FBI recommend no charges against Hillary!

originally posted by: slapjacks
This is nuts. I've lost all faith in America.

Same.

Why bother anymore?

I look around and all I see is a hulking pig dressed in compromise, mendacity, greed and hopelessness, with some lip-stick smeared on it by slick corporations all for the gluttonous over-consumption by tatted up, drugged out, lazy-sss American'ts.

We used to aspire to greatness in this country. Now we just settle. We used to have high expectations for our government and leadership, now we don't care as long as we can have smart phones and medicate ourselves.

Having paid attention to this from the get go, here is what can be stated:

There was never going to be a trial at all. If Clinton was not a candidate for president, do you honestly think that the republicans in congress would have spent all of that time and money on all of the investigations that stated she had done nothing wrong, or the push for an FBI investigation? No, it would have quietly died and been out of the public eye and attention in about a month.

But she is running for president and the republicans are fighting and trying to prevent that, in short causing a political witch hunt. And in a nut shell, the republicans, ruined any and all chances to have her charged or even going to trial, when Trey Gowdy tampered with the evidence that may or may not have proved this in a court of law. Tampered evidence is not a good way to get a conviction and ultimately this would have caused them no end of grief. But beyond that, do you think it would have been a public trial? No, it would have been behind closed doors, the evidence debated on, and all records sealed by the Federal Government, and no one would have known what all happened at all.

But after all of that, one cannot help but wonder what is the real reason for this entire thing? They claim she broke the law, but the State Department states that she did not, and even confirmed that the prior holders of the office did the exact same thing that she did. People claim that she should be held accountable for Bengazhi embassy attack, yet no mention of the prior administrations, where a Republican held office, of the embassy attacks that were done and the people killed.

Just wait folks..........Slick Willy still gonna screw it up for her. There's simply zero justice in America if your last name is Clinton or Bush.

originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: MrSpad
As I have been saying all along and as anybody who has been a part of the intel community and seen these things before it was pretty clear their would be no charges and at most a misdemeanor. Once you take politics out of it and have any knowledge of such things this is exactly what was expected. Although most such investigations are not so long and thorough.

In the Intel community, an infraction of this sort would result in the permanent revocation of eligibility for a position of trust and responsibility with the United States government.

P e r m a n e n t.

There's a lack of 'fair' in there somewhere.

No it would not. Temporary perhaps. A letter of reprimand maybe. A suspension maybe. Being retrained in the rules and regulations certainly.

originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: MrSpad
As I have been saying all along and as anybody who has been a part of the intel community and seen these things before it was pretty clear their would be no charges and at most a misdemeanor. Once you take politics out of it and have any knowledge of such things this is exactly what was expected. Although most such investigations are not so long and thorough.

In the Intel community, an infraction of this sort would result in the permanent revocation of eligibility for a position of trust and responsibility with the United States government.

P e r m a n e n t.

There's a lack of 'fair' in there somewhere.

80% of infractions like this are never prosecuted.

I don't think there's ever been an infraction similar to this one.

However, I agree that 'prosecutions' for compromise of classified materials are rare indeed. They're almost exclusively reserved for those events deemed espionage.

Hey, I'd have been happy if she received the same level of censure as Petraeus.

a reply to: visitedbythem

Now I know why my bubba brother has a trunk full of guns.

originally posted by: tnhiker
If anybody else forwarded and misused classified documents/information this way, they would have been prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

However, assuming she is this stupid and naive and didn't mean to cause problems, is this the person that people want in the white house? Has she ever, in her entire life, proven trustworthy of anything that does not benefit her directly? I am not saying Trump is better, as for the first time in my life I find myself unable to willingly vote for either of the major candidates (writing in Emp Palpatine I guess), but the womans deceit, arrogance, neglect, and general attitude are not what we want in this country.

Except as the director said nobody else ever has been.

FBI recommend no charges against Hillary!

Last week Bill meets with the head of the Justice Dept, this week the FBI lets Hillary off the hook.

Its not about some damn server anyway, its about all the governments complicity and or culpability in taking down the sovereign nation called Libya, and opening the same convert operations on Syria. All those private Emails were made around her time in the state department when this occurred. Benghazi was swept under the rug, so was destroying Libya.

Everyone is being steered away from that towards some 'missing' server, lol. By the media, for Mega corp and the Gubment.

You go ahead and let her go running full steam ahead, see what happens once she has the reigns to the taxpayers money.

In a system where War is business and profit is the motive.

You need a president that will follow direction from the real puppet masters.

As Willtell said....this is Hard Ball. Honor and Justice are just hollow words in a system where profit is the motive behind EVERYTHING

I'm astonished at the naivete from members I thought had some common sense....

a reply to: intrptr

It's reeeeally about the Clinton Foundation and the Clinton Global Initiative.

The only thing that remains is if, MAYBE, that hacker has the goods on the whole deal. Maybe this statement of no charges from the FBI will prompt some action on that front.

originally posted by: MrSpad

originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: MrSpad
As I have been saying all along and as anybody who has been a part of the intel community and seen these things before it was pretty clear their would be no charges and at most a misdemeanor. Once you take politics out of it and have any knowledge of such things this is exactly what was expected. Although most such investigations are not so long and thorough.

In the Intel community, an infraction of this sort would result in the permanent revocation of eligibility for a position of trust and responsibility with the United States government.

P e r m a n e n t.

There's a lack of 'fair' in there somewhere.

No it would not. Temporary perhaps. A letter of reprimand maybe. A suspension maybe. Being retrained in the rules and regulations certainly.

Rules? What rules. Rules are for the citizenry to keep them in check. The rule makers do what they want. This is a government gone rouge, completely off the tracks.

originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: DeathSlayer
As I stated previously...

America, meet your new Criminal Commander in Chief.

It isn't as though we didn't know this was coming. Just more proof of what we already knew. We have an extremely corrupt government, and it's up to the people of this country to do something about it. Which means nothing will ever be done about it.

I've been thinking... Had she been indicted, Bernie would likely be the nominee and he had the better chance of winning. I'd not thought of this before, but with Comey detailing her reckless behavior, this could hurt her more than being indicted and give a better chance to the GOP winning the presidency.

originally posted by: JetBlackStare
a reply to: intrptr

It's reeeeally about the Clinton Foundation and the Clinton Global Initiative.

The only thing that remains is if, MAYBE, that hacker has the goods on the whole deal. Maybe this statement of no charges from the FBI will prompt some action on that front.

The control of information is complete. So is the industrial disinformation complex, even here. Try bringing that information here and it will get buried under pages of ridicule and dismissal by the gate keepers.

a reply to: j.r.c.b.

Secede. That's what the Confederates did to break away from a tyrannical government in the 1860's.

originally posted by: dragonridr
I knew this would happen. The FBI couldn't beyond a reasonable doubt show intent.maybe will stop seeing this at least. It amazes me how nasty this election is.

How many times must I say , they didnt have to prove intent of anything . It was against Federal Law. Did you not hear some of Comey's opening remarks ? How it was a violation of Federal Law ?

I can't get over his characterization of her actions. There's something in that. It wasn't just a free pass. So was that just the Administration throwing her critics a bone or is there more to it? When you refer to a former Secretary of State and Presidential Nominee as "extremely careless", that's not without consequences.

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: dragonridr
I knew this would happen. The FBI couldn't beyond a reasonable doubt show intent.maybe will stop seeing this at least. It amazes me how nasty this election is.

How many times must I say , they didnt have to prove intent of anything . It was against Federal Law. Did you not hear some of Comey's opening remarks ? How it was a violation of Federal Law ?

Did you read/hear Comey's speech? Intent was key.

Read the laws and the Supreme Court ruling on matters such as this.

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: JetBlackStare
a reply to: intrptr

It's reeeeally about the Clinton Foundation and the Clinton Global Initiative.

The only thing that remains is if, MAYBE, that hacker has the goods on the whole deal. Maybe this statement of no charges from the FBI will prompt some action on that front.

The control of information is complete. So is the industrial disinformation complex, even here. Try bringing that information here and it will get buried under pages of ridicule and dismissal by the gate keepers.

It serves no purpose to point out what is obvious to us, to folks that live in a fantasy world invented by an educational system operating from a perspective of faith and trust.

They think politics has a rule book like the NFL!!

originally posted by: LSU0408
a reply to: j.r.c.b.

Secede. That's what the Confederates did to break away from a tyrannical government in the 1860's.

Yeah, and how did that work out for them?

(LOL on the tyrannical government part - the nerve of them telling fellow countrymen they couldn't enslave people against their will)

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: JetBlackStare
a reply to: intrptr

It's reeeeally about the Clinton Foundation and the Clinton Global Initiative.

The only thing that remains is if, MAYBE, that hacker has the goods on the whole deal. Maybe this statement of no charges from the FBI will prompt some action on that front.

The control of information is complete. So is the industrial disinformation complex, even here. Try bringing that information here and it will get buried under pages of ridicule and dismissal by the gate keepers.

It serves no purpose to point out what is obvious to us to folks that live in a fantasy world invented by an educational system operating from a perspective of faith and trust.

They think politics has a rule book like the NFL!!

But no instant replay...?