally discrediting your reply, explain to the readers what the bottom of your post means!

The Ohio needs to do more in protecting the people at the GOP convention.

You link shows the second lowest rate of officers shot as being last year. And this Law Enforcement Line of Duty Deaths show that this year even with the recent incidents is likely to be just as low.

And their plenty of security at the Convention, sending in the NG would be bone head move. They are not security guards.

Are you serious???
Your page
www.nleomf.org...
Displays a BIG red arrow,

that “Gun fire deaths this year” have horribly increased +75%!!!

OMG, and your a mod?

What do you think the link you are posting says? It is chart that shows 41 in 2015, 48 in 2014, and highs in the 70s in 2007 and 2011. It does not even have this year on it. So, maybe you linked the wrong page.

Perhaps you meant to link the other page that has preliminary numbers for 2015 and 2106? Which covers only up until 17 July which shows only 18 for that year but excludes the large surge later in the year that brought the number up to 41. Of course it does not break down accumulate shootings and shooting accidents. So if that is the page you screwed up linking to, it does not provide enough data as officers in gun related deaths surged after that time frame while this year they surged during it. And those are no where near the number of gun related deaths at over 70 for two years in the last 10 years.

And you are comparing to last year the second lowest year in a decade. While this year might no be as low as last years super low numbers it is not going to be near the highest numbers in the last decade. Now, want try again?

a reply to: Violater1

No.

We dont need nor want a Police State.

What we do need is an armed citizenry.

Officer Deaths by Year.

From 2005-2014, more cops died from car crashes and getting sick than they did from being shot.

I would bet that the same will hold true for 2016.

originally posted by: MrSpad

originally posted by: Violater1

originally posted by: MrSpad

originally posted by: Violater1

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Violater1
Provide a source or it isn't so.

Source that shows number of officer killings is down.

False!
Erroneous and misleading reply!
Your link does NOT display CURRENT data, only data from 2006 to 2015. People, check out his source here:
www.nleomf.org...

And while I'm at totally discrediting your reply, explain to the readers what the bottom of your post means!

The Ohio needs to do more in protecting the people at the GOP convention.

You link shows the second lowest rate of officers shot as being last year. And this Law Enforcement Line of Duty Deaths show that this year even with the recent incidents is likely to be just as low.

And their plenty of security at the Convention, sending in the NG would be bone head move. They are not security guards.

Are you serious???
Your page
www.odmp.org...
Displays a BIG red arrow,

that “Gun fire deaths this year” have horribly increased +75%!!!

OMG, and your a mod?

What do you think the link you are posting says? It is chart that shows 41 in 2015, 48 in 2014, and highs in the 70s in 2007 and 2011. It does not even have this year on it. So, maybe you linked the wrong page.

Perhaps you meant to link the other page that has preliminary numbers for 2015 and 2106? Which covers only up until 17 July which shows only 18 for that year but excludes the large surge later in the year that brought the number up to 41. Of course it does not break down accumulate shootings and shooting accidents. So if that is the page you screwed up linking to, it does not provide enough data as officers in gun related deaths surged after that time frame while this year they surged during it. And those are no where near the number of gun related deaths at over 70 for two years in the last 10 years.

And you are comparing to last year the second lowest year in a decade. While this year might no be as low as last years super low numbers it is not going to be near the highest numbers in the last decade. Now, want try again?

Thank you, I corrected the link that you provided in your post.
www.odmp.org...
Everything else stands.
“Gun fire deaths this year” have horribly increased +75%!!!
Let the reader follow the link that you provided. Your reply, " show that this year even with the recent incidents is likely to be just as low. is misleading at best.

So all these past statistics and comparisons are justifying and downplaying Dallas and Baton Rouge.

I will try to remember that.

originally posted by: Violater1

originally posted by: MrSpad

originally posted by: Violater1

originally posted by: MrSpad

originally posted by: Violater1

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Violater1
Provide a source or it isn't so.

Source that shows number of officer killings is down.

False!
Erroneous and misleading reply!
Your link does NOT display CURRENT data, only data from 2006 to 2015. People, check out his source here:
www.nleomf.org...

And while I'm at totally discrediting your reply, explain to the readers what the bottom of your post means!

The Ohio needs to do more in protecting the people at the GOP convention.

You link shows the second lowest rate of officers shot as being last year. And this Law Enforcement Line of Duty Deaths show that this year even with the recent incidents is likely to be just as low.

And their plenty of security at the Convention, sending in the NG would be bone head move. They are not security guards.

Are you serious???
Your page
www.odmp.org...
Displays a BIG red arrow,

that “Gun fire deaths this year” have horribly increased +75%!!!

OMG, and your a mod?

What do you think the link you are posting says? It is chart that shows 41 in 2015, 48 in 2014, and highs in the 70s in 2007 and 2011. It does not even have this year on it. So, maybe you linked the wrong page.

Perhaps you meant to link the other page that has preliminary numbers for 2015 and 2106? Which covers only up until 17 July which shows only 18 for that year but excludes the large surge later in the year that brought the number up to 41. Of course it does not break down accumulate shootings and shooting accidents. So if that is the page you screwed up linking to, it does not provide enough data as officers in gun related deaths surged after that time frame while this year they surged during it. And those are no where near the number of gun related deaths at over 70 for two years in the last 10 years.

And you are comparing to last year the second lowest year in a decade. While this year might no be as low as last years super low numbers it is not going to be near the highest numbers in the last decade. Now, want try again?

Thank you, I corrected the link that you provided in your post.
www.odmp.org...
Everything else stands.
“Gun fire deaths this year” have horribly increased +75%!!!
Let the reader follow the link that you provided. Your reply, " show that this year even with the recent incidents is likely to be just as low. is misleading at best.

Is it? Anything in the 40a is a record low, anything in the 50s is very low, 64 being the average for the last 30 years, with 70 and above being higher years. And that is with the two large attacks.