FBI Director will be holding a Press Conference at 11AM EST today

originally posted by: RickinVa
a reply to: Indigo5

Last time I checked, she still has to be elected to become president...hasn't happened where I come from.

Around here, we see the director of the FBI's comments as loading up Donald Trump to fire cruise missiles at Hillary Clinton during their first debate.

Oh please ... "around here" ... you think your position is the ATS Consensus?

LOL. Ooookay.

a reply to: introvert

True but ANY lawbreaking or Indictment disqualifies her from president though. Thats whats important.

a reply to: Gryphon66


No

why would I?

Around here means around where I am physically located, not in a bunch of pixels on a screen.....

Around here.

a reply to: RickinVa

Who said anything about the president?

Why deflect so much?

It wasn't deflection. The SD can drop her clearance all they wish. The president doesn't need one.

What is Hillarys answer during the debate when Trump asks her about the director of the FBI saying she was extemely careless?

There is plenty of mud to be slung at both candidates. Perhaps she can talk about the rape charges. Or perhaps defrauding people out of their money for Trump University.

Trump isn't clean either.

Are you such a Hillary fan that you can not even admit that what the director of the FBI said about a potential presidential candidate is devastating to their campaign?

It's not devastating.

Are you so anti-Hillary, and unaware of the all the material myself and others have shown you, that you can't see how this is a nonissue?

It's over Rick. Indictment-recommendation day never came and now you have all that popcorn you saved-up to snack on while you whine and cry.

Tick tock....stop wasting our time.

originally posted by: RickinVa
a reply to: Gryphon66


No

why would I?

Around here means around where I am physically located, not in a bunch of pixels on a screen.....

Around here.

Awesome. Beg pardon.

You get one sanity point back.

Good grief....

The FBI director basically just did a total character assassination on some one who aspires to be the President.

The brain dead and Hillary supporters are desperately trying to portray this as something that it is not... an exoneration of their beloved Hillary.

Get over it already and just admit that this FBI report is and will continue to be a major obstacle for her to overcome, if that is even possible.

Trump should be blanketing the airwaves non-stop with out takes from Comeys briefing, I know I would be if I was him...

originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: introvert

True but ANY lawbreaking or Indictment disqualifies her from president though. Thats whats important.

Hows that? Where does it state that one cannot become president, even if they broke a law or were indicted?

originally posted by: RickinVa
a reply to: introvert

What is Hillarys answer during the debate when Trump asks her about the director of the FBI saying she was extemely careless?

That she has already repeatedly acknowledged the mistake publicly and the FBI concluded after an exhaustive investigation that it did not warrant any sanctions or actions...and I would suggest that a man who has ...for example...repeatedly and unapologetically tweeted material from neo-nazi and white supremacists without explanation, or received multiple complaints from the FEC for soliciting campaign donations from foreign officials in email campaigns...is far from qualified in evaluating what is "careless" in digital communications.

a reply to: Indigo5

all trump has to do is cite the law and that th eFBI director was wrong because the law does not mention INTENT. Which the FBI verified she did violate that statute although not knowingly. Ignorance is no excuse.

originally posted by: RickinVa
Good grief....

The FBI director basically just did a total character assassination on some one who aspires to be the President.

Nothing personal, but after the past 6 months of you shouting down anyone who even suggested that there would not be an indictment, I find your assessment not credible.

Trump can and will try to make this a significant issue, but it will only resonate with the minority of the Public that already supports him.

Put another way...Comey's press conference failed to match the mountain of BS the public was fed by the far-right, so most of the undecided voters that were unsure how bad the email issue was now realize that most of what the right-wing press was selling was BS.

Maybe if the right-wing press had undersold their BS campaign around the email issue and stuck to facts, then Comey's criticisms might be heard with impact, but compared to the meme of "She's going to jail!" crowd like your self? Most people in the middle now realize the degree to which the right-wing was BSing.

a reply to: Indigo5

Ok...

So she just says "So sowwy" and that is the end of it?


Do not think so for one single minute... this party is just getting started.... Comey appears before Congress soon... he gets to release a little more detail.

So a Secretary of State who was extremely careless with classified information and allowed that information to be stored in illegal places is a good candidate for President?

Sure she is.

originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: Indigo5

all trump has to do is cite the law and that th eFBI director was wrong because the law does not mention INTENT. Which the FBI verified she did violate that statute although not knowingly. Ignorance is no excuse.

I suspect that might be too complex an argument for Donald trump to articulate. putting aside the veracity of the argument which is obviously questionable.

a reply to: Indigo5

What mountain of BS?

Basically everything that was leaked over the last year turned out to be confirmed.

Score one for anonymous sources for the win!!


"Nothing personal, but after the past 6 months of you shouting down anyone who even suggested that there would not be an indictment."

I am glad you were able to assess I was "shouting down people". I gave my point of view same as you gave hers.

Now we see a report from the FBI director that basically says Hillary is a totally inept at management skills, she broke the laws and you think this is just going to disappear? puh lease.

originally posted by: RickinVa
a reply to: Indigo5

What mountain of BS?

Good on ya Rick...Keep hope alive!

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: Indigo5

all trump has to do is cite the law and that th eFBI director was wrong because the law does not mention INTENT. Which the FBI verified she did violate that statute although not knowingly. Ignorance is no excuse.

I suspect that might be too complex an argument for Donald trump to articulate. putting aside the veracity of the argument which is obviously questionable.

He's already doing a good job of using this - by calling Clinton incompetent. It's the attack line she used on him and now it's blown up in her face. It's smart to throw that back at her now we have the FBI statement. He just needs to stick to that. He has the outcome of an investigation to support his claim that she does not know what she is doing and she has no defence.

a reply to: UKTruth

He has the outcome of an investigation to support his claim that she does not know what she is doing and she has no defence.

In that same line of thinking, she could point to his bankruptcies to show that he has no idea what he is doing.

What you propose is nothing new. It would not be clever on Trump's part and only precipitates a circular argument in which neither side can take an advantage over the other.

originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: [post=20951048]Indigo5


He's already doing a good job of using this - by calling Clinton incompetent. It's the attack line she used on him and now it's blown up in her face. It's smart to throw that back at her now we have the FBI statement. He just needs to stick to that. He has the outcome of an investigation to support his claim that she does not know what she is doing and she has no defence.

I get why you guys hope this will be somehow impactful...but this will not flip any voters..It doesn't have the teeth the right wing hopes it does.

The public is very much exhausted with the issue...and the FBIs conclusion gives the last hold-outs that were trying to give damn an excuse to stop paying any attention. That just leaves Trumpites...

The public is more enrapt with Trump's daily SNAFU's...the past few days have him (1) Tweeting an infographic from a Neo-Nazi site with the Star of David that offended Jews and (2) Yesterday he praised Saddam Hussein for executing people without trials...It is daily with Trump...he is his own worst enemy.

Here is a hint that no one cares about the email scandal anymore...
The day after the report ...Politico notes this...
GOP foreign policy elites flock to Clinton
www.politico.com...

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: CynConcepts

His briefing sounded goofy to me. Like the decision to not seek indictment was reached sometime back. Why brief in detail saying she violated the law only to say we wont recommend charges?

Perhaps to see just how much corruption we will put up with. It's a safe bet that we will just keep putting up with it, and venting on each other in places like this, because we need to feel like we are doing something about it.

I predict that B%TCH will be president. Armageddon is right around the corner.

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: [post=20951048]Indigo5


He's already doing a good job of using this - by calling Clinton incompetent. It's the attack line she used on him and now it's blown up in her face. It's smart to throw that back at her now we have the FBI statement. He just needs to stick to that. He has the outcome of an investigation to support his claim that she does not know what she is doing and she has no defence.

I get why you guys hope this will be somehow impactful...but this will not flip any voters..It doesn't have the teeth the right wing hopes it does.

The public is very much exhausted with the issue...and the FBIs conclusion gives the last hold-outs that were trying to give damn an excuse to stop paying any attention. That just leaves Trumpites...

The public is more enrapt with Trump's daily SNAFU's...the past few days have him (1) Tweeting an infographic from a Neo-Nazi site with the Star of David that offended Jews and (2) Yesterday he praised Saddam Hussein for executing people without trials...It is daily with Trump...he is his own worst enemy.

Here is a hint that no one cares about the email scandal anymore...
The day after the report ...Politico notes this...
GOP foreign policy elites flock to Clinton
www.politico.com...

I agree in the sense that the email scandal is concluding, but the result is conclusive proof that Hillary is incompetent. In the debates it will be funny if she tries to call Trump unqualified again. He'll rip her to shreds. She's given him the perfect retort to one of her major attack lines.

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: UKTruth

He has the outcome of an investigation to support his claim that she does not know what she is doing and she has no defence.

In that same line of thinking, she could point to his bankruptcies to show that he has no idea what he is doing.

What you propose is nothing new. It would not be clever on Trump's part and only precipitates a circular argument in which neither side can take an advantage over the other.

Trumps still rich right? SO apparently he does know what hes doing even with bankruptcies.