Dallas shooting!

a reply to: Shamrock6

Not trying to be a suck-up,but that is an awesome post.I never thought about it that way.It sure explains away a lot of confusion in the beginning.Thank You.

a reply to: VimanaExplorer

I still think the attacker got silenced.

He was out murdering people and holding an entire city hostage, but lets all worry about his point of view?

If you really want to stop these atrocities in future, isn' t better to analyze what is causing these guys go on rampage? or at least make an attempt to capture him alive and get to the bottom of this.

Too many lives already lost to take that risk. Dude made his bed and now he's splattered on it and rightly so.

What we should be concerned with is this:

A sniper took aim and shot multiple police officers. They say it was a lone gunman, however, that does not make sense. With only 2 protestors shot, the number of police shot would suggest some one was targeting and pointing them out to the shooter. The first shot, people would ignore, cause it could have been fire crackers, we were out of the 4th of July, but when the first 2 officers downed, there would have been chaos and people panicking, moving all over, and thus for him to hit the other officers and so few of the protestors, would be an indication that he was not working alone.

The next point, and this one should make us pause, is the actual conversation, reports are varied, but the bottom line is that this guy is associated with no one? That he wanted to kill police officers and white officers at that? And that there were bombs all around and that soon it would be all over? The question now should be where are the bombs, though they are working on clearing the area, but that they are not sure, should make us worried to no end.

The final part of this, and one that everyone should be worried and talking about is how this was ended, not with a person holding a weapon, but by a drone. That is right, it was a robot, with an explosive attached to it, used to kill the sniper. How convenient that they would use such to not only end the attack, but eliminate the only person who could actually answer or even speak.

Something does not seem right or correct about how they ended it, for now the police are using military hard ware, something designed and used in a war or a battle against the very citizens it is sworn to protect. There were many hearings about such and it was the concern of all who voiced opposition to the use of drones, that it could be turned around and used here at home. And now it appears as though the fears were just well founded.

a reply to: sdcigarpig

It wasn't a drone. Calling it a drone evokes images of a Predator shooting missiles, which is not the case. Call it what it is.

It was an EOD robot with a device taped to it. A capability which has been around for years, and only now used to end an extreme situation. It was a robot controlled by a human that had to drive the robot to the attacker and flip the switch.

The attacker was given an opportunity to end things in a different way (I'm sure it was offered just to appease the folks who shout conspiracy every time a bad guy ends up dead, of course) and elected not to do so. Crying that not enough was done to end the situation without killing the attacker is infantile.

a reply to: sdcigarpig

If this is actually how it ended I can't see what is wrong with that. Someone thought on his feet and defused the situation without risking more lives. Does it make any difference how he was killed? And those robots aren't strictly military hardware civilians use them for a variety of roles.

I do agree with your point about his ability to kill and wound so efficiently and accurately when he was firing with civilians in the background. The whole military training thing doesn't cover it. He was a carpenter by trade not a frogman. Anyone with shooting or military experience will tell you that he hasn't done that alone. I would point to several shooters being talked onto targets and firing a synchronised volley and then men leaving the scene with as little fuss as possible.

Shooter was a carpenter/mason specialist WANNABE.

a reply to: cavtrooper7

Thats my point. That military training rubbish will explain him operating alone to a lot of people when in actual fact it doesn't come close to covering it. Be interesting to read some of this man's records and hear from people who shared a range or two with him if he knew his arse from his muzzle.

a reply to: sg1642

Scuttlebutt on the 19D SCOUT page says he was a lousy shot ,per fellow vets ..sorry no link.
It would explain the light casualties.

a reply to: cavtrooper7

It wouldn't explain the casualties at all. A lousy shot doesn't pick out a dozen targets in a crowd of civilians and shoot them with minimum fuss. I hate to use the word targets because these were men with families. It is absolutely vile and despicable.

It will be interesting to see the location of all who were shot and number if rounds fired and time line. Just read that now our new lone sniper shot from same building but different floors...hmm, let's add some cardio to the already difficult shots.

For those who have not been in the military..every soldier, let me repeat that, every soldier gets a ' marksman' badge during basic training. In my day a ' marksman' could hit 24 -26 out of 30, an ' expert marksman' got 27 or more. So the media will call this army reservists a ' military trained marksman'.

originally posted by: yeahsurexxx
sorry for this but I have no time reading 120 pages. Just one Q:

Was the gunman alone? the MSM here in sweden open every segment regarding this with " we are sure he was alone", "the lone gunman" etc..

What i heard yesterday was "snipers" and today he was a lone gunman.

Can somebody sum this up for me since my BS nerve is itching.

thanks.

I didn't do a hunt for any Dallas PD dispatcher audios of what happened so I don't know what's online but I did come across this video yesterday. I've been meaning to post it in one of these threads.

There's an echo in the DPD dispatcher audio but the scroll text of what was said can be seen on the video, though the text isn't synched with the words spoken by the dispatcher and police. There's a delay.

Start the video at the 7 minute mark. (I tried to code the video key to start at 7 min. but it didn't work.)

A short intro to the audio will be heard at that point before the audio is played. The first seven minutes of the video are about other subjects (Hillary and her emails).

If this audio in some format has already been posted, my apology. I've been trying to keep up with some fast moving threads.

Of course, anything said by the dispatcher and police can be dissed by anyone wanting to maintain the new narrative of a lone shooter but it's still interesting to listen to what was said.

a reply to: Shamrock6

And what is a drone, save a device that has been around for years, a remote controlled air place that is equipped with weapons, highly expensive, and requires a human to control with a remote control and joystick.

a reply to: sg1642

There is a lot that is wrong with this entire episode. For starters it is an electronic device, using computers and radio waves, that is highly dangerous. What if someone else was using the same signal and then turned it on the police then what? It is possible, and hackers are always looking to do such, some actually succeeding in it. Another would be what about the damage it could cause not just to the suspect, but also those around. And finally, why give a person who is intent on breaking the law ideas about such?

There are a lot of questions, that will not be answered, and ultimately we can only hope that it was a bluff that the suspect was pulling, but now people have to deal with in the Dallas area. While yes what the suspect is accused of, there is no justice delivered, no answers as to why, no trial, in short, he was killed and now all charges are to be dropped and the books closed.

While the police did act to stop the event, they also acted without concern for the rights of people. There are other options, why not use such to say fire a tazer at the person, or any other means to disable, why kill? Surely it would have been better to take the man alive, and hold him accountable for his actions, and to answer to the people, not to have one group act as judge, jury and executioner.

a reply to: sdcigarpig

I know what you are saying and you are right but in a situation where you are under fire and taking casualties it goes beyond seeking justice and answers and turns to saving lives. By whatever means.

Just thought I would post this here to remind people that not all men with a badge are racist or bad people. And the dangers they face every day to uphold the law.

a reply to: sdcigarpig

If you were to do some research into radio control vehicles, you'll realize that it isn't very expensive at all to acquire second hand equipment from dummies who always have to have the latest gear. It's pretty much the same with everything else, only being expensive if you're worried about what your peers think of your stuff, which means nothing.

For little money an FPV setup can be constructed to run almost any radio control vehicle whether for flying or land use, that can be operated with your "dumb phone", all waterproof and everything.

Just nevermind all of those ads for the supposedly "High end" crap, it's the same old hype and the tech advancements don't negate the old tech that still works just fine.

Especially if you're just going to destroy it anyway.

Black Power Political Organization – BPPO states its goals:

“We Are A Powerful Political Group Of Patriotic, Pro Black, Pan African”

“Black Power” are also part of Black Panthers (who are mostly moslem) and they promised that “More Will Be Assassinated In The Coming Days! Do You Like The Work Of Our Assassins? Get Your Own Sniper”

the above copy-paste came from Shoebat.com
shoebat.com... -pro-muslim-gov-is-setting-the-stage-for-civil-war-in-america/



BPPO is the group the Dallas (lone Sniper) (ha ha ha) had links to on his 'Facebook' Page (since scrubbed)


my take is that MX (the vet with assault rifles access) is the exact home-grown terrorist that Obama has deemed the most threatning, (of course without the white skin as this perp was a Black 25 yo man)...because he was a troubled Vet with Christian names who was allowed to own assault weapons to eventually shoot white police in Dallas..And was not himself a Muslim Jihadist like the Islamaphobes always cite as the greatest danger to western society.


my take is that MX was the leader os a team with 2 or 3 other assailants to open fire on surprised police escorts of the peaceful protest underway...
the others were only assigned to fire an initial volley of shots then to bug-out and let MX take over as the lone/primary shooter on the Dallas Street... which he did by walking around 2/3rds of the glass building using the columns as cover until fleeing to the college parking buildings right next door.


the whole crime scene is/was being sanitized/scrubbed even as the shooting was going on...
the 3 accomplices are being protected, the crime is pre-determined to be a lone-wolf deed even before the forensic evidence is collected/catalogued


this whole thing stinks to high heaven... that's because Dallas shooting is the initial start of the summer of chaos series of racial shootings meant to throw the entire 'free society' into panic and division...

by fall elections there should be several Islam/Sharia dominated communities petitioning the DHS for unique treatment as Muslim dominions affording the Islamics there extra security from racism-discrimination of their unique civil rights exposure (or lack thereof because of White / racist/ Islamaphobe Americans-vets-preppers-bikers


that's all I will stuff this post with as it could become too daunting to comprehend if I go on in details....

a reply to: sdcigarpig

Except not all drones require human input to navigate. And that whole "aerial vehicle" sorta eliminates EOD robots, since they roll across the ground.

a reply to: sdcigarpig

Why piss and moan about police not using less lethal means to counter a lethal threat? And a legitimate, no room to question, lethal threat. He had means, ability, and intent to continue being a lethal threat. So why are the bleeding hearts pissing their pants over not using a robot to try and Taser him?

Because it doesn't matter what law enforcement does, it's wrong. Which is why we keep seeing people crying about "what if there were people near him?!?" As if the police didn't make any effort at all to evacuate the area and just said "you know what screw it, let's see if we can blow him up!"

I'll be the first to state many past situations with police should have been handled differently IMO, but in this one after 12 down and not willing to stop, do what it takes. Small bomb or a 100 bullets, basic same result, without more casualties.