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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Obama said Hillary is the best qualified person to be President.

He's going to eat those words in the end.

In fact, he already has after today's "on the record" hearings proving more lies from Hillary.

It's a Sherlock Holmes mystery.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

Gowdy is desperately trying to wash off the stink of the "failure" of his Benghazi investigation.

I hope the Republicans go full bore on this. Two, three four investigations at one time. They sure as heck aren't doing anything else.

Watch Hillary's poll numbers SKYROCKET.

a reply to: Indigo5

You think someone couldnt prove beyond a reasonable doubt that she didn't know about thousands of emails not turned over?

originally posted by: BlueAjah
a reply to: CynConcepts

Yep, I got the impression that Comey might have been suggesting that they request an investigation of the perjury.

I agree, he sure repeated enough times that he had a narrow investigation and almost had to beg them to understand what needed to be done before he could pursue other more felonious avenues. I think he seemed frustrated in trying to get them to realize that a slap on the wrist for this email case was nothing...but hey...over here if we follow protocol of law is a more prudent justice.

Hell, even Capone was I prisoner due to tax evasion since there was not any direct evidence of any of his other crimes. Comey will find a way to ensure justice, why else be so unprecedently transparent. It is all there, just per policy, he needs the request to follow up on it.

a reply to: Gryphon66

By saying that Killary's poll numbers will skyrocket, after she's been caught LYING in a matter of NATIONAL SECURITY, you are implying that the American people are retarded, and will vote for that criminal nevertheless?

I refuse to accept that.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: MotherMayEye

Gowdy is desperately trying to wash off the stink of the "failure" of his Benghazi investigation.

I hope the Republicans go full bore on this. Two, three four investigations at one time. They sure as heck aren't doing anything else.

Watch Hillary's poll numbers SKYROCKET.

That's what I was thinking.

We just got over this entire Benghazi disaster. It was a complete failure and is 100% owned by the GOP. Now we have an end in site concerning the emails and the GOP has to make a decision.

If they decide to make this email issue another Benghazi, I don't think it will work in their favor as they may hope.

originally posted by: Nikola014
a reply to: Gryphon66

By saying that Killary's poll numbers will skyrocket, after she's been caught LYING in a matter of NATIONAL SECURITY, you are implying that the American people are retarded, and will vote for that criminal nevertheless?

I refuse to accept that.

It appears that almost half of this country may vote for Trump.

That is retarded. It's not implied. That's fact.

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Obama said Hillary is the best qualified person to be President.

He's going to eat those words in the end.

In fact, he already has after today's "on the record" hearings proving more lies from Hillary.

It's a Sherlock Holmes mystery.

Yet, the President's numbers keep going up, and HIllary is still leading Trump, as she has for most of the last year.

I'm starting to think that some folks here are just completely out of touch with the realities of the American people.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: Aazadan

Lying is not a serious issue.

Obviously it isn't for you.
I teach my children something different.

You teach your children that politicians tell the truth?

That seems to be a disservice.

I would teach them that you are a disingenuous arse.
Go look at what I quoted on that post.


Folks, these are the kinds of people that support Hillary Clinton.

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: Aazadan

Lying is not a serious issue.

Obviously it isn't for you.
I teach my children something different.

You teach your children that politicians tell the truth?

That seems to be a disservice.

I would teach them that you are a disingenuous arse.
Go look at what I quoted on that post.


Folks, these are the kinds of people that support Hillary Clinton.

Yeah, Butch ... it's about me.

Do politicians lie, or not?

a reply to: introvert

I see that you will never forgive Trump for breaking casino rules..
He's such a bad boy.

Who cares about democracy and laws, when the US was created upon rules of casino.

Hail Killary 2016.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Regardless, Gowdy made a solid point about using false exculpatory statements, made to the public, to prove intent and consciousness of guilt. It was a point that Comey acknowledged and conceded. It would be difficult for Comey to ignore such evidence if Congress refers a perjury investigation.

I have little faith that anyone in government actually wants to prove criminal activity in government, but I do not believe that perjury would be impossible to prosecute -- if the DOJ was actually willing. But, no, they probably aren't.

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: MotherMayEye

Gowdy is desperately trying to wash off the stink of the "failure" of his Benghazi investigation.

I hope the Republicans go full bore on this. Two, three four investigations at one time. They sure as heck aren't doing anything else.

Watch Hillary's poll numbers SKYROCKET.

That's what I was thinking.

We just got over this entire Benghazi disaster. It was a complete failure and is 100% owned by the GOP. Now we have an end in site concerning the emails and the GOP has to make a decision.

If they decide to make this email issue another Benghazi, I don't think it will work in their favor as they may hope.

This is very different than Benghazi - comparing the two is pretty ignorant.

They set up a perfectly reasonable case for perjury. Which, if I remember correctly that resulted in Mr. Clinton getting impeached.

This is much more stronger of a case than Benghazi and she won't be able to lie her way out of it because it has been confirmed between Mr. Gowdy AND Mr. Comey, on record now, that she did, in fact without reasonable doubt, lie about her emails, the servers, the contents, and devices used.

She willfully intended to hide or conceal evidence by lying.


This, again, is FAR different than Benghazi.

a reply to: CynConcepts

I was thinking that too. Comey was still in no way easy on Clinton. He repeatedly came down hard on her. I don't really agree on his interpretation of needing intent, but as mentioned earlier, if he went that direction, he may never have been able to expose the rest of it.

Also - notice "how" he revealed the Clinton Foundation investigation. He was not directly asked if there was an investigation. It was a question about something like - were there Clinton Foundation emails on the server - or something like that. And he replied "I can not discuss other investigations." It was a wow moment, because it was almost as if he threw it out there. Maybe he just assumed it was public knowledge, as it is, but he outright said it. Several times in different ways.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: Gryphon66

Regardless, Gowdy made a solid point about using false exculpatory statements, made to the public, to prove intent and consciousness of guilt. It was a point that Comey acknowledged and conceded. It would be difficult for Comey to ignore such evidence if Congress refers a perjury investigation.

I have little faith that anyone in government actually wants to prove criminal activity in government, but I do not believe that perjury would be impossible to prosecute -- if the DOJ was actually willing. But, no, they probably aren't.

It's not perjury if someone made a mistake.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: Aazadan

Lying is not a serious issue.

Obviously it isn't for you.
I teach my children something different.

You teach your children that politicians tell the truth?

That seems to be a disservice.

I would teach them that you are a disingenuous arse.
Go look at what I quoted on that post.


Folks, these are the kinds of people that support Hillary Clinton.

Yeah, Butch ... it's about me.

Do politicians lie, or not?

It is when you mischaracterize what I have said..... and use it to refer to my parenting skills in a bad light.

a reply to: GreatWay

Bill Clinton was acquitted by the Senate of Impeachment.

But, by all means, please support the idea of trying another Clinton for months in obvious political theatre.

The American people LOVE that.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: Gryphon66

Regardless, Gowdy made a solid point about using false exculpatory statements, made to the public, to prove intent and consciousness of guilt. It was a point that Comey acknowledged and conceded. It would be difficult for Comey to ignore such evidence if Congress refers a perjury investigation.

I have little faith that anyone in government actually wants to prove criminal activity in government, but I do not believe that perjury would be impossible to prosecute -- if the DOJ was actually willing. But, no, they probably aren't.

It's not perjury if someone made a mistake.

But if her public false statements -- which are voluminous as Gowdy pointed out -- are open to using to prove intent, then she would have to claim to have made mistake after mistake after mistake. Reasonable doubt flies out the window under the weight of all those false statements.

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: Aazadan

Lying is not a serious issue.

Obviously it isn't for you.
I teach my children something different.

You teach your children that politicians tell the truth?

That seems to be a disservice.

I would teach them that you are a disingenuous arse.
Go look at what I quoted on that post.


Folks, these are the kinds of people that support Hillary Clinton.

Yeah, Butch ... it's about me.

Do politicians lie, or not?

It is when you mischaracterize what I have said..... and use it to refer to my patenting skills in a bad light.

IF you were to tell your children that politicians do not lie, would you be doing them a disservice? Of course you would.

Politicians lie, Butcherguy. Both Clintons are politicians, so's Obama, both Bushes, the 535 members of Congress.

This is a desperate attempt at political theatre, and you know it.

I think you guys should start thinking ahead though ... Clinton is the weakest possible candidate against Trump ... if it turns out to be Sanders or Biden ... it will be a BLOODBATH.

Perhaps it's time to start thinking strategically?

This will get good - just saw on news on TV that there already announced appeals pending for others convicted for related offenses, who plan to claim the Hillary precedent.