Deaf/Blind/Paralyzed teen, Brain Tumour treated - slammed to the ground by TSA - Blood everywhere

originally posted by: Annee
Then why bring it up?

Because, as it was repeatedly drilled into me in all my organizational/development classes . . .

The attitudes and values off the top leadership has a way of filtering down to the lowest ranks--e.g. TSA.

And I have long hypothesized that THAT is ONE of the reasons for such hideous behavior on the part of the TSA folks on the front lines.

a reply to: ManFromEurope

I hope you're not expecting sympathy and violins from me.

Your scroll button probably works.

I don't find that such whines contribute anything constructive to a thread.

My communication idiosyncrasies have evolved over 30 years on the net. I make no apologies for them. They tend to achieve what I ask of them.

originally posted by: Annee
QUESTION

Did the parents file a disabled passenger form of some kind?

It's been awhile, but my mom worked for an airlines. She was also disabled.

She always made sure that was on her ticket.

After 17 years of doing it, would you suddenly think "Oh my things might now be occupied territory, I better ensure the gestapo are aware!"

?

originally posted by: BO XIAN
a reply to: ManFromEurope

I hope you're not expecting sympathy and violins from me.

Your scroll button probably works.

I don't find that such whines contribute anything constructive to a thread.

My communication idiosyncrasies have evolved over 30 years on the net. I make no apologies for them. They tend to achieve what I ask of them.

Achieve what--suckering people into believing nonsense? It is just like flashing click-bait advertisements.

My scrolling button works too, but it is rather annoying when there is an entire page to simply skip after seeing you are posting.

a reply to: WeowWix

My heart bleeds purple peanut butter over your distress.

I hope you can still sleep nights.

What a sham . . .

You wail about my style because you disagree with my perspectives.

Cute.

How congruent and full of mature integrity of thought and action.

Typical of certain mindsets and perspectives.

Another terrorist taken down!

USA USA USA!

/SARC

Why is the TSA still in existence? Ya'll folks who still fly....why subject yourselves to the humiliation that is a TSA screening?

Ill save you guys all my dark thoughts here....but they are very dark. Poor kid.

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan
I saw a vid once of the tsa trying to search a guy for bit coins lol even though he sold lappelles for a living. The tsa thought he had bitcoins in excess of $10,000 without thinking the bitcoin isn't a physical currency. Idiots.

a reply to: boncho

Tragic story and I feel for the girl and her parents, but your rant about firearms is ignorant.

Flying on a plane is not a constitutionally protected right. I refuse to fly because of their burdensome rules and regulations.

Saying we've lost all our rights is silly hyperbole.

Again, it's a sad story, but it has nothing to do with losing any constitutionally protected rights.

a reply to: KawRider9

i think the problem is that flying is constitutionally protected as i have a right to travel and freedom of movement. If i am unable to go about my day with a grope and rope then I cannot see how my rights are not being violated. Mostly because I am not sure what in our constitution gives the government the right to do this to me before boarding a private transportation operation.

I get boncho's use of the 2A argument here. Why do we get fired up over the imaginary boogeyman coming for our guns when we have the TSA, NSA. etc. etc?

We talk using the words of our fathers, describing the ideals our fathers gave us. But we don't know what those words mean, an we absolutely fail to take any action based on those words.

We gave up. We were so scared/pissed/whatever that we gave up and allowed our government to become this unrecognizable beast that is smothering us. And instead of doing something, we bicker over gun control, gay cakes, and how to use the bathroom. No, what Boncho says is not ignorant in the least.

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Damn, we are usually in agreement on most issues. Can't believe you're taking this stance.

Airline services are a private business, if you want to use their services, you have to play by their rules.

I don't agree with their policies, so I refuse to do business with them.

You're not being denied your right to travel freely, you're being forced to comply with the rules of the mode of transportation you are opting for. You don't get to pick their rules.

I'm a smoker, I can't smoke in rental cars, so I refuse to use their services. I don't like the rules of airlines, so I opt not to use their services.

Again, this story is tragic and we hear about this far to often. And I'm not defending what the TSA pricks did here, I'm just saying the OP is wrong in saying we've lost our rights. I travel all over this Country unimpeded. I just don't get the luxury of having a fast mode of transportation. None of my constitutionally protected rights have been infringed.

a reply to: BO XIAN

Haven't you ever dealt with a person that goes "by the book" no exception no thought?

I hate to say this but I'll bet my bottom dollar they followed protocol to the T. This is what our TSA is set up to do, do as we say when we say or you will be on the floor, tased, beat and jailed (and fined).

Ahhhh, remember when you could walk with your family and send them off to a trip without being felt up, accused and treated like you are going to have the Miranda rights read to you and cuffed? All gone we are screwed.

a reply to: KawRider9

The constitution is to limit the governments intrusion on rights, not a list of rights I am granted.

Freedom of movement, look it up.

originally posted by: ManFromEurope
a reply to: BO XIAN

So... bold fonts and caps-lock aren't enough? Now your postings have to come in colors, too?
How do I block/ignore users?

Wow, a lot of people agree with you. Hehehe.

Terrible that this happened to this poor kid,

I think The Fury one makes an important point, Airline's are private business's that have been forced to use TSA for security. I read that it is possible to petition the the Federal Government to use private security, but that it takes years and is rarely granted. The airline's don't want the TSA either, they harass their customer's and I'm sure they have to field complaints all the time. I wonder who pays for the lawsuits, probably taxpayers.

I think the TSA has been put in place to ultimately impede our right to travel freely in a SHTF scenario and to be used as yet another "security" force against the public.

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: BO XIAN

Haven't you ever dealt with a person that goes "by the book" no exception no thought?

I hate to say this but I'll bet my bottom dollar they followed protocol to the T. This is what our TSA is set up to do, do as we say when we say or you will be on the floor, tased, beat and jailed (and fined).

Ahhhh, remember when you could walk with your family and send them off to a trip without being felt up, accused and treated like you are going to have the Miranda rights read to you and cuffed? All gone we are screwed.

AGREED.

I think a lot of TSA folks revert to BY THE BOOK when the least bit feeling threatened or challenged or even simply embarrassed or confused about how to handle a particular case.

It seems like it is their default position because they don't have the maturity and/or clarity of thought (or IQ?) to come up with a viable alternative to idiotic ruthless by the book absurdities.

I hope lots of such TSA staff learn a lot from this case. But I wouldn't hold my breath--partly for the reason you assert.

a reply to: odzeandennz

What a tragedy. What a crying shame.

In a medium where there's

--no voice tones--no rising voice tones; changing voice tones; dropped tones; . . .
--no slowing or speeding of spoken cadence
--no non-verbal eye expressions
--no non-verbal facial expressions
--no gestures

Some people seem to feel outrage or even threatened by creative use of additional cues for meaning and emphasis that color, bold, caps etc. provide.

Wellllllllll tough tacos.

Please scroll on by.

Or not. Y'all are welcome to hyperventilate, froth at the mouth or otherwise throw a fit over such an inconsequential thing.

Y'all make it sound like I'm holding a gun to your heads FORCING you to read my threads and style . . . even torturing you by such.

LOLOL.

Sorry your scroll buttons seem to be broken.

I never pretended to be one size fits all.

I only write for those interested in reading what I write.

I'm not writing for those who have an obsession with ranting and raging against me as a kind of dysfunctional reflex.

a reply to: MountainLaurel

You know I just looked up whether passengers on private planes go through any kind of Security, and apparently in the USA they don't. It does sound like the TSA has proposed they start doing that though, here's an article about it.

abcnews.go.com...

originally posted by: savemebarry

originally posted by: Annee
QUESTION

Did the parents file a disabled passenger form of some kind?

It's been awhile, but my mom worked for an airlines. She was also disabled.

She always made sure that was on her ticket.

After 17 years of doing it, would you suddenly think "Oh my things might now be occupied territory, I better ensure the gestapo are aware!"

?

Instead you can get the results that she did.

I grew up on airplanes. My mom worked for one of the major ones. We flew a lot.

My mom was also disabled. Even back then she made sure she was listed as disabled flying with 3 minor children.

PLAN for yourself and your Special Needs. Do not expect others to accommodate you "just because".

a reply to: Annee

Geez Annee your really gonna play the "Devil's Advocate" on something this insane ?! Yeah, it's the disabled passengers fault for getting beat up because she didn't call ahead of time, seriously ????