Will "those guys" forgive Micah like "BLM" forgave Dylan Roof?

Just curious.

Do you think that "that side" will say they forgive the shooter of the Dallas cops in the same or similar way "the other side" forgave Dylan Roof (who killed 9 people instead of 5, in a church no less)?

Why or why not?

a reply to: theySeeme

When did they do that?

originally posted by: pavil
a reply to: theySeeme

When did they do that?

I knew people would claim it never happened, selective memories and what not.



- www.theatlantic.com...
Hatred and Forgiveness in Charleston
The compassion expressed by relatives of the victims in Charleston offers a stark contrast with Dylann Roof’s hateful manifesto, discovered on Saturday.

- www.washingtonpost.com... 0de81c94
Post Nation
‘I forgive you.’ Relatives of Charleston church shooting victims address Dylann Roof

- theweek.com...
"The problem with forgiving Dylann Roof"

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Now some of you may see this as agitating, however it's a very valid point. Immediately after the shooting all major news networks were broadcasting stories of black folks saying they forgive the shooter and hope that people learn from this - yet after this shooting on 5 dallas cops (4 less than the 9 victims of Dylan Roof, not that that's any less tragic though.) the world goes crazy, and instead of seeing white people saying they forgive the shooter- we see his reputation and image (however true or false) being dragged through the mud without trial.

A man who won't have a trial because he was killed literally by a drone on U.S soil without having been proven guilty (except by media) while Dylann Roof and James Holmes were taken in and bought Burger King.

The only other time the U.S used a bomb on a suspect was 30 years ago in the MOVE incident in philidelphia, and that was another case of black people fighting oppression. Is that coincidence? That the only two times a bomb were ever used in american policing history, they were used on racial tensions on blacks? That's another topic entirely though.

I guess what I'm getting at is the fact that, especially here on ATS, many people hold strong racial prejudice against blacks, but when the tables are turned they don't hold the same candle. Like the ranchers that occupied government land with guns, with one even aiming his gun at officers. The same folks here who are anti-black were supporting the ranchers. The same folks here said it's not right he was killed without a trial, even though video evidence showed him aiming his gun. Why is this name benefit of doubt and support not given to the other side?

Does anyone here realize that this is LITERALLY divide and conquer? That the two strongest groups in America who will fight back against this insane thing called government are being pitted against eachother, while the real enemy slips out of sight and out of mind? Do you think the mexicans, the muslim immigrants, and all the other ethnicity are really going to fight for this country if # hits the fan? I don't think so, not many of them. But I can bet majority of whites and blacks will be willing to fight to defend this country from domestic terrorists holding posts within our ranks --

or maybe they won't since those two groups are too busy fighting eachother.

originally posted by: pavil
a reply to: theySeeme

When did they do that?

Good question.
I see references to people forgiving Dylan Roof... but not the BLM organization.

I think you will see families of slain cops forgiving this guy right after you see news reports of Dylan Roof being an avowed "anti-white supremacist".

I don't know where you get your news from, but everything I've read and seen about Dallas has placed the emphasis on the shooter's status as a Veteran and not his race. Roof's case was all about race.

The media wants this to be about something other than race. You want it to be about race. Why is that?

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: pavil
a reply to: theySeeme

When did they do that?

Good question.
I see references to people forgiving Dylan Roof... but not the BLM organization.

Not sure if you realize that BLM is not a person? Are you asking for forgiveness on behalf of an organization/company that isn't human? The only thing you can get are persons that support the core principles of the movement.

originally posted by: 200Plus
I think you will see families of slain cops forgiving this guy right after you see news reports of Dylan Roof being an avowed "anti-white supremacist".

I don't know where you get your news from, but everything I've read and seen about Dallas has placed the emphasis on the shooter's status as a Veteran and not his race. Roof's case was all about race.

The media wants this to be about something other than race. You want it to be about race. Why is that?

They put emphasis on his status as a veteran to give people context into how he was able to pull this off, by himself no less.

And what the fck?

originally posted by: 200Plus

I don't know where you get your news from, but everything I've read and seen about Dallas has placed the emphasis on the shooter's status as a Veteran and not his race. Roof's case was all about race.

You cant be serious?! , you are friggin nuts.

a reply to: theySeeme

Methodists are quick to forgive, as salvation is an important part of their doctrine, and applies to all humans. Their skin-colour had nothing to do with it.

originally posted by: pavil
a reply to: theySeeme

When did they do that?

Exaclty. WTH? BLM didn't do it. The families of the victims did. You know..."that side."

Weird and for sure baiting tif not ranting hread.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: theySeeme

Methodists are quick to forgive, as salvation is an important part of their doctrine, and applies to all humans. Their skin-colour had nothing to do with it.

But it has everything to do with it when the media spins it and people even here on ATS gobble it up, despite claiming in other topics they are anti-msm

It's strange.

a reply to: theySeeme


His "status as a veteran" was a few months is Afghanistan in an Engineer Battalion. He killed multiple veterans with multiple combat tours including an Army Ranger.


I'm nuts, you're clueless, what a wonderful world we create in our own minds.

You literally said, and I quote

I don't know where you get your news from, but everything I've read and seen about Dallas has placed the emphasis on the shooter's status as a Veteran and not his race.

I cannot have a legitimate debate or discussion with you because you deny fact.

originally posted by: theySeeme

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: pavil
a reply to: theySeeme

When did they do that?

Good question.
I see references to people forgiving Dylan Roof... but not the BLM organization.

Not sure if you realize that BLM is not a person? Are you asking for forgiveness on behalf of an organization/company that isn't human? The only thing you can get are persons that support the core principles of the movement.

Is 'BLM' in your title? (It is, by the way. You pinned the forgiveness as being given by the 'BLM'.)

Do you have documentation that any of the people that offered forgiveness are BLM members?

a reply to: theySeeme

Just because someone is Black does not make them BLM official response. Those clips were the church members or family members of the victims doing the forgiveness my point still stands. When did blacklivesmatter Issue or forgive his atrocious Act?

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: theySeeme

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: pavil
a reply to: theySeeme

When did they do that?

Good question.
I see references to people forgiving Dylan Roof... but not the BLM organization.

Not sure if you realize that BLM is not a person? Are you asking for forgiveness on behalf of an organization/company that isn't human? The only thing you can get are persons that support the core principles of the movement.

Is 'BLM' in your title?

Do you have documentation that any of the people that offered forgiveness are BLM members?

Which is why I put BLM in quotes. I've seen several posts, even from you yourself categorizing a black person as "BLM". In fact, many of you phrased terms like "BLM kills dallas police", when the real truth is that the shooter actually did not support BLM or identify as a supporter.

Here in the church, all 9 victims were proud and open supporters of the movement, and so it's fair to say that BLM forgave the Dylann Roof, as that mercy spread throughout the entire organization. You did not see people calling for the murder of white people in churches after that incident, did you?

Let us not let bias and prejudice (that is so nasty it's in our courts and police departments) cloud the point of this topic.

a reply to: theySeeme

Doesn't your title say "...like BLM forgave Dylan Roof...?"

originally posted by: pavil
a reply to: theySeeme

Just because someone is Black does not make them BLM official response. Those clips were the church members or family members of the victims doing the forgiveness my point still stands. When did blacklivesmatter Issue or forgive his atrocious Act?

That's exactly my point! Perhaps I'm using a bit of satire here, but my point is that not all black people are BLM, even though anytime a black person does something even remotely appearing as "against"; it's labeled BLM.

And so using this satire, or this logic of some of you people - it's fair to say that BLM forgives Dylan Roof. Don't be mad at me, I'm just speaking their language.

originally posted by: LSU0408
a reply to: theySeeme

Doesn't your title say "...like BLM forgave Dylan Roof...?"

If you are going to quote me, be sure to use the quotes I used around BLM as well, as "BLM".

originally posted by: theySeeme

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: theySeeme

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: pavil
a reply to: theySeeme

When did they do that?

Good question.
I see references to people forgiving Dylan Roof... but not the BLM organization.

Not sure if you realize that BLM is not a person? Are you asking for forgiveness on behalf of an organization/company that isn't human? The only thing you can get are persons that support the core principles of the movement.

Is 'BLM' in your title?

Do you have documentation that any of the people that offered forgiveness are BLM members?

Which is why I put BLM in quotes. I've seen several posts, even from you yourself categorizing a black person as "BLM". In fact, many of you phrased terms like "BLM kills dallas police", when the real truth is that the shooter actually did not support BLM or identify as a supporter.

Here in the church, all 9 victims were proud and open supporters of the movement, and so it's fair to say that BLM forgave the Dylann Roof, as that mercy spread throughout the entire organization. You did not see people calling for the murder of white people in churches after that incident, did you?

Let us not let bias and prejudice (that is so nasty it's in our courts and police departments) cloud the point of this topic.

What?!? The media was/is reporting this as a response to the Two recent shootings in MN and LA. Those kind of incidents are the crux of the BLM movement.

Also where did you get the members of the Charleston Church were BLM members or activists? They weren't singled out by Roof for that, it was just a convient Black Church from what I recall