For what purpose?

I'd like to have an open discussion on what 'Believers" feel as what is the truth?

For the record and once again, I'm a believer in the possibility of ET, and they visiting us presently and/or through out history. The question of whether or not they exist for me is a given.

But...

1.) Do you, as fellow believers, believe abductions occur in the numbers reported? If so, To what purpose do these incredibly high numbers, in your opinion, think "They" are endeavoring towards?

2.) In your own opinion, Why would Earth be such a 'Hot spot" for them, not only to travel such great distances but, also put forth so much effort if the Universe is "Teaming with life"

3.) Why is human DNA, supposedly, so sought after?

4.) Is it our planet or us, or both, that they care so much to study to put forth so much effort?

and finally.....

5.) If they have had a hand in our Creation/adaptation/development/modification..etc, are we a failure or is it that they haven't finished screwing around with us yet. A work still in progress?

I'm sure some skeptics will feel this topic is both ridiculous and redundant (As always they are free to chime in) but, there IS a method to my madness...

a reply to: SLAYER69

Hey Slay, good day! I dont think its a possibilty, but a given on their existence. As to the abduction, dna, who, when, why, where, what for...I think we have to wait for them to decide when we consider ourselves as one race...the human race as a whole.

End the violence, work together, think as one...I think they are waiting on us....and most likely put us here to grow eons ago. We just are too unorganized and self centered on our different beliefs and religions.

When we finally exhibit the oneness necessary...then the history, contact, realization that we are not alone and never were...will be made obvious.

Looking at events of the last month...we have a long way to go to prove ourselves...:/

MS

I had a theory but some people insulted me for saying it.

They come from the future, they decent from us and they look in us for something they lost and need it to survive, after years of transgenic and pesticides they lost their gut bacteria, the gut microbiome died and they have no way to digest, they come to the past looking for the best microbiota samples (anal probes) closest to the time the change in diet that in the end created them gray and fragile happened. they also take food sample to see if its working (all the cows gored).

They come to get Fecal microbiota transplants.

The alternative theory is they are bored alien teenagers that like to anal probe the primitives...

If ancients had done some improper evoking of close-world entities, we could experience similar phenomenon now. This said, I bet most of recordings wound not be from celestial beings which we could observe by telescope. Yet nothing stops the possibility their primary habitation to be exactly stellar.

a reply to: mysterioustranger

How about things such as Alien created "Crop Circles" ?

+Are there any of that crowd present?

Do you think we are supposed to be studying/learning/implementing their meanings into our consciousness/science/culture etc somehow as they become more advanced and complicated ?

originally posted by: SLAYER69
I'd like to have an open discussion on what 'Believers" feel as what is the truth?

For the record and once again, I'm a believer in the possibility of ET, and they visiting us presently and/or through out history. The question of whether or not they exist for me is a given.

But...

1.) Do you, as fellow believers, believe abductions occur in the numbers reported? If so, To what purpose do these incredibly high numbers, in your opinion, think "They" are endeavoring towards?

2.) In your own opinion, Why would Earth be such a 'Hot spot" for them, not only to travel such great distances but, also put forth so much effort if the Universe is "Teaming with life"

3.) Why is human DNA, supposedly, so sought after?

4.) Is it our planet or us, or both, that they care so much to study to put forth so much effort?

and finally.....

5.) If they have had a hand in our Creation/adaptation/development/modification..etc, are we a failure or is it that they haven't finished screwing around with us yet. A work still in progress?

I'm sure some skeptics will feel this topic is both ridiculous and redundant (As always they are free to chime in) but, there IS a method to my madness...

1) I don't know the numbers, many of these experiences could be just bad nightmares or sleep paralisys, but certainly many of them are actual physical abductions. We don't know why they need too many participants, I think it's related to the scope of the project. Meaning, the apparent ultimate goal seems to be the massive production of an entire hybrid race, that can infiltrate our society to live among us.

Many abductees also have reported that they're occasionally 'trained' by the aliens, even on how to manipulate using telephatic abilities to control other humans.

Also, the phenomena is clearly generational, it means that if one of the parents is an abductee, the children will be too. I think that the actual numbers is related to the objective of mantaining a proportional amount of assets (abductees/hybrids) regarding the human population growth.

2) Unknown, we could only speculate.

3) How do we know that, compared to whom?

4) The effort level the aliens have been putting into the abduction agenda is shocking, and now, with the relatively new knowledge that they're introducing the human looking hybrid into our society with infiltration purposes, we could start drawing some early thoughts.

First, we're about to become second class citizens, these hybrids retain their masters' ability of reading and controlling human minds; secondly, usually some abductees have been told by the aliens about a time where 'the change' will come, it sounds like and before-and-after type of scenario, it could mean that once they feel confortable with the numbers of assets, they could start a complete takeover of our society.

In any case, I don't trust in any kind of intelligence that remains in the shadows, abduct human beings against their will and try to bury the memories of the events. What kind of 'bright' future we could expect from the interaction with such beings?

a reply to: SLAYER69

Cool idea, brainstorming!

1. Abductions, it's like with the sightings, some see mundane things and immediately fill in alien. With abduction the mundane things might be normal, but stressed people, dreaming about their birth.
But some, the equivalent of the 5% are really weird.
The purpose, manipulation. Of our behaviour, our perception, the course of our lifes, our DNA, ... Who knows?

2. I don't think they travel far at all. And I wouldn't call earth a hotspot. It's really just a few which had encounters.

3. Because of the breeding program.

4. I have a strong feeling, the planet is more important. A rare blue marvel.

5. I believe they find the errors, lies and gaps, in both our history and religion, very handy. And after all if I would take humans as model, there are maybe some wanting to kill us and some saying "oh but they're so cute and self aware and smart, they just don't know any better!" and some in between and some don't care at all.

First rule and a good start on your road to paranoia: nothing is what it seems to be and truth is stranger than fiction.


a reply to: JackHill

These hybrids are also just beings, born and raised humans. Not automatically some psychos out to kill.
They might not even be hybrids, just humans with a link-pod installed, or a biological relais attached, or whatever.
Not one dna test of any alleged hybrid ever was weird.

Here is what I think.

If we a part of some extra terrestrial intelligent design.

They got it so wrong.

They needs to go back to ye olde drawing board.

I think the mandela effect applies to all things UFO, and ET.

Just my 2 cents.

a reply to: SLAYER69

I believe in the U in UFO's.

The rest doesn't add up IMO. If a species was so advanced that they can seemingly break the laws of physics to traverse the galaxy in order to save another species; Hell we have failed to save species on our own planet so why would ET fly light years just to save us? why haven't they saved the dodo or the Thylacine or many of the other species? so many questions so little answers.

a reply to: SLAYER69

Maybe they look as us as a potential threat.

They don't want to have to wipe us out, but if we don't exhibit the ability to interact with the rest of the universe like reasonable beings before developing interstellar travel, they may have to put us down before we infect the galaxy.

Great replies so far.

Partly why I'm asking is that I watched some videos recently where several "Abductees" mentioned Earth and us humans were not all that remarkable but rather, very average and honestly supposedly pretty "Redundant" as far as life in the Universe was concerned.

The other half was based on my own opinion that some of the stories of the encounters seemed pretty far fetched and pointless...

originally posted by: SLAYER69
Great replies so far.

Partly why I'm asking is that I watched some videos recently where several "Abductees" mentioned Earth and us humans were not all that remarkable but rather, very average and honestly supposedly pretty "Redundant" as far as life in the Universe was concerned.

The other half was based on my own opinion that some of the stories of the encounters seemed pretty far fetched and pointless...

It's interesting to note that they seem to be incredible efficient, even since the beginning. We don't have early cases were 'errors' were commited, my point being, it seems (and it's pure speculation) that our race isn't the first to be engaged by these beings, and their typo of 'invasion' is really clever, like 'from inside' instead 'from above' like usually Hollywood shows us.

a reply to: SLAYER69

Yes sir, I do. Matter of fact, I believe crop circles...at least to me? They seem to be messages from them to us...and some I believe...are in secret, our replies to them. Those facts are just kept from those of the population that just wont understand...nor believe they are that.

Thanks

I try to fancy myself as a "knower" rather than a "believer" of some sort.

Our Earth is probably a "rare jewel" in or galaxy...so much that the "others" are concerned about our planet "going to pot" --- Since they probably have statistics of other planetary intelligent civilizations, that have already or have an intent to destroy themselves from nuclear armageddon, global warming, etcetra etcetra; and a overall discord between the peoples' that inhabit those planets which might lead to mutual or planetary destruction.

NASA's nuclear free Juno probe, should show the otherworlders, that we might have some hope in ourselves, in that it is a right step, compared to carrying radioactive isotopes on space probes or ICBM's.

a reply to: SLAYER69

Ok..

I can make it make sense.

This is not what I believe, I don't know what to believe so take that into account but...

WE were created in Gods' image. Yes Gods' not God's, not a typo. Gods' image.. Annunaki whatever whatever..
Our genetics could be from very powerful "aliens" that have since moved on or whatever..

Another group jealous of us (sounds like fallen angels/demons) another group of aliens comes in and wants our genetics either to make the experiemnt fail by tainting us, or to infiltrate us.. What if DNA is like a soul antenna? so like I have an Earth human soul.. to come into a human body your soul would have to anchor or be compatible with, the DNA..

They could be altering DNA and putting their own in making "human" babies that have alien souls..

Then they could be Gods favorite or just make sure all humans die or whatever it is..


anyway there's one theory for you.


but again.. I've thought about this for years and never really made it make sense one way or another , and at the very least someone is flying black triangles that make no sound hover and fly off at infinite looking speeds.. could have hit it with a baseball. gawd that was scary.

Does the Biology student care if his fruit flies are spiritually evolved?

When the fruit flies hear the Biology student conversing does it understand what is being said?

Either we are ants/fruit flies to them, or what we 'think" are ET's are actually terrestrial and just like playing games with humans. Either way too much anthropomorphizing is going on from us humans, and by continuing to do so we set ourselves back in ever being able to find answers.

originally posted by: SLAYER69


1.) Do you, as fellow believers, believe abductions occur in the numbers reported? If so, To what purpose do these incredibly high numbers, in your opinion, think "They" are endeavoring towards?

Slave labor. Or interns.

2.) In your own opinion, Why would Earth be such a 'Hot spot" for them, not only to travel such great distances but, also put forth so much effort if the Universe is "Teaming with life"

One-stop shopping. Earth is like Walmart. We have everything here.

3.) Why is human DNA, supposedly, so sought after?

Diversity. They have the same problems we have. #GreenlivesMatter.

4.) Is it our planet or us, or both, that they care so much to study to put forth so much effort?

Again, it is The Walmart Paradigm.

and finally.....

5.) If they have had a hand in our Creation/adaptation/development/modification..etc, are we a failure or is it that they haven't finished screwing around with us yet. A work still in progress?

Work in progress. They haven't finished altering the climate yet. (Yes, they are responsible)

I believe we've been visited many times throughout history. Even as far back as our ancestors. Facts aside its my guttural feeling. I think "now", most visitations are being handled with elite government groups and unfortunately, this is why we do not witness any communication. Area's out in the mid-west, or even remote parts of Russia are so large, that it would be very easy to hide extraterrestrial visitations. This isn't taking into account the possibility that anyone coming here, whom is advanced, could hide there visible foot print via advanced technology.

Regardless if this is taken serious or not by others, for me.. it makes life a little bit more interesting. Mystery creates wonder. If we knew everything.. life would be very bland.

Cheerz!

Note: I was an avid amateur astronomer in my younger years. I've witness some very un-explainable events in the sky's above me. Enough so, that I'm here at the bottom of this rabbit hole!

originally posted by: Peeple


a reply to: JackHill

These hybrids are also just beings, born and raised humans. Not automatically some psychos out to kill.
They might not even be hybrids, just humans with a link-pod installed, or a biological relais attached, or whatever.
Not one dna test of any alleged hybrid ever was weird.

They're not born and raised humans, they're born and raised in artificial alien enviroments, they don't have 'parents' or human education. What happens then, is that abductees are forced to teach them the basics about our society, how to properly eat in a table, how to sleep in a bed, how to cook, how to interact with human beings, etc, etc, things that we take for granted.

When these hybrids are older enough, they start to visit the abductees at their homes, they force the abductees to go outside in a vehicle, to shop, take a walk in a park, while try to learn as much as possible about our daily lives.

At some point, they will be introduced into our society, they already know all they need, so they get a place and start living and working among us.

They look human, but they work according to what the aliens tell them to do, and retain their mind reading/controlling abilities, which allow them to sort out any 'problem' they could eventually find when dealing with humans. For instance, they could get anything they want from a shop without paying, mentally convincing the cashier, even when they try to not to do such things, because their orders are to blend in as good as possible.

1. Don't really believe in abductions so much because anyone can say it they've been, and if they were coming here for reproductive ooze because they toyed with their genetics that much that they have no more mojo, maybe they are trying to replicate it.

2. Maybe it not a hotspot, but more of a POI due to the amount life, but who know how much life is out there. Maybe intelligent life is more rare.

3. Well, there time travelers or extra-dimensionals, or something in between, where we could almost digital to them, they could read us like a book, and we could just be their basis for existing. Where also mainly made out of water too.

There also the E.T believe becoming sterile due too much technological blending, and not being able to reproduce, or may have realized a flaw in their own designs.

4. I don't see anyones name on it.

5. The gears won't kick in for a long time.